Journalists: Fairness Is Overrated

 

Not that long ago, journalists would get offended if they were accused of presenting the news with a liberal bias. Now, they are publicly stating that “fairness is overrated.” A Los Angeles Times reporter recently wrote an op-ed in which she stated that the extreme views of Republicans mean that they are not a serious party and should not be taken seriously: “This is a Republican Party that is not serious about governing or addressing the nation’s actual problems, as opposed to faux ones like critical race theory … Democrats can’t be expected to deal with these guys like they’re on the level. Nor should journalists cover them as if they are.”

Journalists and others from all over the country chimed in with their hearty agreement. Bill Buzenberg wrote: “Great Op Ed — important message for every journalist. (NPR and PBS this includes you). Please don’t ‘balance’ the truth with an outright, calculated lie, and call it objective reporting or interviewing.” NBC anchorman Lester Holt said, “I think it’s become clear that fairness is overrated … The idea that we should always give two sides equal weight and merit does not reflect the world we find ourselves in.”

These aren’t whacked-out stoners in a California commune. These are mainstream journalists. And these journalists not only find their coverage to be insufficiently unfair to Republicans, they are openly stating that “fairness is overrated.” Our news media and our educational system are the most powerful force for leftist indoctrination in our country, in my view. It sounds like journalists agree with me. And it sounds like they’re happy about it.

I wonder why they tried to hide their beliefs for so long? And I wonder why they’ve stopped trying to hide them now? I find their newfound boldness to be concerning. They seem to think they are in complete control and no longer need to hide behind a veil of objectivity. I think they’re probably right.

I hope we’re both wrong.

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  1. aardo vozz Member
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    Apparently, these days journalism is also overrated.🤔

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  2. Bob Thompson Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    A narcissism pandemic

    I really like this.

    • #32
  3. Hoyacon Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    Skipping over the obvious question of how anyone this dumb landed a job at a major paper, the question then becomes why we would want anyone this dumb deciding what we should and should not see/hear in terms of coverage.

    Dumb but articulate people are like radios that one pick up only one station. They have no clue how much they are missing so can speak with confidence and even passion about the little they know and this make great cable TV speakers. The possibility of being wrong, the fact that people have a wide range of opinions and experiences, and the difficulty of identifying truly insightful authors and thinkers is all just too hard and does not guarantee good ratings anyway.

    The extent to which early exposure to mass media and a continuing usage of media has made unintelligent people “articulate” is a favorite theme of mine.  When I was a young person walking 10 miles to school in the snow,  you could pretty much tell who was dumb because they were inarticulate.  No more.  Now people can at least sound smart without being so.  In fact, that’s pretty much what cable news is about.

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: I wonder why they tried to hide their beliefs for so long? And I wonder why they’ve stopped trying to hide them now?

    In 1969 the Supreme Court upheld the Constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine based on the argument of scarcity of spectrum. When the Doctrine went away the attitude did not. Broadcasters took great pride in being broadcasters, as opposed to those cable guys with their bias screamfests.

    The internet and the fractionalization of the media has put an end to that. Everyone is liberated to pursue their own narrow constituencies.

    Except our side.  Our side must be shut down for promulgating “misinformation.”

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  5. Gossamer Cat Coolidge
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    Modern journalism appears to be based on the conceit that the journalist already has it right by virtue of an enlightened Twitter feed, does not need any other perspective, and that most viewers/readers/listeners are vile morons anyway.  Ironically, the more one strikes the pose of the highly enlightened journalist the more likely the finished product will be a shallow, lazy, inferior product fit for dummies–and receive favorable retweets.

    That is a great analysis and, as this misguided editorial and its reactions show, most likely spot on.  The Party that has made a fetish out of pronouns and birthing people thinks that they are the “serious party”?

    • #35
  6. Manny Coolidge
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    Journalists: Fairness is Overrated 

    Fairness: Journalists are Overrated. FIFY. 

    • #36
  7. Henry Racette Member
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    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    Modern journalism appears to be based on the conceit that the journalist already has it right by virtue of an enlightened Twitter feed, does not need any other perspective, and that most viewers/readers/listeners are vile morons anyway. Ironically, the more one strikes the pose of the highly enlightened journalist the more likely the finished product will be a shallow, lazy, inferior product fit for dummies–and receive favorable retweets.

    That is a great analysis and, as this misguided editorial and its reactions show, most likely spot on. The Party that has made a fetish out of pronouns and birthing people thinks that they are the “serious party”?

    That’s a litmus test question I occasionally ask people before discussing politics: Do you think that boys can have babies? Depending on the answer, sometimes preemptively agreeing to disagree is simply more productive.

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  8. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    Let’s turn the issue around and try to justify the lack of objectivity.

    Are lying and a lack of objectivity the same thing?

    I would say no. The truly insidious part of biased coverage is often that the persons involved do not realize that they are deviating from truth because of their belief system. I’m sure some lie and know they’re lying for ratings, but I think the majority are just blind.

    I think the most pernicious part may be what the MSM chooses not to cover. As used to be said about the NYT, if you didn’t read it (here), it didn’t happen.

    Now I assume if I read it in the NYT it didn’t happen.  

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  9. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    Skipping over the obvious question of how anyone this dumb landed a job at a major paper, the question then becomes why we would want anyone this dumb deciding what we should and should not see/hear in terms of coverage.

    Dumb but articulate people are like radios that one pick up only one station. They have no clue how much they are missing so can speak with confidence and even passion about the little they know and this make great cable TV speakers. The possibility of being wrong, the fact that people have a wide range of opinions and experiences, and the difficulty of identifying truly insightful authors and thinkers is all just too hard and does not guarantee good ratings anyway.

    The extent to which early exposure to mass media and a continuing usage of media has made unintelligent people “articulate” is a favorite theme of mine. When I was a young person walking 10 miles to school in the snow, you could pretty much tell who was dumb because they were inarticulate. No more. Now people can at least sound smart without being so. In fact, that’s pretty much what cable news is about.

    Listen to Mayor Pete for an example.  Cleverness is not competence.  

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  10. Percival Thatcher
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    Skipping over the obvious question of how anyone this dumb landed a job at a major paper, the question then becomes why we would want anyone this dumb deciding what we should and should not see/hear in terms of coverage.

    Dumb but articulate people are like radios that one pick up only one station. They have no clue how much they are missing so can speak with confidence and even passion about the little they know and this make great cable TV speakers. The possibility of being wrong, the fact that people have a wide range of opinions and experiences, and the difficulty of identifying truly insightful authors and thinkers is all just too hard and does not guarantee good ratings anyway.

     

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    Modern journalism appears to be based on the conceit that the journalist already has it right by virtue of an enlightened Twitter feed, does not need any other perspective, and that most viewers/readers/listeners are vile morons anyway. Ironically, the more one strikes the pose of the highly enlightened journalist the more likely the finished product will be a shallow, lazy, inferior product fit for dummies–and receive favorable retweets.

    That is a great analysis and, as this misguided editorial and its reactions show, most likely spot on. The Party that has made a fetish out of pronouns and birthing people thinks that they are the “serious party”?

    That’s a litmus test question I occasionally ask people before discussing politics: Do you think that boys can have babies? Depending on the answer, sometimes preemptively agreeing to disagree is simply more productive.

    • #41
  12. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    Story selection is the biggest bias – Hunter started his “Business” antics when Biden was  VP. Corporate/DC Media didn’t report on this because it would hurt the Obama Admin (remember, Kerry’s step son was Hunter’s Business partner(

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  13. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
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    Doc, I have a thought about this.  There may be two categories of journalists involved.

    Your hypothesis is that Left-leaning journalists have been pretending to be neutral, and have recently decided to stop doing so.  There are probably some people in this category, perhaps most or all of them.

    Another possibility is that some Left-leaning journalists have actually believed that they were neutral, and have recently discovered that they are not, and then decided to abandon neutrality rather than change their coverage.  There may be some people in this category.

    Different people may have different motivations, too, whether or not they are in one category on the other.  I’m going to mention some possibilities.

    One obvious possibility is financial interest.  There has to be a Latin phrase for this.  Cui bono?  Not exactly.  My Latin is no good.  Ollow-fay the oney-may.  Maybe there’s more money in partisan journalism.  It may be that journalists are tightly controlled by the networks and newspapers, and are getting their marching orders from their corporate masters.  This does seem consistent with the recent treatment of Chris Matthews, Sharyl Attkisson, and Bari Weiss.  On the other hand, many journalists may have the same financial incentives as their employers, and may be quite willing to go along.

    Among those who have always been partisan but, until recently, have been consciously pretending to be neutral, two possibilities occur to me.  First, they may have realized that they can no longer maintain the charade, which only works while their promotion of the Left and denigration of the Right remains subtle.  Second, they may have made a conscious decision that the charade was more effective in the past, but open partisanship will be more effective in the present.  They may, or may not, turn out to be right about this.

    These possibilities are very disturbing, especially in light of what little I know about data analytics and psychological manipulation.  The recent Facebook whistleblowers suggest that some very nefarious things may be going on behind the scenes.  Perhaps it’s not just at Facebook (if their charges are even true).

    Among any journalists who may have honestly believed that they were neutral, and have recently discovered that they are not, there could be a different motivation.  Such a person would have to choose between professional integrity and ideological interest.  There are bound to be some who would choose ideological interest.

    I think that there are some people who recognized their bias, and chosen to attempt objectivity.  Dave Rubin comes to mind, and Bret Weinstein (though he didn’t start as a journalist, and is now a sort of hybrid journalist/scientist/professor-in-exile).

     

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  14. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Doc, I have a thought about this. There may be two categories of journalists involved.

    Your hypothesis is that Left-leaning journalists have been pretending to be neutral, and have recently decided to stop doing so. There are probably some people in this category, perhaps most or all of them.

    Another possibility is that some Left-leaning journalists have actually believed that they were neutral, and have recently discovered that they are not, and then decided to abandon neutrality rather than change their coverage. There may be some people in this category.

    Different people may have different motivations, too, whether or not they are in one category on the other. I’m going to mention some possibilities.

    One obvious possibility is financial interest. There has to be a Latin phrase for this. Cui bono? Not exactly. My Latin is no good. Ollow-fay the oney-may. Maybe there’s more money in partisan journalism. It may be that journalists are tightly controlled by the networks and newspapers, and are getting their marching orders from their corporate masters. This does seem consistent with the recent treatment of Chris Matthews, Sharyl Attkisson, and Bari Weiss. On the other hand, many journalists may have the same financial incentives as their employers, and may be quite willing to go along.

    Among those who have always been partisan but, until recently, have been consciously pretending to be neutral, two possibilities occur to me. First, they may have realized that they can no longer maintain the charade, which only works while their promotion of the Left and denigration of the Right remains subtle. Second, they may have made a conscious decision that the charade was more effective in the past, but open partisanship will be more effective in the present. They may, or may not, turn out to be right about this.

    These possibilities are very disturbing, especially in light of what little I know about data analytics and psychological manipulation. The recent Facebook whistleblowers suggest that some very nefarious things may be going on behind the scenes. Perhaps it’s not just at Facebook (if their charges are even true).

    Among any journalists who may have honestly believed that they were neutral, and have recently discovered that they are not, there could be a different motivation. Such a person would have to choose between professional integrity and ideological interest. There are bound to be some who would choose ideological interest.

    I think that there are some people who recognized their bias, and chosen to attempt objectivity. Dave Rubin comes to mind, and Bret Weinstein (though he didn’t start as a journalist, and is now a sort of hybrid journalist/scientist/professor-in-exile).

     

    It could be that they are just all evil. 

    Anyone advocating for the silencing of others because they don’t like what they have to say is evil. Anyone. Anytime. Period. 

     

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  15. Roderic Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat: These aren’t whacked-out stoners in a California commune. These are mainstream journalists. And these journalists not only find their coverage to be insufficiently unfair to Republicans, they are openly stating that “fairness is overrated.”

    In other words, they are bigots and they think everyone should be a bigot.  They think everyone should be obligated to treat their opponents unfairly, to misrepresent and lie about them.

    They are bigots and ought to be treated as such.

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  16. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
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    Guys, I want to put two of these comments side-by-side (my emphasis added):

    Spin (View Comment):

    The answer here comes via my good friend, “Lefty Dave”, who says “The entire Republican Party has lost it’s [expletive] mind.” Now, I push back on Lefty Dave all the time on this score. He thinks that the Republican party has become the Cult of Donald Trump, that serves only it Soulless Master. He’s wrong. But if you believed that, and you were a journalist, wouldn’t you agree with the reporter above who says there’s no reason to give Republicans any fair play?

    Let me be clear here: I am NOT saying this is the fault of Trump. Nor Trump supporters. The media is all too eager to find any reason whatsoever to consider the right, generally, as irrelevant.

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    . . .

    That’s a litmus test question I occasionally ask people before discussing politics: Do you think that boys can have babies? Depending on the answer, sometimes preemptively agreeing to disagree is simply more productive.

    This seems to say it all, to me.  The members of the party that insists that boys can have babies think that the other party has lost it’s mind.

     

    • #46
  17. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    Holt’s a dolt, a TV news reader.  A peat muppet, if you will.

    So stop watching them.  Tens of millions have.  You don’t need them, they need you.

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  18. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    @ChrisCampion

    Also, I have a question for Intrepid News Reporter Lester Holt:  If you’re a reporter, why didn’t you report on Matt Lauer?

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  19. RufusRJones Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    These possibilities are very disturbing, especially in light of what little I know about data analytics and psychological manipulation.

    If they were doing this separate from the fact that the public square is 99% controlled by four tech companies that would be one thing. That is not the situation. The Constitution cannot function as intended given all of this.

    Too many Never Trump are naïve about this.

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  20. RufusRJones Member
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    I am partway through this, and I intend to listen to it again.

    On this episode of The Federalist Radio Hour, Federalist Managing Editor Madeline Osburn joins Culture Editor Emily Jashinsky to discuss CNN’s Brian Stelter and his recent tone-deaf response to Bari Weiss’s real concerns about cancel culture and corporate media agenda-setting.

    https://ricochet.com/podcast/federalist-radio-hour/demystifying-brian-stelter/

     

    Edit: listening further in, the accurate way to describe it is the media and the various institutions are controlled by cultural leftists. That is the over arching discussion. The description doesn’t reflect that.

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  21. RufusRJones Member
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    You can’t make this up.

     

     

     

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  22. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    You can’t make this up.

     

     

     

    Wow.  That really is remarkable.

    Imagine how the Washington Post tweet would have been different if Donald Trump had been president during the “short-staffed stores and supply chain woes” they mentioned…

    • #52
  23. RufusRJones Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    You can’t make this up.

     

     

     

     

    Wow. That really is remarkable.

    Imagine how the Washington Post tweet would have been different if Donald Trump had been president during the “short-staffed stores and supply chain woes” they mentioned…

    The Washington post is owned by Jeff Bezos. 

    I’m not sure I want to get into a big argument about this right now, but Jeff Bezos is excessively rich primarily because of bad financial regulation. Now he owns the media and the government. 

    Act accordingly.

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  24. Old Bathos Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    The Washington post is owned by Jeff Bezos. 

    I’m not sure I want to get into a big argument about this right now, but Jeff Bezos is excessively rich primarily because of bad financial regulation. Now he owns the media and the government. 

    Act accordingly.

    Wait till all federal operations and documents reside on cloud servers owned by Jeff “Milo Mindbender” Bezos (already happening BTW).  Imagine the fate of memos or emails about antitrust issues… tax avoidance… environmental issues… labor practices… I can’t file that pleading, Dave…. 404.

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  25. RufusRJones Member
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  26. Full Size Tabby Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    You can’t make this up.

     

     

     

    Just this morning our regular waitress at the diner rattled off quite the list of supplies the restaurant can’t get. A local radio talk host commented that she couldn’t get coffee at a gas station convenience store a few days ago because the store couldn’t get the cups into which to dispense the coffee. 

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  27. I Walton Member
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    Thats the way people are, and why top down politics cant and has never worked for long except fo an ever narrowing group, and the larger the nation the quicker the failure.  If we ever liberate ourselves from these inept totalitarians, we’ll have to make some radical changes.

     

     

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  28. RufusRJones Member
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    Another great mind that will never appear on Ricochet lol

     

     

     

     

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  29. RufusRJones Member
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  30. Old Bathos Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

     

     

     

     

    Somebody should count the number of times this message gets recycled on CNN.  By Friday, anybody who complains about this latest joyous aspect of Bidenomics will be deemed a traitor.

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