Glad Someone Finally Said It

 

Blastfax kudos to Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) for coming out and saying what everybody knows is true but nobody wants to admit.

We are living with exactly what Democrats want.
They want higher gas prices.
They want open borders.
They want massive spending.
They want to make people dependent on government.

Yes, this is what Democrats want. All of it. And they also want the Government to monitor your bank account, the Government to tax you for every mile you drive, the Government to indoctrinate your children that white people are responsible for every injustice in the world, and the Government to label you a domestic terrorist if you speak up against any of it. (OK, to be fair, an awful lot of Republicans want open borders and massive spending, too.) They would also be perfectly happy to keep Covid restrictions in place forever, and, to those who are complaining about the scarcity and high cost of consumer goods, the Democrats and the Washington Post, have a simple message: “Stop complaining and lower your expectations, you peasants.”

For the middle and working class, “Lower your expectations.” For the political elite, “Ready the private jet, I have a Climate Conference to attend.”

It’s very important in politics to define your opponent. Democrats have convinced large numbers of people that Republicans are gay-hating racists. (Remember “Mike Pence wants to force gay kids into electroshock therapy.” Or “Mitt Romney wants to put black people in chains.” Or, “Trump said our troops were a bunch of losers.”)  Republicans have been very weak on this. They will try, mostly unsuccessfully, to define individual Democrat politicians. (“Bernie Sanders is a socialist.” “Kamala Harris can be difficult to warm up to.”) But they seem reluctant to define Democrats as a whole, probably because they think that would make it more difficult to cut deals with Democrats, should they ever win another majority.

That said, Ron Johnson is right, and more Republicans should be saying this.

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  1. DonG (CAGW is a hoax) Coolidge
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    Sen. Johnson for Republican leader!!  Ditch Mitch now!

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  2. Hoyacon Member
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    Is there a point at which Democrats realize that these policies will cost them elections?  Are they so ideologically driven that they can abide that?  Obviously we haven’t reached that point yet, but I’ve been operating on the assumption that all Democrats pretty much care about is being in power.  They have to see that’s in jeopardy.

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  3. Stina Inactive
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    @CM

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Is there a point at which Democrats realize that these policies will cost them elections? Are they so ideologically driven that they can abide that? Obviously we haven’t reached that point yet, but I’ve been operating on the assumption that all Democrats pretty much care about is being in power. They have to see that’s in jeopardy.

    Have they cost them elections yet?

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  4. Hoyacon Member
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Is there a point at which Democrats realize that these policies will cost them elections? Are they so ideologically driven that they can abide that? Obviously we haven’t reached that point yet, but I’ve been operating on the assumption that all Democrats pretty much care about is being in power. They have to see that’s in jeopardy.

    Have they cost them elections yet?

    There haven’t been many elections since the latest bout of extremism.

    The ills described in the O/P are at an order of magnitude higher now and getting worse.

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  5. Stina Inactive
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Is there a point at which Democrats realize that these policies will cost them elections? Are they so ideologically driven that they can abide that? Obviously we haven’t reached that point yet, but I’ve been operating on the assumption that all Democrats pretty much care about is being in power. They have to see that’s in jeopardy.

    Have they cost them elections yet?

    There haven’t been many elections since the latest bout of extremism.

    They should have lost in 2020 due to setting cities on fire from Portland to DC. It didn’t.

    I don’t think they think they’ll lose. There’s no evidence of it.

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  6. Hoyacon Member
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Is there a point at which Democrats realize that these policies will cost them elections? Are they so ideologically driven that they can abide that? Obviously we haven’t reached that point yet, but I’ve been operating on the assumption that all Democrats pretty much care about is being in power. They have to see that’s in jeopardy.

    Have they cost them elections yet?

    There haven’t been many elections since the latest bout of extremism.

    They should have lost in 2020 due to setting cities on fire from Portland to DC. It didn’t.

    I don’t think they think they’ll lose. There’s no evidence of it.

    Sorry, I edited my comment a bit further above while you were posting.  People identify with higher gas prices and unfilled shelves more than riots in places they don’t live.  Dems read polls and the polls are bad. I find it hard to believe that they are this dumb, but I could be wrong.

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  7. MarciN Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    People identify with higher gas prices

    I just got gas this morning, and on the pump was a sticker with a cartoon figure of Joe Biden pointing to the diesel gas price. The caption said, “Thanks, Joe.” The sticker was printed, so some truck driver is pasting them around. The gas station hadn’t removed it. :-) 

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  8. Hoyacon Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    People identify with higher gas prices

    I just got gas this morning, and on the pump was a sticker with a cartoon figure of Joe Biden pointing to the diesel gas price. The caption said, “Thanks, Joe.” The sticker was printed, so some truck driver is pasting them around. The gas station hadn’t removed it. :-)

    Guessing you’re around $3.50 in your neck of the woods.

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  9. Django Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Is there a point at which Democrats realize that these policies will cost them elections? Are they so ideologically driven that they can abide that? Obviously we haven’t reached that point yet, but I’ve been operating on the assumption that all Democrats pretty much care about is being in power. They have to see that’s in jeopardy.

    I’ve forgotten the exact timeline, but IIRC, when the Democrat true believers got power in the Obama administration and passed Obamacare, they knew two things for certain: 1) they’d get spanked in the mid-terms, 2) the GOPe would never repeal it. In that specific case, staying in office was not the goal. Also, those who got voted out could count on the party to find another source of income for them. So, is anything in the current Demo-rat plan important enough for them to fall on their swords knowing that their futures aren’t really at risk, and knowing that a loser such as The Turtle won’t succeed in undoing anything? 

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  10. Hoyacon Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Is there a point at which Democrats realize that these policies will cost them elections? Are they so ideologically driven that they can abide that? Obviously we haven’t reached that point yet, but I’ve been operating on the assumption that all Democrats pretty much care about is being in power. They have to see that’s in jeopardy.

    I’ve forgotten the exact timeline, but IIRC, when the Democrat true believers got power in the Obama administration and passed Obamacare, they knew two things for certain: 1) they’d get spanked in the mid-terms, 2) the GOPe would never repeal it. In that specific case, staying in office was not the goal. Also, those who got voted out could count on the party to find another source of income for them. So, is anything in the current Demo-rat plan important enough for them to fall on their swords knowing that their futures aren’t really at risk, and knowing that a loser such as The Turtle won’t succeed in undoing anything?

    That makes sense.  I would say the open borders is an important enough issue for them because it’s about the long game and the fact the national electorate overall doesn’t seem bothered by it. But I think “create dependence on the government” is not a specific enough goal to fall on one’s sword.  That, and the fact the issue strongly implicates pocketbook concerns that drive a lot of voting.

    I wish the mid- terms were tomorrow.

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  11. Stina Inactive
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    People identify with higher gas prices

    I just got gas this morning, and on the pump was a sticker with a cartoon figure of Joe Biden pointing to the diesel gas price. The caption said, “Thanks, Joe.” The sticker was printed, so some truck driver is pasting them around. The gas station hadn’t removed it. :-)

    I’ve heard of gas station owners putting them on their own pumps.

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  12. Unsk Member
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    DonG : ” Sen. Johnson for Republican leader!!  Ditch Mitch now!”

    Wouldn’t that be great. Chairman Xi’s man  ( with a Father in Law that is a Chinese Shipping Magnate that advises the Chinese Military) in the Senate gone for good?

    There is a report that both he and Nancy are on the verge of retiring. We will see. 

     

    One Last thing to add to:

    “We are living with exactly what Democrats want.
    They want higher gas prices.
    They want open borders.
    They want massive spending.
    They want to make people dependent on government.
      

    What the Dems really enjoy is to hurt and kill Americans. That is how they get their jollies. 

     

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  13. Percival Thatcher
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    Politics ain’t beanbag.

    — Mr. Dooley (as told to Finley Peter Dunne)

    Elected Republicans may want to reflect on the wisdom of that observation, and to consider that first prize in the Congressional Miss Congeniality Award henceforth may be a long, lonely bus ride home.

    Fight, or hold the jackets of those who will.

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  14. Flicker Coolidge
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    There is a report that both he and Nancy are on the verge of retiring. We will see. 

    This was reported by Maria Bartiromo, who interestingly happens to be a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

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  15. I Walton Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Is there a point at which Democrats realize that these policies will cost them elections? Are they so ideologically driven that they can abide that? Obviously we haven’t reached that point yet, but I’ve been operating on the assumption that all Democrats pretty much care about is being in power. They have to see that’s in jeopardy.

    Have they cost them elections yet?

    There haven’t been many elections since the latest bout of extremism.

    They should have lost in 2020 due to setting cities on fire from Portland to DC. It didn’t.

    I don’t think they think they’ll lose. There’s no evidence of it.

    Sorry, I edited my comment a bit further above while you were posting. People identify with higher gas prices and unfilled shelves more than riots in places they don’t live. Dems read polls and the polls are bad. I find it hard to believe that they are this dumb, but I could be wrong.

    Polls don’t matter if elections results are fabricated. A win must be overwhelming.

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  16. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Both Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been saying this out loud for a long time.

    But then, they are libertarians.

    Donald Trump has been suggesting this is the case  as well.

    Glad to see a Republican is finally aboard. 

    In the very near future, may some more party members indicate the possibility of not needing spinal column replacements.

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  17. spaceman_spiff Member
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Both Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been saying this out loud for a long time.

    But then, they are libertarians.

    Donald Trump has been suggesting this is the case as well.

    Glad to see a Republican is finally aboard.

    In the very near future, may some more party members indicate the possibility of not needing spinal column replacements.

    I missed the part where Trump was against massive spending. He was NOT a champion for smaller government. None of his supporters wanted a smaller government – not a single one of them. Not only was he the biggest spending president we ever had until Biden came along but he also made farmers even more dependent on government handouts. Before he was even elected he campaigned AGAINST ending the ethanol mandate. Because of his tariffs and China’s response he felt the need to bail out soybean farmers. He also was against entitlement reform. And his supporters look the other way from his profligacy all the while pretending they care about the fiscal train wreck. Republicans office holders are not going to care about these things until you care about them first.

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  18. Hoyacon Member
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Both Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been saying this out loud for a long time.

    But then, they are libertarians.

    Donald Trump has been suggesting this is the case as well.

    Glad to see a Republican is finally aboard.

    In the very near future, may some more party members indicate the possibility of not needing spinal column replacements.

    I missed the part where Trump was against massive spending. He was NOT a champion for smaller government. None of his supporters wanted a smaller government – not a single one of them. Not only was he the biggest spending president we ever had until Biden came along but he also made farmers even more dependent on government handouts. Before he was even elected he campaigned AGAINST ending the ethanol mandate. Because of his tariffs and China’s response he felt the need to bail out soybean farmers. He also was against entitlement reform. And his supporters look the other way from his profligacy all the while pretending they care about the fiscal train wreck. Republicans office holders are not going to care about these things until you care about them first.

    It’s wholly inaccurate to say none of Trump’s supporters (not a single one of them!) wanted smaller government.  It’s not even close to the truth.  But thanks for playing.

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  19. Stina Inactive
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Both Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been saying this out loud for a long time.

    But then, they are libertarians.

    Donald Trump has been suggesting this is the case as well.

    Glad to see a Republican is finally aboard.

    In the very near future, may some more party members indicate the possibility of not needing spinal column replacements.

    I missed the part where Trump was against massive spending. He was NOT a champion for smaller government. None of his supporters wanted a smaller government – not a single one of them. Not only was he the biggest spending president we ever had until Biden came along but he also made farmers even more dependent on government handouts. Before he was even elected he campaigned AGAINST ending the ethanol mandate. Because of his tariffs and China’s response he felt the need to bail out soybean farmers. He also was against entitlement reform. And his supporters look the other way from his profligacy all the while pretending they care about the fiscal train wreck. Republicans office holders are not going to care about these things until you care about them first.

    It’s wholly inaccurate to say none of Trump’s supporters (not a single one of them!) wanted smaller government. It’s not even close to the truth. But thanks for playing.

    There were different priorities in the Trump years, certain ones more pressing. But for his attempts to kicks things back to the states, that would have had the LONG TERM effect of giving a foundation to shrinking government.

    So does bring jobs back to the US.

    I’m not convinced people that push this line actually want small government. They aren’t capable of recognizing the pieces they need to solve that puzzle.

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  20. spaceman_spiff Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Both Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been saying this out loud for a long time.

    But then, they are libertarians.

    Donald Trump has been suggesting this is the case as well.

    Glad to see a Republican is finally aboard.

    In the very near future, may some more party members indicate the possibility of not needing spinal column replacements.

    I missed the part where Trump was against massive spending. He was NOT a champion for smaller government. None of his supporters wanted a smaller government – not a single one of them. Not only was he the biggest spending president we ever had until Biden came along but he also made farmers even more dependent on government handouts. Before he was even elected he campaigned AGAINST ending the ethanol mandate. Because of his tariffs and China’s response he felt the need to bail out soybean farmers. He also was against entitlement reform. And his supporters look the other way from his profligacy all the while pretending they care about the fiscal train wreck. Republicans office holders are not going to care about these things until you care about them first.

    It’s wholly inaccurate to say none of Trump’s supporters (not a single one of them!) wanted smaller government. It’s not even close to the truth. But thanks for playing.

    I’m not playing. Interesting that you think this is some kind of game.

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  21. Hoyacon Member
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Both Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been saying this out loud for a long time.

    But then, they are libertarians.

    Donald Trump has been suggesting this is the case as well.

    Glad to see a Republican is finally aboard.

    In the very near future, may some more party members indicate the possibility of not needing spinal column replacements.

    I missed the part where Trump was against massive spending. He was NOT a champion for smaller government. None of his supporters wanted a smaller government – not a single one of them. Not only was he the biggest spending president we ever had until Biden came along but he also made farmers even more dependent on government handouts. Before he was even elected he campaigned AGAINST ending the ethanol mandate. Because of his tariffs and China’s response he felt the need to bail out soybean farmers. He also was against entitlement reform. And his supporters look the other way from his profligacy all the while pretending they care about the fiscal train wreck. Republicans office holders are not going to care about these things until you care about them first.

    It’s wholly inaccurate to say none of Trump’s supporters (not a single one of them!) wanted smaller government. It’s not even close to the truth. But thanks for playing.

    I’m not playing. Interesting that you think this is some kind of game.

    Well it certainly isn’t To Tell the Truth considering you think that none of Trump’s supporters want smaller government.   After seeing that, I was not aware that  you took this particularly seriously.  

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  22. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    One can legitimately criticize Trump for not making an effort to cut spending or reform entitlements, but the truth is, there is exactly zero appetite in Washington for either of those. Even “Deficit Hawk” Paul Ryan signed off on budget deals that gave Obama more spending than he had even asked for. It would have been a waste of political capital to even try. Although, securing the border would save the Government billions in services and welfare provided illegal immigrants and their anchor children.

    That said, however, the statement “None of his supporters wanted a smaller government – not a single one of them.” is a falsehood.

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  23. tigerlily Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Is there a point at which Democrats realize that these policies will cost them elections? Are they so ideologically driven that they can abide that? Obviously we haven’t reached that point yet, but I’ve been operating on the assumption that all Democrats pretty much care about is being in power. They have to see that’s in jeopardy.

    Until they start losing elections Democrats will keep the foot on the gas pedal to progressive nirvana. The results of their policies will not matter to them until it hurts them politically. Look around at the Leftist run cities – Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York City, Chicago and so forth. The people in those places keep voting for failure mainly, I think, because it makes them feel good about themselves.

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  24. Django Member
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    tigerlily (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Is there a point at which Democrats realize that these policies will cost them elections? Are they so ideologically driven that they can abide that? Obviously we haven’t reached that point yet, but I’ve been operating on the assumption that all Democrats pretty much care about is being in power. They have to see that’s in jeopardy.

    Until they start losing elections Democrats will keep the foot on the gas pedal to progressive nirvana. The results of their policies will not matter to them until it hurts them politically. Look around at the Leftist run cities – Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York City, Chicago and so forth. The people in those places keep voting for failure mainly, I think, because it makes them feel good about themselves.

    That and that they have been convinced that conservatives are mean, greedy, selfish, and evil people. I sent a link to an article by WFB, Jr. on gratitude. The response I got was surprise that a conservative would be so supportive of a “liberal” value. I don’t know how to deal with that kind of stupidity. It is exactly the opposite. Gratitude is a conservative sentiment. Entitlement is a liberal attitude. Do any liberals appreciate the work of the taxpayers who make it possible for them to spend money on their lunatic policies? I doubt it. The whole subject is worthy of its own post if I had the patience to research further and write the post properly properly. 

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  25. RyanFalcone Member
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    Nailed it!

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  26. spaceman_spiff Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Both Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been saying this out loud for a long time.

    But then, they are libertarians.

    Donald Trump has been suggesting this is the case as well.

    Glad to see a Republican is finally aboard.

    In the very near future, may some more party members indicate the possibility of not needing spinal column replacements.

    I missed the part where Trump was against massive spending. He was NOT a champion for smaller government. None of his supporters wanted a smaller government – not a single one of them. Not only was he the biggest spending president we ever had until Biden came along but he also made farmers even more dependent on government handouts. Before he was even elected he campaigned AGAINST ending the ethanol mandate. Because of his tariffs and China’s response he felt the need to bail out soybean farmers. He also was against entitlement reform. And his supporters look the other way from his profligacy all the while pretending they care about the fiscal train wreck. Republicans office holders are not going to care about these things until you care about them first.

    It’s wholly inaccurate to say none of Trump’s supporters (not a single one of them!) wanted smaller government. It’s not even close to the truth. But thanks for playing.

    I’m not playing. Interesting that you think this is some kind of game.

    Well it certainly isn’t To Tell the Truth considering you think that none of Trump’s supporters want smaller government. After seeing that, I was not aware that you took this particularly seriously.

    Considering the deathly silence towards the fiscal disaster he authored I have zero reason to believe otherwise. Dubya got plenty of criticism because of his overspending – and rightly so. Trump was graded on a curve when his fiscal record was even worse, much worse.

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  27. spaceman_spiff Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    One can legitimately criticize Trump for not making an effort to cut spending or reform entitlements, but the truth is, there is exactly zero appetite in Washington for either of those. Even “Deficit Hawk” Paul Ryan signed off on budget deals that gave Obama more spending than he had even asked for. It would have been a waste of political capital to even try. Although, securing the border would save the Government billions in services and welfare provided illegal immigrants and their anchor children.

    That said, however, the statement “None of his supporters wanted a smaller government – not a single one of them.” is a falsehood.

    Name one. Name a single supporter who criticized Trump for his overspending. Trump was consistently rewarded for disregarding entirely fiscal responsibility. If Obama and Trump had only been as spendthrift as Bush, we would have about $10 trillion dollars less debt today. Bush increased our debt by $5 trillion over 8 years. Obama and Trump increased it by almost $20 trillion over 12 years. Bush wasn’t all that terrific on this issue either but he looks like Coolidge compared to those two.

    As for it being a waste of political capital to even try to get our fiscal house in order, that only proves my point. Trump’s base did not care about this issue. Period.

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  28. Percival Thatcher
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    One can legitimately criticize Trump for not making an effort to cut spending or reform entitlements, but the truth is, there is exactly zero appetite in Washington for either of those. Even “Deficit Hawk” Paul Ryan signed off on budget deals that gave Obama more spending than he had even asked for. It would have been a waste of political capital to even try. Although, securing the border would save the Government billions in services and welfare provided illegal immigrants and their anchor children.

    That said, however, the statement “None of his supporters wanted a smaller government – not a single one of them.” is a falsehood.

    Name one. Name a single supporter who criticized Trump for his overspending. Trump was consistently rewarded for disregarding entirely fiscal responsibility. If Obama and Trump had only been as spendthrift as Bush, we would have about $10 trillion dollars less debt today. Bush increased our debt by $5 trillion over 8 years. Obama and Trump increased it by almost $20 trillion over 12 years. Bush wasn’t all that terrific on this issue either but he looks like Coolidge compared to those two.

    As for it being a waste of political capital to even try to get our fiscal house in order, that only proves my point. Trump’s base did not care about this issue. Period.

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  29. Django Member
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    One can legitimately criticize Trump for not making an effort to cut spending or reform entitlements, but the truth is, there is exactly zero appetite in Washington for either of those. Even “Deficit Hawk” Paul Ryan signed off on budget deals that gave Obama more spending than he had even asked for. It would have been a waste of political capital to even try. Although, securing the border would save the Government billions in services and welfare provided illegal immigrants and their anchor children.

    That said, however, the statement “None of his supporters wanted a smaller government – not a single one of them.” is a falsehood.

    Name one. Name a single supporter who criticized Trump for his overspending. Trump was consistently rewarded for disregarding entirely fiscal responsibility. If Obama and Trump had only been as spendthrift as Bush, we would have about $10 trillion dollars less debt today. Bush increased our debt by $5 trillion over 8 years. Obama and Trump increased it by almost $20 trillion over 12 years. Bush wasn’t all that terrific on this issue either but he looks like Coolidge compared to those two.

    As for it being a waste of political capital to even try to get our fiscal house in order, that only proves my point. Trump’s base did not care about this issue. Period.

    One year, Trump provided a defense of his budget. That is something he would not have had to do if there had been no criticism. To him, it was a matter of priorities. He wanted to re-build the military and he couldn’t get any support unless the budget included a lot of wasteful Democrat spending. Parenthetically, I’ll admit that few branches of the government can waste money the way the military does. He swore that he would never again sign a budget like that. He also admitted that few in the electorate were concerned about government spending. Would he have done better in his second term? I don’t know. 

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  30. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Both Ron Paul and Rand Paul have been saying this out loud for a long time.

    But then, they are libertarians.

    Donald Trump has been suggesting this is the case as well.

    Glad to see a Republican is finally aboard.

    In the very near future, may some more party members indicate the possibility of not needing spinal column replacements.

    I missed the part where Trump was against massive spending. He was NOT a champion for smaller government. None of his supporters wanted a smaller government – not a single one of them. Not only was he the biggest spending president we ever had until Biden came along but he also made farmers even more dependent on government handouts. Before he was even elected he campaigned AGAINST ending the ethanol mandate. Because of his tariffs and China’s response he felt the need to bail out soybean farmers. He also was against entitlement reform. And his supporters look the other way from his profligacy all the while pretending they care about the fiscal train wreck. Republicans office holders are not going to care about these things until you care about them first.

    The Federal budgets that he signed off on were known to be over-inflated. Did we really need so much defense spending when the defense side of things increased so much under the eight years of Pres Obama? How is it that every successive president declares the military needs “re-modernization.”?

    He also had a problem with being process oriented. Sometimes he had a good idea, but execution of a good idea can mean everything.

    Your example of soybean tariffs and then his bailing out the soybean farmers is just one example of that.

     

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