Who Said This?

 

“And frankly, in the impending period of global reconstruction, which may take quite long, with its final design being uncertain, moderate conservatism is the most reasonable line of conduct, as far as I see it. It will inevitably change at some point, but so far, do no harm — the guiding principle in medicine — seems to be the most rational one. Noli nocere, as they say.”

This is as close to a quotation as I can find.  It comes at the end of this speech.  Who said this?  Condoleezza Rice?  Thomas Sowell?  Victor Davis Hanson?  I have removed the very few particulars that may give it away.

“We look in amazement at the processes underway in the countries which have been traditionally looked at as the standard-bearers of progress,” “Of course, the social and cultural shocks that are taking place in the United States and Western Europe …”  “Some people in the West believe that an aggressive elimination of entire pages from their own history, ‘reverse discrimination’ against the majority in the interests of a minority, and the demand to give up the traditional notions of mother, father, family and even gender, they believe that all of these are the mileposts on the path towards social renewal,”

“The only thing that I want to say now is that their prescriptions are not new at all,”  “It may come as a surprise to some people, but Russia has been there already,” “After the 1917 revolution, the Bolsheviks, relying on the dogmas of Marx and Engels, also said that they would change existing ways and customs and not just political and economic ones, but the very notion of human morality and the foundations of a healthy society. The destruction of age-old values, religion and relations between people, up to and including the total rejection of family … encouragement to inform on loved ones – all this was proclaimed progress and, by the way, was widely supported around the world back then and was quite fashionable, same as today. By the way, the Bolsheviks were absolutely intolerant of opinions other than theirs.”

“This, I believe, should call to mind some of what we are witnessing now,” “Looking at what is happening in a number of Western countries, we are amazed to see the domestic practices, which we, fortunately, have left, I hope, in the distant past.”

“The fight for equality and against discrimination has turned into aggressive dogmatism bordering on absurdity, when the works of the great authors of the past — such as Shakespeare — are no longer taught at schools or universities, because their ideas are believed to be backward,” “The classics are declared backward and ignorant of the importance of gender or race. In Hollywood, memos are distributed about proper storytelling and how many characters of what colour or gender should be in a movie. This is even worse than the agitprop department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.”

“Countering acts of racism is a necessary and noble cause, but the new ‘cancel culture’ has turned it into ‘reverse discrimination’ that is, reverse racism,”

“The obsessive emphasis on race is further dividing people, when the real fighters for civil rights dreamed precisely about erasing differences and refusing to divide people by skin colour,”

“I … find the following quote from Martin Luther King: ‘I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by their character.’ This is the true value,”

“However, things are turning out differently there,” “By the way, the absolute majority of … people do not think that the colour of a person’s skin or their gender is an important matter. Each of us is a human being. This is what matters.”

“In a number of Western countries, the debate over men’s and women’s rights has turned into a perfect phantasmagoria. Look, beware of going where the Bolsheviks once planned to go — not only communalising chickens, but also communalising women. One more step and you will be there,” “Zealots of these new approaches even go so far as to want to abolish these concepts altogether “Anyone who dares mention that men and women actually exist, which is a biological fact, risk being ostracised.”

“‘Parent number one’ and ‘parent number two,’ ‘birthing parent’ instead of ‘mother,’ and ‘human milk’ replacing ‘breastmilk’ because it might upset the people who are unsure about their own gender. I repeat, this is nothing new; in the 1920s, the so-called … Kulturtraegers also invented some newspeak believing they were creating a new consciousness and changing values that way. And, as I have already said, they made such a mess it still makes one shudder at times,”

“Not to mention some truly monstrous things when children are taught from an early age that a boy can easily become a girl and vice versa,” “That is, the teachers actually impose on them a choice we all supposedly have. They do so while shutting the parents out of the process and forcing the child to make decisions that can upend their entire life. They do not even bother to consult with child psychologists — is a child at this age even capable of making a decision of this kind? Calling a spade a spade, this verges on a crime against humanity, and it is being done in the name and under the banner of progress.”

“Well, if someone likes this, let them do it. I have already mentioned that, in shaping our approaches, we will be guided by a healthy conservatism,” “That was a few years ago, when passions on the international arena were not yet running as high as they are now, although, of course, we can say that clouds were gathering even then. Now, when the world is going through a structural disruption, the importance of reasonable conservatism as the foundation for a political course has skyrocketed — precisely because of the multiplying risks and dangers, and the fragility of the reality around us.”

“This conservative approach is not about an ignorant traditionalism, a fear of change or a restraining game, much less about withdrawing into our own shell,” “It is primarily about reliance on a time-tested tradition, the preservation and growth of the population, a realistic assessment of oneself and others, a precise alignment of priorities, a correlation of necessity and possibility, a prudent formulation of goals, and a fundamental rejection of extremism as a method. And frankly, in the impending period of global reconstruction, which may take quite long, with its final design being uncertain, moderate conservatism is the most reasonable line of conduct, as far as I see it. It will inevitably change at some point, but so far, do no harm — the guiding principle in medicine — seems to be the most rational one. Noli nocere, as they say.”

 

Answer: Vladimir Putin.

What have we come to when a Russian oligarch can voice the very observations and warnings of where and what catastrophe we are being led into, and that our own conservative representatives in government will not utter?

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  1. Flicker Coolidge
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    Flicker: What have we come to when a Russian oligarch can voice the very observations and warnings of where and what catastrophe we are being led into, and that our own conservative representatives in government will not utter?

    I think maybe we have come to a crafty Putin, who is trolling in order to strengthen the woke movement, which he knows is good for him. “Those right wing extremist enemies of ours on Ricochet are parroting Putin’s propaganda for him. They agree with the KGB.”

    The logic: Putin lies, Putin attack’s cancel culture, therefore cancel culture is good.

    Compare what happened to Trump when the alt-right endorsed him.

    Yes.  I can’t count how many levels Putin is thinking, but the sheer calling-out of US politics and culture to his political allies and disseminating it to the West (and I suppose, the East) is poignant no matter the reason.  On its surface it seems to be a legitimate contrast of Russia with the US, and that’s how I took it.  Maybe it corresponds to a sales briefing.

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    He is the corrupt leader of corrupt government. He is a good politician, which is what enables him to talk a good game.

    I don’t think I have enough unbiased information to draw this conclusion.

    If you watch the muckraking videos put out by Navalny’s anti-corruption foundation, and then watch the responses from the Russian government, you’ll find you have enough information.

    Vlad may be a corrupt and murderous tyrant, but that doesn’t mean not to protect Fortress Russia.

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    I think Putin is more complex than “I am going this all for me and mine”. I find that to me more likely, in fact, that Biden. Biden is in it for Biden and his family and nothing else.

    I think both Putin and Biden are more complex than that. Most any corrupt politician has mixed motives.

    Putin may be more complex, but Biden hasn’t seemed complex at any time in his multi-decade “career.”

    Well, not in the same way, but he has to listen to competing voices of progressives, each advocating for its own advantage in oppressing the people. It’s complicated.

    I think he listens to his handler, who ends every thought with, “Do you understand that we control your vertical?”

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    Flicker (View Comment):

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    He is the corrupt leader of corrupt government. He is a good politician, which is what enables him to talk a good game.

    I don’t think I have enough unbiased information to draw this conclusion.

    If you watch the muckraking videos put out by Navalny’s anti-corruption foundation, and then watch the responses from the Russian government, you’ll find you have enough information.

    Vlad may be a corrupt and murderous tyrant, but that doesn’t mean not to protect Fortress Russia.

    Yup, and that’s good. However, not if it means Ukraine can’t protect Fortress Ukraine, or Poland can’t protect Fortress Poland.

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    I think Putin is more complex than “I am going this all for me and mine”. I find that to me more likely, in fact, that Biden. Biden is in it for Biden and his family and nothing else.

    I think both Putin and Biden are more complex than that. Most any corrupt politician has mixed motives.

    Putin may be more complex, but Biden hasn’t seemed complex at any time in his multi-decade “career.”

    Well, not in the same way, but he has to listen to competing voices of progressives, each advocating for its own advantage in oppressing the people. It’s complicated.

    I think he listens to his handler, who ends every thought with, “Do you understand that we control your vertical?”

    And by implication, his horizontal.

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    He is the corrupt leader of corrupt government. He is a good politician, which is what enables him to talk a good game.

    I don’t think I have enough unbiased information to draw this conclusion.

    If you watch the muckraking videos put out by Navalny’s anti-corruption foundation, and then watch the responses from the Russian government, you’ll find you have enough information.

    Vlad may be a corrupt and murderous tyrant, but that doesn’t mean not to protect Fortress Russia.

    Yup, and that’s good. However, not if it means Ukraine can’t protect Fortress Ukraine, or Poland can’t protect Fortress Poland.

    Yes, there’s a significant amount of local expansionism there.

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    I think Putin is more complex than “I am going this all for me and mine”. I find that to me more likely, in fact, that Biden. Biden is in it for Biden and his family and nothing else.

    I think both Putin and Biden are more complex than that. Most any corrupt politician has mixed motives.

    Putin may be more complex, but Biden hasn’t seemed complex at any time in his multi-decade “career.”

    Well, not in the same way, but he has to listen to competing voices of progressives, each advocating for its own advantage in oppressing the people. It’s complicated.

    I think he listens to his handler, who ends every thought with, “Do you understand that we control your vertical?”

    And by implication, his horizontal.

    By that you mean his “lid”?

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    I think Putin is more complex than “I am going this all for me and mine”. I find that to me more likely, in fact, that Biden. Biden is in it for Biden and his family and nothing else.

    I think both Putin and Biden are more complex than that. Most any corrupt politician has mixed motives.

    Putin may be more complex, but Biden hasn’t seemed complex at any time in his multi-decade “career.”

    Well, not in the same way, but he has to listen to competing voices of progressives, each advocating for its own advantage in oppressing the people. It’s complicated.

    I think he listens to his handler, who ends every thought with, “Do you understand that we control your vertical?”

    And by implication, his horizontal.

    By that you mean his “lid”?

    Well I was thinking/assuming that “vertical” might have a more sinister meaning.  So controlling his horizontal might suggest his orientation regarding a lid – to a coffin, yes.

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    I think Putin is more complex than “I am going this all for me and mine”. I find that to me more likely, in fact, that Biden. Biden is in it for Biden and his family and nothing else.

    I think both Putin and Biden are more complex than that. Most any corrupt politician has mixed motives.

    Putin may be more complex, but Biden hasn’t seemed complex at any time in his multi-decade “career.”

    Well, not in the same way, but he has to listen to competing voices of progressives, each advocating for its own advantage in oppressing the people. It’s complicated.

    I think he listens to his handler, who ends every thought with, “Do you understand that we control your vertical?”

    And by implication, his horizontal.

    By that you mean his “lid”?

    Well I was thinking/assuming that “vertical” might have a more sinister meaning. So controlling his horizontal might suggest his orientation regarding a lid – to a coffin, yes.

    Yes, there’s that, too, isn’t there.

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    I think Putin is more complex than “I am going this all for me and mine”. I find that to me more likely, in fact, that Biden. Biden is in it for Biden and his family and nothing else.

    I think both Putin and Biden are more complex than that. Most any corrupt politician has mixed motives.

    Putin may be more complex, but Biden hasn’t seemed complex at any time in his multi-decade “career.”

    Well, not in the same way, but he has to listen to competing voices of progressives, each advocating for its own advantage in oppressing the people. It’s complicated.

    I think he listens to his handler, who ends every thought with, “Do you understand that we control your vertical?”

    And by implication, his horizontal.

    By that you mean his “lid”?

    Well I was thinking/assuming that “vertical” might have a more sinister meaning. So controlling his horizontal might suggest his orientation regarding a lid – to a coffin, yes.

    Yes, there’s that, too, isn’t there.

    “Sign these executive orders and nobody gets hurt.  Well, at least nobody you know.”

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