Quote of the Day: Facts

 

“Facts don’t care about your feelings.” – Ben Shapiro

I have used this once before, but if ever there was a quote that summed up this week this is it. We have seen it in the lefty reactions to the Rittenhouse verdict. It is a giant cry of “Don’t confuse me with facts. My feelings tell me he is guilty.”

Of course, he was innocent. Watch the videos, go over the court testimony and the facts are obvious: this was a clear-cut case of self-defense. Yet to many on the left, the facts are irrelevant. It is all about the feelz.

I once had a boss who kept telling me: “You’ve got to understand. It does not matter what the facts are. Perceptions are everything.” We were discussing a Shuttle-related technical issue, one directly connected to safety. I responded, saying. “If your perceptions are the plane is flying straight and level at 10,000 feet and the facts are that you are at 500 feet and spinning in then your perceptions are going to get a reality update within three seconds.” Because it really did not matter what you felt. Facts were going to intrude.

Facts always matter more than feelings — as was demonstrated Friday.

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  1. Randy Webster Member
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    Well, he is guilty of shooting three people.  The jury decided he wasn’t guilty of a crime.  And I agree.

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  2. DoubleDare Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Well, he is guilty of shooting three people. The jury decided he wasn’t guilty of a crime. And I agree.

    One is not ‘guilty’ of defending oneself against attackers threatening physical violence.

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  3. DonG (CAGW is a hoax) Coolidge
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    Seawriter

    Facts don’t care about your feelings. – Ben Shapiro

    Feelings don’t care about your facts — All Leftists

    If you don’t believe try to have a discussion about any issue.

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  4. Allie Hahn Coolidge
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    I’m glad that justice prevailed in this case and that the jury did rule based on the facts. That video of Rittenhouse hearing the “not guilty” verdicts is just heartbreaking to watch. To go through the events of that night and then have to go through all of this in court and in the media too – I can’t imagine. 

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  5. Seawriter Contributor
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    Allie Hahn (View Comment):
    To go through the events of that night and then have to go through all of this in court and in the media too – I can’t imagine. 

    I can. Been there, done that. Although I was not the defendant at the trial of the guy who tried to kill me, I was the star prosecution witness. Their Grosskreutz with the advantage I had not criminal record and the story I told bolstered rather than hindered the prosecution case. (That and that the witness the defense produced to “prove” I had attacked first and the guy that knifed me was acting in self-defense identified my future brother-in-law as me for the court. Better still, she said “Yeah – that’s the dude” even after he identified himself by a name that was not mine.)

    I have occasional mild regrets I did not kill the man who attacked me, that is well outweighed by the realization I could have been the defendant if I had. 

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  6. Randy Webster Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Allie Hahn (View Comment):
    To go through the events of that night and then have to go through all of this in court and in the media too – I can’t imagine.

    I can. Been there, done that. Although I was not the defendant at the trial of the guy who tried to kill me, I was the star prosecution witness. Their Grosskreutz with the advantage I had not criminal record and the story I told bolstered rather than hindered the prosecution case. (That and that the witness the defense produced to “prove” I had attacked first and the guy that knifed me was acting in self-defense identified my future brother-in-law as me for the court. Better still, she said “Yeah – that’s the dude” even after he identified himself by a name that was not mine.)

    I have occasional mild regrets I did not kill the man who attacked me, that is well outweighed by the realization I could have been the defendant if I had.

    I don’t carry, because I tuck my shirt tail in, and it’s hard to carry then.  But I generally have a pistol within reach, and I’m not going to miss.

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  7. JosePluma, Local Man of Mystery Thatcher
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Well, he is guilty of shooting three people. The jury decided he wasn’t guilty of a crime. And I agree.

    No, he’s not guilty of shooting three people.  Legal guilt means you have been charged with a crime and found, after a proper legal procedure, to have committed that crime. Saying he’s guilty of shooting three people is like saying he’s guilty of waking up and having breakfast.

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  8. Flicker Coolidge
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    JosePluma, Local Man of Mystery (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Well, he is guilty of shooting three people. The jury decided he wasn’t guilty of a crime. And I agree.

    No, he’s not guilty of shooting three people. Legal guilt means you have been charged with a crime and found, after a proper legal procedure, to have committed that crime. Saying he’s guilty of shooting three people is like saying he’s guilty of waking up and having breakfast.

    He’s not morally guilty either.

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  9. Ansonia Member
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    I think a lot of the “feelz” you’re seeing in the media on the left right now is really rage brought on by the embarrassment of having been caught sometimes deliberately lying, and caught sometimes reporting without knowing what they were talking about when they could have done the work of finding out ahead of reporting.

    They’re taking that rage out on Kyle Rittenhouse, because it’s his fault they embarrassed themselves, of course.

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  10. Doug Watt Moderator
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    A very basic definition of a homicide is an action that results in the death of a person due to an action of another person. Not all homicides are murders.

    I watched the live coverage of the trial. As a former police officer it was clear to me that Mr. Rittenhouse was overcharged. It was also clear to me that he was charged before a complete investigation was conducted. For example he was charged before autopsies were completed. It was also clear to me that the prosecutors withheld evidence, and two witnesses from the defense attorneys.

    The most laughable moment for me came when a prosecutor stated in his closing arguments that Mr. Rittenhouse was obligated to take a beating. There is no law that I know of that states someone has to take a beating from one person, or multiple persons. 

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  11. Randy Webster Member
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    I don’t care what the law is.  I’m not taking a beating if I have any way to prevent it.  Whoever’s trying to administer it gets what’s coming to him.

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  12. Seawriter Contributor
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I don’t care what the law is. I’m not taking a beating if I have any way to prevent it. Whoever’s trying to administer it gets what’s coming to him.

    In the United States, despite the assertion of Binger Kraus, not having to take a beating is legal. In the United Kingdom? Not so much.

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  13. Percival Thatcher
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I don’t care what the law is. I’m not taking a beating if I have any way to prevent it. Whoever’s trying to administer it gets what’s coming to him.

    In the United States, despite the assertion of Binger, not having to take a beating is legal. In the United Kingdom? Not so much.

    It was Kraus, not Binger. The confusion is understandable. It’s hard to tell the idjits apart without a program.

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  14. Seawriter Contributor
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I don’t care what the law is. I’m not taking a beating if I have any way to prevent it. Whoever’s trying to administer it gets what’s coming to him.

    In the United States, despite the assertion of Binger, not having to take a beating is legal. In the United Kingdom? Not so much.

    It was Kraus, not Binger. The confusion is understandable. It’s hard to tell the idjits apart without a program.

    So noted, and corrected.

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