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Ron DeSantis: Marketing Genius?
Florida is ready to welcome police officers who are losing their jobs nationwide because of COVID-19 vaccination mandates, Gov. Ron DeSantis says, adding that he wants to offer a $5,000 bonus to any officer who relocates to the Sunshine State.
“So New York, Minneapolis, Seattle, if you’re not being treated well, we’ll treat you better here,” the Florida Republican said Sunday on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo.” “You can fill important needs for us, and we’ll compensate you as a result.”
Florida’s economy is booming, said DeSantis, because the state “protected people’s right to work and businesses’ right to operate” by remaining mostly open during the COVID-19 pandemic.
However, the most important things police need are qualified immunity, a government that will back them up as well as the general public. With those, former cops may move to Florida without needing the incentive.
However, if cops are stripped of their immunity, pursued by leftist AGs, and convicted by biased jurors, no amount of money will make them stay in the profession or enter it to begin with . . .
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Well the Supreme Court without dissent supported qualified immunity in two unsigned opinions last week.
As for DeSantis’ marketing acumen…
Brilliant. I love this man. All you cops out there, c’mon down!
Or come to Tennessee. Look who’s making the move:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/smith-wesson-headquarters-tennessee-gun-legislation
It’s also pretty damn smart. I’m guessing that the cost of training a police officer, let alone recruiting experienced ones, is a lot more than $5,000.
Add to that, a force that is grateful and respected? Maybe not priceless, but worth way more than $5,000.
Those of us firmly planted in the bluest of blue states benefit as well from this kind of thing. Eventually our electorate will tire of lagging the better-run states and will demand improvement.
I think I’d like a pair of those rose-colored glasses you wear.
KE, that’s the kind of thing one says if he doesn’t believe in market forces. I believe in market forces.
The best you can probably hope for is a pause like NYC sometimes gets when they briefly get tired of Democrat-caused violence etc and then let someone like Rudy be mayor for a while, to make things a little less awful. But then they quickly go back to the leftist march.
It’s likely to be less of a pause in many areas, if there’s a pause at all, if they went farther on defunding police etc. There’s no good reason for police to go back to work in those areas with any confidence that they won’t still get prosecuted the next time someone ODs while in their presence, or something.
America is a great big bell curve — actually, hundreds of little bell curves. Nothing is ever perfect, few things are ever truly static.
I’ll take every victory I can get, count every small improvement as progress, every loss as a temporary setback, and never say it’s over.
Stop drinking the cool-aid from the Republican media propaganda arm. They don’t lie like the corporate media but are still worthless and play the victim card all the time. Having Qualified immunity for actions that any civilian would land 20 years in jail for is corruption to the core. We are not talking about Qualified immunity for Civil but Criminal conduct. Removing qualified immunity would be a two-way street. Corrupt Democratic prosecutors could be criminally prosecuted for things like withholding critical evidence. No one is talking about only police not having qualified immunity, that is a straw man argument. The police have to much power, they need a lot less.
Desantis is a more benevolent control freak than most US governors right now but still has a pretty big authoritarian streak. He legalized Medically Lockdowns in Florida by Executive order for an unlimited amount of time. Only the legislator can by a resolution overrule it. We still have no limits on the time an emergency executive order can be in place in Florida. Think about that, after the lesson of how corrupt emergency executive orders are. Just because he is not abusing that power does not mean it will not be abused by future governors.
The Republican Florida party did not learn anything in 2020 to prevent that from happening in Florida when they are not in power. Which can happen.
What would you propose to make sure it doesn’t happen? Whatever you propose, I’m pretty sure I can show that it wouldn’t actually work. Because as I’ve pointed out many times over the course of my life, no great hand comes down from the sky to make people do the right thing.
You can pass laws that say a prosecutor that withholds evidence goes to jail. But if you’re not in power, those who ARE in power can decline to prosecute, and nothing can force them to do otherwise. On the other hand, those in power could falsely claim that someone they don’t like, withheld evidence, and send them to jail. And as long as they are in power, nothing will stop them.
Even just making sure that Democrats never have power, isn’t totally sufficient, since not everyone who isn’t a Democrat is pure as the driven snow either.
The problem is some blue-staters are finding out once you go “Defund the police,” it’s hard to change gears and return to “Come work for us.”
Qualified immunity is very specific and does not give officers absolute immunity from deliberately violating a suspect’s rights.
Absolutely. It’s going to cost more. But we’ve been here before. (And, of course, the City isn’t the state.)
“And we promise not to prosecute you next time!”
I’ve seen zero evidence of this. The stupid seems permanent.
You’ve seen zero evidence that the electorate sometimes responds to failing policies by voting in people with better policy ideas?
Ryan Whitaker, Breonna Taylor, and Daniel Shaver were not available for comment.
Hope he’ll also be the first to say let’s pull out and form our own nation. Nobody needs Washington’s bureaucrats, nor most of those in California or New York. We seem confident that Biden’s approval has fallen, but over 40% still express support for him. Good lord any real candidate will pick up 10 points easily even in a fair election, and fair isn’t going to happen.
DeSantis is brilliant.
As to qualified immunity, is only a civil, not criminal remedy. Prosecutors can still bring criminal charges against police. It is raised as a defense when victims or their families seek civil damages. And once raised, the burden is on the plaintiff to convince the court it does not apply.
Qualified immunity was invented by the Supreme Court in 1982 and applies to all government employees.
According to the Supreme Court, qualified immunity applies even if the official intentionally or recklessly violates the law unless there is an earlier court case specifically stating that precisely the same conduct under the same circumstances is illegal or unconstitutional.
Qualified immunity is a flawed doctrine.
No thanks to SCOTUS. QI is not supposed to apply in this case.
I’ve seen zero evidence that the voters in Blue states are smart enough to reject the Democratic party and it’s Progressive stupidity.
Well, you could be right, of course.
But I think we often fall victim to a kind of binary thinking, seeing anything less than a complete victory as a complete defeat. That’s a great way to end a world war, but rarely a realistic goal within the context of a large and diverse nation that isn’t actually at war with itself.
If the Democrats who run the state become more cautious, back off of their crazier notions, make some compromises to quiet the electorate, then that’s improvement.
I can’t see it happening. They double down on every failure, and ensure their re-election by driving opposition voters and businesses away with their terrible policies.
Put another way, they’ve given up on incrementalism and put the pedal to the metal on their agenda . . .
We’re in new territory, Stad. The left hasn’t been this crazy and overt since the 60s, and never in an age of alternative media. The institutions have never been this blatantly leftist and in opposition to the spirit of the country.
We don’t know how this will play out.
If there’s a backlash at the polls, maybe we won’t have to find out . . .
We bagged our limit already, FN and Palmetto State Armory.