Quote of the Day: The Holiday Season

 

“In the old days, it was not called the Holiday Season; the Christians called it ‘Christmas’ and went to church; the Jews called it ‘Hanukkah’ and went to synagogue; the atheists went to parties and drank. People passing each other on the street would say ‘Merry Christmas!’ or ‘Happy Hanukkah!’ or (to the atheists) ‘Look out for the wall!'” – Dave Barry

I am not sure how I improve on this Dave Barry quote. Only a fool would try. So I will leave you with Merry Christmas. Feel free to add the holiday greeting of your faith in the comments.

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  1. Skyler Coolidge
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    The first amendment, as we see everyday now, is only s good as the people allow. That is, it constrains the government, but if the people don’t embrace free speech, then it hardly helps. This is also true of its constraint of religious freedom. If the people don’t embrace religious freedom, then we will end up with a defacto theocracy as so many conservatives seem to prefer.

    By all means you should worship and believe whatever you wish, and if you are so inclined you should try to convert others. But for religious freedom to work you must also tolerate others’ beliefs.

    “Tolerance” means allow someone to believe what they want.

    It doesn’t mean someone has to patronize their stores.

     

    Like I said, freedom doesn’t work if the people don’t practice it. 

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  2. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Merry Christmas!

    Just say the word!

    From your article:

    A gentle note to retailers: I will not be spending my Christmas dollars at stores that do not mention Christmas, so…be brave, join us in Christmas joy.

    That is called bigotry.

    What is called bigotry?

    Because you think only your religion should be observed and you apparently have so much contempt for other religions or beliefs that you wouldn’t even do business with their adherents. I know Jews, atheists, Hindus, etc., who are very nice, honest people, yet you won’t have anything to do with them. I find that to be reprehensible.

    You win the long-jump to conclusions contest.

    Her words were very clear. If a Hindu makes an advertisement and says happy holidays, she won’t do business with him. How am I wrong?

    For starters by saying this: “I know Jews, atheists, Hindus, etc., who are very nice, honest people, yet you won’t have anything to do with them.” That’s a serious accusation, and you didn’t provide any evidence for it.

     

    You seem to have a problem reading what she wrote.

    You seem to have a problem, with calling a fellow member of Ricohet racist.

    You seem to not know what racist means.

    I’m not the one misunderstanding. 

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  3. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Skyler (View Comment):

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    Skyler (View Comment):

    The first amendment, as we see everyday now, is only s good as the people allow. That is, it constrains the government, but if the people don’t embrace free speech, then it hardly helps. This is also true of its constraint of religious freedom. If the people don’t embrace religious freedom, then we will end up with a defacto theocracy as so many conservatives seem to prefer.

    By all means you should worship and believe whatever you wish, and if you are so inclined you should try to convert others. But for religious freedom to work you must also tolerate others’ beliefs.

    “Tolerance” means allow someone to believe what they want.

    It doesn’t mean someone has to patronize their stores.

     

    Like I said, freedom doesn’t work if the people don’t practice it.

    But the freedom to not patronize some establishments is a bridge too far for you.

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  4. Miffed White Male Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

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    Skyler (View Comment):

    The first amendment, as we see everyday now, is only s good as the people allow. That is, it constrains the government, but if the people don’t embrace free speech, then it hardly helps. This is also true of its constraint of religious freedom. If the people don’t embrace religious freedom, then we will end up with a defacto theocracy as so many conservatives seem to prefer.

    By all means you should worship and believe whatever you wish, and if you are so inclined you should try to convert others. But for religious freedom to work you must also tolerate others’ beliefs.

    “Tolerance” means allow someone to believe what they want.

    It doesn’t mean someone has to patronize their stores.

     

    Like I said, freedom doesn’t work if the people don’t practice it.

    Freedom means I’m required to shop at a store even if I don’t want to (for whatever my reasons might be)?

    This must be some strange new use of the word “freedom” I wasn’t previously familiar with.

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  5. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

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    Skyler (View Comment):

    The first amendment, as we see everyday now, is only s good as the people allow. That is, it constrains the government, but if the people don’t embrace free speech, then it hardly helps. This is also true of its constraint of religious freedom. If the people don’t embrace religious freedom, then we will end up with a defacto theocracy as so many conservatives seem to prefer.

    By all means you should worship and believe whatever you wish, and if you are so inclined you should try to convert others. But for religious freedom to work you must also tolerate others’ beliefs.

    “Tolerance” means allow someone to believe what they want.

    It doesn’t mean someone has to patronize their stores.

     

    Like I said, freedom doesn’t work if the people don’t practice it.

    Freedom means I’m required to shop at a store even if I don’t want to (for whatever my reasons might be)?

    This must be some strange new use of the word “freedom” I wasn’t previously familiar with.

    Or you are raaaaaaaaaaacsit. 

     

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  6. Skyler Coolidge
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    This must be some strange new use of the word “freedom” I wasn’t previously familiar with.

    Yeah, you can have freedom to be a religious bigot every day of the year.  Go for it.  

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Skyler (View Comment):

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    This must be some strange new use of the word “freedom” I wasn’t previously familiar with.

    Yeah, you can have freedom to be a religious bigot every day of the year. Go for it.

    I thought you weren’t calling people nzmes? 🤔 

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  8. Skyler Coolidge
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    This must be some strange new use of the word “freedom” I wasn’t previously familiar with.

    Yeah, you can have freedom to be a religious bigot every day of the year. Go for it.

    I thought you weren’t calling people nzmes? 🤔

    Did I call someone a name?  I said everyone has the right to be a bigot.  I’m certainly hoping no one here despises liberty so much.

    That is, I said if you choose to pick your nose, then you would be a nose picker, but by my warning you what it entails, I would expect you to therefore not pick your nose.

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  9. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Skyler (View Comment):

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    This must be some strange new use of the word “freedom” I wasn’t previously familiar with.

    Yeah, you can have freedom to be a religious bigot every day of the year. Go for it.

    I thought you weren’t calling people nzmes? 🤔

    Did I call someone a name? I said everyone has the right to be a bigot. I’m certainly hoping no one here despises liberty so much.

    That is, I said if you choose to pick your nose, then you would be a nose picker, but by my warning you what it entails, I would expect you to therefore not pick your nose.

    yes you did. Implied. 

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  10. Skyler Coolidge
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    This must be some strange new use of the word “freedom” I wasn’t previously familiar with.

    Yeah, you can have freedom to be a religious bigot every day of the year. Go for it.

    I thought you weren’t calling people nzmes? 🤔

    Did I call someone a name? I said everyone has the right to be a bigot. I’m certainly hoping no one here despises liberty so much.

    That is, I said if you choose to pick your nose, then you would be a nose picker, but by my warning you what it entails, I would expect you to therefore not pick your nose.

    yes you did. Implied.

    Then I’m sorry to learn that you’re a nose picker.  It’s not an insult, it’s just a definition.  If you pick your nose, you’re a nose picker.  

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  11. The Reticulator Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):
    Then I’m sorry to learn that you’re a nose picker.  It’s not an insult, it’s just a definition.  If you pick your nose, you’re a nose picker.  

    Why are you sorry to learn that? Why not be happy? 

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  12. Skyler Coolidge
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    Then I’m sorry to learn that you’re a nose picker. It’s not an insult, it’s just a definition. If you pick your nose, you’re a nose picker.

    Why are you sorry to learn that? Why not be happy?

    There is some benefit to nasal hygiene.  I suppose it’s the method of nose picking that matters.  But now the analogy is stretched too far.

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  13. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Skyler (View Comment):

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    This must be some strange new use of the word “freedom” I wasn’t previously familiar with.

    Yeah, you can have freedom to be a religious bigot every day of the year. Go for it.

    I thought you weren’t calling people nzmes? 🤔

    Did I call someone a name? I said everyone has the right to be a bigot. I’m certainly hoping no one here despises liberty so much.

    That is, I said if you choose to pick your nose, then you would be a nose picker, but by my warning you what it entails, I would expect you to therefore not pick your nose.

    yes you did. Implied.

    Then I’m sorry to learn that you’re a nose picker. It’s not an insult, it’s just a definition. If you pick your nose, you’re a nose picker.

    Everyone is a nose picker. 

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  14. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    This must be some strange new use of the word “freedom” I wasn’t previously familiar with.

    Yeah, you can have freedom to be a religious bigot every day of the year. Go for it.

    I thought you weren’t calling people nzmes? 🤔

    Did I call someone a name? I said everyone has the right to be a bigot. I’m certainly hoping no one here despises liberty so much.

    That is, I said if you choose to pick your nose, then you would be a nose picker, but by my warning you what it entails, I would expect you to therefore not pick your nose.

    yes you did. Implied.

    More importantly,

    You are engaging in a cowardly attack. You are openly calling people racist/bigoted then denying that you are name calling. You taunted someone and called them “snowflake”.

    It is clear you have no interest in actual debate, but shutting it down. 

    If I choose not to do business with someone because they cannot bring themselves to say “Merry Christmas” I can do so. That does not make me intolerant or a bigot. I means I want to shop places where I get “Merry Christmas”.

    But you are too busy name calling to bother with that. 

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  15. Skyler Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    This must be some strange new use of the word “freedom” I wasn’t previously familiar with.

    Yeah, you can have freedom to be a religious bigot every day of the year. Go for it.

    I thought you weren’t calling people nzmes? 🤔

    Did I call someone a name? I said everyone has the right to be a bigot. I’m certainly hoping no one here despises liberty so much.

    That is, I said if you choose to pick your nose, then you would be a nose picker, but by my warning you what it entails, I would expect you to therefore not pick your nose.

    yes you did. Implied.

    More importantly,

    You are engaging in a cowardly attack. You are openly calling people racist/bigoted then denying that you are name calling. You taunted someone and called them “snowflake”.

    It is clear you have no interest in actual debate, but shutting it down.

    If I choose not to do business with someone because they cannot bring themselves to say “Merry Christmas” I can do so. That does not make me intolerant or a bigot. I means I want to shop places where I get “Merry Christmas”.

    But you are too busy name calling to bother with that.

    You have a hard time with truth.  I never said anyone is racist.  I never called anyone a snowflake.  

    I did say that if you really won’t do business with some simply because they might say a generic “season’s greetings” or “happy holidays” then you are probably a religious bigot.   You are free to do so, but the intolerance for people with different beliefs is unamerican. 

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