The Craziness of School Quarantine

 

School here in LA County has reopened after the holiday break, and all talk is testing and quarantines.  The local Facebook parents group is full of parents expressing angst about the threat of their kids getting exposed to a sick kid and having to deal with the consequences and trying to find testing sites and in-home tests.

Interestingly, very little of the concern seems to be over the risk of the illness to their kids, but the risk and consequences of exposure. Parents are upset that their kids are telling them of classmates who are coming to school sick or said they tested positive but came to school anyway.  (My son’s principal says that’s just random anecdotal stuff, and not to give it too much credit.) They’re upset that their healthy kids have been exposed and now need to find a way to get tested to remain in school. Where are test sites with the shortest lines? Where can home tests be found?

They’re upset that their kids are no longer sick, but keep testing positive and can’t return to school. They’re upset that kids who have to go to independent study because they’re in quarantine are just getting homework assignments, and no lessons (these are high school kids who are concerned about grades). I talked to one parent today who was happy her kids got COVID over the holiday, because now they get a 90-day pass to any sort of quarantine or testing if they’re exposed and do not get sick!

I received notification last night that my son was identified as a close contact to someone who tested positive at school, and therefore had to quarantine because it’s been more than six months since his last vaccine. There’s a modified quarantine option that allows him to remain in school if he tests negative on Day 1 and Day 5 after exposure.  Well, he was notified on Day 3, so to follow the letter of the law, he needed to get tested today (Day 4) and tomorrow (Day 5) to remain in school. Because of the testing schedules on campus, he was allowed to go to school in the morning, and get tested after lunch, so technically, he spent Day 4 on campus without a negative test. He dutifully hustled in line immediately after his last class, waited 45 minutes, and got his test (negative, fortunately).

Unfortunately, not all the students who need to get tested will be so fortunate. Tests are limited and demand is high, so those who arrive later in the day may find themselves shut out and having to wait till tomorrow to get tested. Technically, my son needs to get tested again tomorrow to end his “modified quarantine,”  so he would be competing with those same students again to get an elusive test. That’s two tests, two days in a row, to follow a modified quarantine order.

Maybe the biggest risk of omicron is not the illness but the preventions – maybe we shouldn’t be forcing healthy kids to quarantine, or to get tested to prove they’re not sick if they sit next to someone for 15 minutes one day in class, both while wearing masks. Maybe we shouldn’t treat someone who completed their initial vaccinations more than six months ago the same as someone who has not been vaccinated at all. Heck, if vaccinations don’t prevent transmission, why does vaccination status even matter when it comes to quarantine rules, especially for school-aged children whose risk of serious illness is quite low?

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  1. Vince Guerra Member
    Vince Guerra
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    None of this is about a virus, or the health or the education of your child. All of it is about the money the school district will receive for playing the Covid game.

    AJ DEPRIEST UNCOVERS THE ENORMOUS COVID BRIBES TO ALL EDUCATION AND HOSPITALS FROM THE US GOVERNMENT

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/WVlMdnQg2Yzw/

    Take your kid out of that school as fast as you can.

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  2. Nohaaj Coolidge
    Nohaaj
    @Nohaaj

    The higher the level of education the less likely they are to use common sense.  Here In Pittsburgh, Pitt has mandated that anyone who is vaccinated can move into the dorms for Spring semester if they get a negative covid test 48 hours prior.  If you are unvaccinated, you have to test 48 hours before and every 7 days thereafter.  The vaxxed kids have no such requirement. Because, dontchaknow, vaxxes prevent young kids from ever getting the vid. No need to test if you are vaxxed. 

    But college kids being kids, they will party, and congregate with locals and other college kids in the the myriad bars in the so’side.  A bar every forty feet. The vaccinated don’t have to test again unless they show symptoms.   I presume under voluntary reporting – you think these kids will self report unless they have an organic chem exam that morning that they are nervous about. No way! That’s why they keep a handy dandy positive swab handy from last semester. 

    Clown theater. Don’t look too closely or you might notice Doctors of Education that make the rules are really stupid.

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  3. Annefy Member
    Annefy
    @Annefy

    My daughter and her family (three daughters) recently relocated to TX. The two school-aged girls attend Catholic school. This was our text exchange a week ago ;

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  4. OkieSailor Member
    OkieSailor
    @OkieSailor

    After everyone has had Covid could we return to our lives, please? Or do we have to wait until everyone has had it three times? Or could we, the peasants, just revolt against the madness?

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  5. Full Size Tabby Member
    Full Size Tabby
    @FullSizeTabby

    It’s not just schools (although schools are the most insane because of how low are the risks to kids presented by Covid). Workplaces too have rules that kick in when someone has had “close contact” with someone who “tests positive” – whether or not anyone actually gets sick. Then by extending the chain of “close contacts,” more families have their lives disrupted. My son-in-law was supposed to get tested because his employer told him he had been in “close contact” with someone who “tested positive,” notwithstanding that he felt fine. Had he nonetheless “tested positive,” then that finding would have cascaded to his children’s (our grandchildren) pre-school, creating the possibility under the preschool quarantine rules in his state that the two classes in which his children are would both be cancelled and all the children sent home, severely disrupting about ten families, even though no one in the chain of “close contact” was actually sick. 

    Unfortunately, the mentality of hiding in fear has so infected the population that people are stopping their lives every time they hear of someone with whom they had any contact at all “tests positive.” The cascading disruptions create stress on everyone connected (and the stress of constant uncertainty creates its own health issues).

    One person “tested positive” in a game-playing social circle that overlaps with a breakfast club social circle in which I participate. As a consequence none of the game-players came to the breakfast club yesterday (even though all of them have been vaccinated and many have had Covid), and I ended up having breakfast by myself. But that gave me a chance to visit with our regular waitress, who told me that one of the restaurant’s staffing issues is that employees don’t come to work because someone they know “tested positive” but the employee can’t find a test, so they’ll stay home “just in case,” creating problems for the staff (and indirectly the customers) of the restaurant.  

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  6. Vince Guerra Member
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):
    Workplaces too have rules that kick in when someone has had “close contact” with someone who “tests positive” – whether or not anyone actually gets sick. Then by extending the chain of “close contacts,” more families have their lives disrupted.

    Which is why nobody should ever get tested again. Just stop participating in the madness people. 

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  7. DWard Coolidge
    DWard
    @DWard

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    It’s not just schools (although schools are the most insane because of how low are the risks to kids presented by Covid). Workplaces too have rules that kick in when someone has had “close contact” with someone who “tests positive” – whether or not anyone actually gets sick. Then by extending the chain of “close contacts,” more families have their lives disrupted. My son-in-law was supposed to get tested because his employer told him he had been in “close contact” with someone who “tested positive,” notwithstanding that he felt fine. Had he nonetheless “tested positive,” then that finding would have cascaded to his children’s (our grandchildren) pre-school, creating the possibility under the preschool quarantine rules in his state that the two classes in which his children are would both be cancelled and all the children sent home, severely disrupting about ten families, even though no one in the chain of “close contact” was actually sick.

    Unfortunately, the mentality of hiding in fear has so infected the population that people are stopping their lives every time they hear of someone with whom they had any contact at all “tests positive.” The cascading disruptions create stress on everyone connected (and the stress of constant uncertainty creates its own health issues).

    One person “tested positive” in a game-playing social circle that overlaps with a breakfast club social circle in which I participate. As a consequence none of the game-players came to the breakfast club yesterday (even though all of them have been vaccinated and many have had Covid), and I ended up having breakfast by myself. But that gave me a chance to visit with our regular waitress, who told me that one of the restaurant’s staffing issues is that employees don’t come to work because someone they know “tested positive” but the employee can’t find a test, so they’ll stay home “just in case,” creating problems for the staff (and indirectly the customers) of the restaurant.

    That’s a part of the problem I’m seeing here – students are unable to find tests, so they have to stay home.  Plus, the definition of close contact seems so restrictive that many people are getting caught up in the exposure net that never catch it. My son waited in line yesterday with a classmate who was in the same boat he was, and I can’t help but wonder how many healthy students were being tested to stay in school.

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  8. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    OkieSailor (View Comment):

    After everyone has had Covid could we return to our lives, please? Or do we have to wait until everyone has had it three times? Or could we, the peasants, just revolt against the madness?

    Spring 2020, both Bill Gates and Bill Clinton talked up how the COV phenomena would lead to the public “having the right to be appraised of their neighbors’ health” so that such things as each and every citizen’s health status would be surveilled – but only in a completely friendly and upbeat manner. (I think Gates optimistically felt that the entire public would demand it.)

    Bill Gates set the stage over one weekend. Then Clinton would do an interview or two a short time later. Clinton kept pointing out how this absolute  need to keep on top of every citizens’ health status was the exact sort of thing the Clinton Global Health Initiative was prepared to do. And he proudly boasted that at no time prior had such a necessary and ambitious health plan ever come about.

    Both these men had geared their foundation monies to bring about exactly what we are experiencing right now. In the final pages of RFK Jr’s book “The Real Anthony Fauci” it is revealed that by 2019, the Bill and Melinda Gates had spun part of itself into a shell foundation that was concerned with media manipulation and surveillance. That shell foundation then partnered with Homeland Security to determine exactly how much money to fund to whom and to where in terms of ensuring:

    1: that the media would promote the needed official COV narrative

    2: that social media would be willing to censor any of those of its consumers who become major influencers and who wrote posts that would deviate from the Official COV narrative

     

    This is why this entire mess  won’t die out soon. It is a game funded by those who have the deepest pockets. Their investments in companies like Pfizer and Moderna mean their stock portfolios are profiting exponentially. Which means they can continue to expand the funding to see to it that health surveillance becomes the main activity of everyone on the planet.

    The fact that 400,000 COV test kits were obtained for release in San Diego County shows us that we in Calif are just weeks from the vaccine passports and contact testing  here in Calif. Soon, to  look out your window, you better have first picked up your cell phone to text Big Brother that you are up to date with your vaccines, that you are not running a fever, and that you are totally willing to comply with further requirements.

    All this while the people forcing the laws to press on our necks are off in Florida having the time of their lives.

     

     

     

     

     

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  9. Vince Guerra Member
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    The fact that 400,000 COV test kits were obtained for release in San Diego County shows us that we in Calif are just weeks from the vaccine passports and contact testing  here in Calif. Soon, to  look out your window, you better have first picked up your cell phone to text Big Brother that you are up to date with your vaccines, that you are not running a fever, and that you are totally willing to comply with further requirements.

    All this while the people forcing the laws to press on our necks are off in Florida having the time of their lives.

     

    Well, if you’re going to live in California…

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  10. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    DWard: Maybe the biggest risk of omicron is not the illness but the preventions – maybe we shouldn’t be forcing healthy kids to quarantine, or to get tested to prove they’re not sick if they sit next to someone for 15 minutes one day in class, both while wearing masks. 

    MAYBE???

    Fify.

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  11. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    It is like we are playing a child’s game of tag-you’re-it. 

    Or Arcade Whack-a-Mole. 

    Stop Tagging.

    Stop Whacking.

    This madness must end. 

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  12. Full Size Tabby Member
    Full Size Tabby
    @FullSizeTabby

    An elementary school teacher friend got a note yesterday from the school administration that said two teachers had “tested positive for Covid.” The administration said privacy rules prevented them from revealing the identities of the teachers who “tested positive,” but then said the purpose of the note was to advise anyone who may have had “contact” with the (unidentified) teachers to “take precautions.” ?!? My teacher friend was telling me this because she recognized how idiotic that note was. Though she did acknowledge the other teachers could probably deduce who “tested positive” by identifying which teachers were not at school today but had been on Monday or Tuesday. 

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  13. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Essentially, the ruling classes are forcing everyone to prove they’re not sick. Everyone is seen as guilty until proven innocent. Everyone shall be viewed as leprous. Everyone shall be seen as a disease. That’s what all this testing nonsense is for. You have to prove you are worthy to operate fully in society. 

    We need to push back as hard against mandated testing as we do against mandated vaccines and mandated masks.

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  14. Terry Mott Member
    Terry Mott
    @TerryMott

    We’ve become the Neurotic States of America.

    Where’s the Patriarchy when we need it?

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  15. Doctor Robert Member
    Doctor Robert
    @DoctorRobert

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    The higher the level of education the less likely they are to use common sense. Here In Pittsburgh, Pitt has mandated that anyone who is vaccinated can move into the dorms for Spring semester if they get a negative covid test 48 hours prior. If you are unvaccinated, you have to test 48 hours before and every 7 days thereafter. The vaxxed kids have no such requirement. Because, dontchaknow, vaxxes prevent young kids from ever getting the vid. No need to test if you are vaxxed.

    But college kids being kids, they will party, and congregate with locals and other college kids in the the myriad bars in the so’side. A bar every forty feet. The vaccinated don’t have to test again unless they show symptoms. I presume under voluntary reporting – you think these kids will self report unless they have an organic chem exam that morning that they are nervous about. No way! That’s why they keep a handy dandy positive swab handy from last semester.

    Clown theater. Don’t look too closely or you might notice Doctors of Education that make the rules are really stupid.

    Can you believe this?  Someone playing a wind instrument puts on a mask with the mouth cut out?  I play in two groups and the majority of wind players in both wear these friggin’ masks. What idiots.

    Both groups also require wearing masks while exiting, entering and taking a break.  One other player and I refuse to obey.  We don’t say anything, we just don’t wear them (same strategy I use in grocery stores).  No one has said a word to me about it.

    Insane.  Clown theater would be a step up.

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  16. Percival Thatcher
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    @Percival

    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    We’ve become the Neurotic States of America.

    Where’s the Patriarchy when we need it?

    Agreed. Some folks need spanked.

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  17. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    The higher the level of education the less likely they are to use common sense. Here In Pittsburgh, Pitt has mandated that anyone who is vaccinated can move into the dorms for Spring semester if they get a negative covid test 48 hours prior. If you are unvaccinated, you have to test 48 hours before and every 7 days thereafter. The vaxxed kids have no such requirement. Because, dontchaknow, vaxxes prevent young kids from ever getting the vid. No need to test if you are vaxxed.

    But college kids being kids, they will party, and congregate with locals and other college kids in the the myriad bars in the so’side. A bar every forty feet. The vaccinated don’t have to test again unless they show symptoms. I presume under voluntary reporting – you think these kids will self report unless they have an organic chem exam that morning that they are nervous about. No way! That’s why they keep a handy dandy positive swab handy from last semester.

    Clown theater. Don’t look too closely or you might notice Doctors of Education that make the rules are really stupid.

    Can you believe this? Someone playing a wind instrument puts on a mask with the mouth cut out? I play in two groups and the majority of wind players in both wear these friggin’ masks. What idiots.

    Both groups also require wearing masks while exiting, entering and taking a break. One other player and I refuse to obey. We don’t say anything, we just don’t wear them (same strategy I use in grocery stores). No one has said a word to me about it.

    Insane. Clown theater would be a step up.

    I quit symphony over mask requirement. Sorry, not sorry. 

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  18. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    The fact that 400,000 COV test kits were obtained for release in San Diego County shows us that we in Calif are just weeks from the vaccine passports and contact testing here in Calif. Soon, to look out your window, you better have first picked up your cell phone to text Big Brother that you are up to date with your vaccines, that you are not running a fever, and that you are totally willing to comply with further requirements.

    All this while the people forcing the laws to press on our necks are off in Florida having the time of their lives.

     

    Well, if you’re going to live in California…

    Point taken. But there are now not many places to go to.

    So many people have fled NY, Illinois, Calif etc that for my household to do it now means living in the van we arrive in. (Hmm, a van down by the river.)

    People in many pleasant cheap Republican areas have called to tell us  that the influx in their quaint, non-exciting but Dem free region has pushed rents up to the $ 1600 a month  rate for even a 2 bedroom apartment. Over just the past 9 months!

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