Fraudci-lent ‘Science’

 

justice and COVID-19The Hill story promoting Fraudci’s latest line caught my eye. Consider the following, and the related story on the FDA advisory panel’s entirely unscientific conduct. Scientific study, we don’t need no stinkin’ studies! This is Fraudci-lent “science.”

ABC’s Martha Raddatz asked Fauci on “This Week” if the millions of Americans who received the Johnson & Johnson (J&J) COVID-19 vaccine should be concerned after a Food and Drug Administration (FDA) advisory committee voted unanimously to recommend adults receive a booster shot of the vaccine.

“No, not at all, Martha. I think that they should feel good about it because what the advisers to the FDA felt is that, given the data that they saw, very likely this should have been a two-dose vaccine to begin with,” Fauci said.

[ . . . ]

Last week, an FDA advisory committee met to vote on whether to recommend Americans receive a booster shot of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. The FDA, which had to rely on data provided by the vaccine maker given that trial data had not been provided to the agency in time, decided to vote on recommending it despite the sample size of 17 people.

Wait, what? A “sample” size of 17 people is the basis of a so-called scientific recommendation from the Food and Drug Administration. That is fraud, it is science fantasy, not evidence-based medicine. Here are the details of the FDA’s Johnson & Johnson shot shenanigans:

The agency’s vaccine advisory committee voted unanimously, 19-0, to recommend authorization of a second dose as early as two months after the primary shot for anyone ages 18 and older.

Johnson & Johnson representatives told the panel that a second dose given either two months or six months after the first shot increased antibody levels, but a single dose of the vaccine continued to offer protection.

The recommendation, which is not binding, will now be taken up by the FDA, which could make a decision within days.

Committee members expressed concern with the quality of data presented by the company, because there were ultimately only 17 people included in an analysis, who were followed for six months.

The FDA said it relied heavily on studies conducted by Johnson & Johnson and could not independently confirm many of the findings because data from the trials were not submitted in time.

Archana Chatterjee, an infectious disease expert at Rosalind Franklin University, asked FDA officials why there was even a meeting if the agency hadn’t been able to conduct its own studies.

Peter Marks, the head of the agency’s vaccine division, said it could have taken months to review all the data, and the agency is trying to act as quickly as possible.

Whatever you think of vaccinations in general, and COVID-19 vaccinations more narrowly, and the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine in particular, these two stories and the actions of the FDA must be disquieting.

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  1. Saint Augustine Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Here’s Molnupiravir: https://c19mp.com/

    Don’t make me flag you. I know that’s not a proper word. I’m sure it’s a cuss word.

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  2. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Here’s Molnupiravir: https://c19mp.com/

    Don’t make me flag you. I know that’s not a proper word. I’m sure it’s a cuss word.

    It’s a secret cuss word, like “Let’s go, Brandon.” It really means [Redacted] [Redacted] your [Redacted] with a [Redacted] in the [Redacted].

     

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  3. The Reticulator Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):
    He co-authored a paper on HCQ obliterating corona viruses in 2005.

    I wonder if there really is such a study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/

    Fauci is not an author on that paper.

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  4. Sandy Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):
    He co-authored a paper on HCQ obliterating corona viruses in 2005.

    I wonder if there really is such a study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/

    Fauci is not an author on that paper.

    No but the lead author was with the CDC. You can be pretty sure that Fauci knew all this, as did the CDC, of course. 

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  5. Old Bathos Member
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    Sandy (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):
    He co-authored a paper on HCQ obliterating corona viruses in 2005.

    I wonder if there really is such a study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/

    Fauci is not an author on that paper.

    No but the lead author was with the CDC. You can be pretty sure that Fauci knew all this, as did the CDC, of course.

    I doubt Fauci reads anything that is (a) not newsworthy or (b) not likely to be a concern to congressional oversight/appropriations figures.  I suspect he has been reading summaries of summaries prepared by staff for the last 20 years.

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  6. The Reticulator Member
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    Sandy (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):
    He co-authored a paper on HCQ obliterating corona viruses in 2005.

    I wonder if there really is such a study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/

    Fauci is not an author on that paper.

    No but the lead author was with the CDC. You can be pretty sure that Fauci knew all this, as did the CDC, of course.

    Fauci is not an author on that paper, and one cannot legitimately claim he co-authored the paper.  And no, I can’t be pretty sure Fauci knew all “this,” whatever “this” means.  In any case, it was a bad study because its choice of cell culture.  But I would have no reason to expect that Fauci keeps up with everything published by people associated with the CDC, as it happens.

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  7. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):
    He co-authored a paper on HCQ obliterating corona viruses in 2005.

    I wonder if there really is such a study.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/

    Fauci is not an author on that paper.

    No but the lead author was with the CDC. You can be pretty sure that Fauci knew all this, as did the CDC, of course.

    Fauci is not an author on that paper, and one cannot legitimately claim he co-authored the paper. And no, I can’t be pretty sure Fauci knew all “this,” whatever “this” means. In any case, it was a bad study because its choice of cell culture. But I would have no reason to expect that Fauci keeps up with everything published by people associated with the CDC, as it happens.

    None of which in any way affects the claims of the OP. Here’s the thing: Fraudci earned that sobriquet through his publicly observable conduct since January 2020. No need to go down rabbit holes or ride hobby horses.

    AND.

    I do not accept that Fraudci or the front man for the CDC may not be charged with constructive knowledge of all government and major professional publications/ studies touching on what they were peddling as the second coming of the Black Death. Actual, willful “ignorance” is no excuse for them.

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  8. The Reticulator Member
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    None of which in any way affects the claims of the OP. Here’s the thing: Fraudci earned that sobriquet through his publicly observable conduct since January 2020. No need to go down rabbit holes or ride hobby horses.

    AND.

    I do not accept that Fraudci or the front man for the CDC may not be charged with constructive knowledge of all government and major professional publications/ studies touching on what they were peddling as the second coming of the Black Death. Actual, willful “ignorance” is no excuse for them.

    People who keep saying they’re not going to believe the government because the government lied to them ought to be concerned when one of their own claims Fauci was a co-author on a paper he did not co-author. Should I write off the whole anti-Fauci movement because of that?  

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  9. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    People who keep saying they’re not going to believe the government because the government lied to them ought to be concerned when one of their own claims Fauci was a co-author on a paper he did not co-author. Should I write off the whole anti-Fauci movement because of that?  

    No. You should embrace the anti-Fauci movement, because the man is an international menace who must be stopped by any means necessary, and all his works destroyed.

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

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    People who keep saying they’re not going to believe the government because the government lied to them ought to be concerned when one of their own claims Fauci was a co-author on a paper he did not co-author. Should I write off the whole anti-Fauci movement because of that?

    No. You should embrace the anti-Fauci movement, because the man is an international menace who must be stopped by any means necessary, and all his works destroyed.

    So I should be like Katie Couric and suppress or tailor the information to support my side and defeat my enemies?  

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  11. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    People who keep saying they’re not going to believe the government because the government lied to them ought to be concerned when one of their own claims Fauci was a co-author on a paper he did not co-author. Should I write off the whole anti-Fauci movement because of that?

    No. You should embrace the anti-Fauci movement, because the man is an international menace who must be stopped by any means necessary, and all his works destroyed.

    So I should be like Katie Couric and suppress or tailor the information to support my side and defeat my enemies?

    You know, at this point, whatever it takes.

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  12. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

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    People who keep saying they’re not going to believe the government because the government lied to them ought to be concerned when one of their own claims Fauci was a co-author on a paper he did not co-author. Should I write off the whole anti-Fauci movement because of that?

    No. You should embrace the anti-Fauci movement, because the man is an international menace who must be stopped by any means necessary, and all his works destroyed.

    So I should be like Katie Couric and suppress or tailor the information to support my side and defeat my enemies?

    You know, at this point, whatever it takes.

    Not one stone, and lots of salt.

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  13. The Reticulator Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

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    People who keep saying they’re not going to believe the government because the government lied to them ought to be concerned when one of their own claims Fauci was a co-author on a paper he did not co-author. Should I write off the whole anti-Fauci movement because of that?

    No. You should embrace the anti-Fauci movement, because the man is an international menace who must be stopped by any means necessary, and all his works destroyed.

    So I should be like Katie Couric and suppress or tailor the information to support my side and defeat my enemies?

    You know, at this point, whatever it takes.

    Even assassination?   I don’t think you mean that. And getting rid of Fauci wouldn’t fix the problem, anyway, though it doesn’t hurt to draw attention to the public face of the problem.

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  14. The Reticulator Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    though it doesn’t hurt to draw attention to the public face of the problem.

    Alinsky recommended something like this.

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  15. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    though it doesn’t hurt to draw attention to the public face of the problem.

    Alinsky recommended something like this.

    Yes, and actually, no kidding, for real, holding the most highly paid federal employee, paid even more than the President, personally and professionally accountable is absolutely necessary.

    Fraudci is going to get to retire on the hard earned dollars of those harmed by him. He is the face of all that is wrong with the unconstitutional fourth branch of government. Republicans, running to replace RepubliCAN’Ts and Democratic Socialists, must promise to use the Congress to strip him of immunity from civil suit. He must be personally crushed, exposed to private lawsuits that can reduce him to poverty.

    Bureaucrats must be made to fear, really fear, the American people as their masters. The civilized way is to sue the bastards. I wrote at the beginning of this plandemic that Fauci should be given the choice of forfeiting his salary until the “emergency” imposed on Americans was declared ended or being fired. I got push back from people claiming Fauci was a great and good man. In fact, he was nothing of the kind, and had not been such for decades, if ever.

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  16. The Reticulator Member
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    though it doesn’t hurt to draw attention to the public face of the problem.

    Alinsky recommended something like this.

    Yes, and actually, no kidding, for real, holding the most highly paid federal employee, paid even more than the President, personally and professionally accountable is absolutely necessary.

    Fraudci is going to get to retire on the hard earned dollars of those harmed by him. He is the face of all that is wrong with the unconstitutional fourth branch of government. Republicans, running to replace RepubliCAN’Ts and Democratic Socialists, must promise to use the Congress to strip him of immunity from civil suit. He must be personally crushed, exposed to private lawsuits that can reduce him to poverty.

    Bureaucrats must be made to fear, really fear, the American people as their masters. The civilized way is to sue the bastards. I wrote at the beginning of this plandemic that Fauci should be given the choice of forfeiting his salary until the “emergency” imposed on Americans was declared ended or being fired. I got push back from people claiming Fauci was a great and good man. In fact, he was nothing of the kind, and had not been such for decades, if ever.

    That brings up an important topic. It may already have been discussed here, but if so, I haven’t kept up.   We keep seeing one kind of regulatory failure after another, in the VA, in the NIH, in the DOJ, etc., but nobody ever gets punished. Some might get demoted or reassigned, but there are no sufficiently severe consequences for anyone who makes a bad mistake or who abuses the system, or who protects someone else who does.  

    So does Fauci actually have some kind of immunity?  If so, that maybe points to the path for large scale reform of our administrative and regulatory system.

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  17. Full Size Tabby Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

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    though it doesn’t hurt to draw attention to the public face of the problem.

    Alinsky recommended something like this.

    Yes, and actually, no kidding, for real, holding the most highly paid federal employee, paid even more than the President, personally and professionally accountable is absolutely necessary.

    Fraudci is going to get to retire on the hard earned dollars of those harmed by him. He is the face of all that is wrong with the unconstitutional fourth branch of government. Republicans, running to replace RepubliCAN’Ts and Democratic Socialists, must promise to use the Congress to strip him of immunity from civil suit. He must be personally crushed, exposed to private lawsuits that can reduce him to poverty.

    Bureaucrats must be made to fear, really fear, the American people as their masters. The civilized way is to sue the bastards. I wrote at the beginning of this plandemic that Fauci should be given the choice of forfeiting his salary until the “emergency” imposed on Americans was declared ended or being fired. I got push back from people claiming Fauci was a great and good man. In fact, he was nothing of the kind, and had not been such for decades, if ever.

    That brings up an important topic. It may already have been discussed here, but if so, I haven’t kept up. We keep seeing one kind of regulatory failure after another, in the VA, in the NIH, in the DOJ, etc., but nobody ever gets punished. Some might get demoted or reassigned, but there are no sufficiently severe consequences for anyone who makes a bad mistake or who abuses the system, or who protects someone else who does.

    So does Fauci actually have some kind of immunity? If so, that maybe points to the path for large scale reform of our administrative and regulatory system.

    This is a significant issue with respect to government employees. The civil service system provides strong protection for employees. The original purpose was to protect employees from the political whims of the politicians. Which many decades ago was a real concern. But more recently the tables have been turned. The first turn was that the system protected incompetent government employees. Now the system protects overtly political employees, including employees who usurp the police power of the politicians elected by the people. 

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  18. Sandy Member
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    Is Fauci not an appointee?  He has built an empire and I think he is still there because there are people who want him there. 

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  19. Old Bathos Member
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    Is Fauci not an appointee? He has built an empire and I think he is still there because there are people who want him there.

    The number of people in labs located in many congressional districts who got funded by Don Tony over the years can be called upon to write to the PTB to say that he is an indispensable man when the time comes.  My acquaintances who have worked at NIH say he is beloved for his ability to keep the spigots open. 

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  20. The Reticulator Member
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    Is Fauci not an appointee? He has built an empire and I think he is still there because there are people who want him there.

    The number of people in labs located in many congressional districts who got funded by Don Tony over the years can be called upon to write to the PTB to say that he is an indispensable man when the time comes. My acquaintances who have worked at NIH say he is beloved for his ability to keep the spigots open.

    I don’t have the specific information you do, but that is how the administrative state works. That’s why it’s called the Deep State.  (Yes, I realize other people use that term for those agencies that do spying and under cover work.)

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  21. Old Bathos Member
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    Is Fauci not an appointee? He has built an empire and I think he is still there because there are people who want him there.

    The number of people in labs located in many congressional districts who got funded by Don Tony over the years can be called upon to write to the PTB to say that he is an indispensable man when the time comes. My acquaintances who have worked at NIH say he is beloved for his ability to keep the spigots open.

    I don’t have the specific information you do, but that is how the administrative state works. That’s why it’s called the Deep State. (Yes, I realize other people use that term for those agencies that do spying and under cover work.)

    Money giveaways are only half of the pleasure-pain system of expanding statism. The more regulatory agencies cause pain the more the victims have to seek protection and suck up to and contribute to members of Congress who empower the agencies either by enabling legislation or a refusal to amend and clarify statues abused by agencies. Giveaways and blackmail is also how Hamas operates.

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  22. The Reticulator Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

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    Is Fauci not an appointee? He has built an empire and I think he is still there because there are people who want him there.

    The number of people in labs located in many congressional districts who got funded by Don Tony over the years can be called upon to write to the PTB to say that he is an indispensable man when the time comes. My acquaintances who have worked at NIH say he is beloved for his ability to keep the spigots open.

    I don’t have the specific information you do, but that is how the administrative state works. That’s why it’s called the Deep State. (Yes, I realize other people use that term for those agencies that do spying and under cover work.)

    Money giveaways are only half of the pleasure-pain system of expanding statism. The more regulatory agencies cause pain the more the victims have to seek protection and suck up to and contribute to members of Congress who empower the agencies either by enabling legislation or a refusal to amend and clarify statues abused by agencies. Giveaways and blackmail is also how Hamas operates.

    One other aspect of this is that Members of Congress are usually motivated to tread lightly around the regulatory agencies.  Sure, the agencies may be corrupt and abusive, but Members of Congress  don’t dare to defund the abuses, because they need the regulatory agencies to be nice to them when trying to perform constituent services to please the Republicans (or Democrats) back home. In my own county, those who voted to censure Rep. Peter Meijer for his impeachment vote also appreciate that he is able to work with the regulatory/funding agencies when the county needs help.  Would Meijer be able to “go to work for his constituents” in this way if he made himself odious to the regulatory/funding agencies?  It’s a question I want to ask Meijer in person if there is ever an opportunity.  

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  23. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    People who keep saying they’re not going to believe the government because the government lied to them ought to be concerned when one of their own claims Fauci was a co-author on a paper he did not co-author. Should I write off the whole anti-Fauci movement because of that?

    No. You should embrace the anti-Fauci movement, because the man is an international menace who must be stopped by any means necessary, and all his works destroyed.

    So I should be like Katie Couric and suppress or tailor the information to support my side and defeat my enemies?

    You know, at this point, whatever it takes.

    Even assassination? I don’t think you mean that. And getting rid of Fauci wouldn’t fix the problem, anyway, though it doesn’t hurt to draw attention to the public face of the problem.

    Looks like puppy torture is going to bring him down. “Whatever it takes” apparently includes puppy torture.

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  24. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    In my own county, those who voted to censure Rep. Peter Meijer for his impeachment vote also appreciate that he is able to work with the regulatory/funding agencies when the county needs help.  Would Meijer be able to “go to work for his constituents” in this way if he made himself odious to the regulatory/funding agencies?  It’s a question I want to ask Meijer in person if there is ever an opportunity.  

    Is there any evidence that he works for the people? Or is he working for himself?

    The revolving door between Congress and K Street needs to be locked, . . . somehow.

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  25. WillowSpring Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    Our doctor, however, who is no pushover by any means, strongly encouraged us to get the booster.

    Do you really think your doctor will give you his own opinion?  I am not being argumentative, but our old country doctor – that I would have trusted – retired several years ago and our new doctors are part of a much greater conglomerate.  I think my doctor will recommend what her higher ups will say, and they will recommend what CDC says.  And I don’t trust them.

    I read today that the vote on the J&J 2nd dosage was approved 19-0 by the CDC based on data from J&J which used a 6 month test of 17 subjects with no control group.

    I think we are pretty much on our own, but there is a lot of contradictory data.

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  26. The Reticulator Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

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    In my own county, those who voted to censure Rep. Peter Meijer for his impeachment vote also appreciate that he is able to work with the regulatory/funding agencies when the county needs help. Would Meijer be able to “go to work for his constituents” in this way if he made himself odious to the regulatory/funding agencies? It’s a question I want to ask Meijer in person if there is ever an opportunity.

    Is there any evidence that he works for the people? Or is he working for himself?

    That’s not really the issue. There is plenty of evidence that he is working for the people of his district, which will help him get re-elected. It’s a corrupt process.

    The revolving door between Congress and K Street needs to be locked, . . . somehow.

    That’s a problem but it’s irrelevant to this problem.

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  27. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

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    In my own county, those who voted to censure Rep. Peter Meijer for his impeachment vote also appreciate that he is able to work with the regulatory/funding agencies when the county needs help. Would Meijer be able to “go to work for his constituents” in this way if he made himself odious to the regulatory/funding agencies? It’s a question I want to ask Meijer in person if there is ever an opportunity.

    Is there any evidence that he works for the people? Or is he working for himself?

    That’s not really the issue.

    It is for me. I’ve come to loathe politicians. They promise everything to get elected, and then ignore those promises once safely in office.

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  28. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Our doctor, however, who is no pushover by any means, strongly encouraged us to get the booster.

    Do you really think your doctor will give you his own opinion? I am not being argumentative, but our old country doctor – that I would have trusted – retired several years ago and our new doctors are part of a much greater conglomerate. I think my doctor will recommend what her higher ups will say, and they will recommend what CDC says. And I don’t trust them.

    I read today that the vote on the J&J 2nd dosage was approved 19-0 by the CDC based on data from J&J which used a 6 month test of 17 subjects with no control group.

    I think we are pretty much on our own, but there is a lot of contradictory data.

    Correct. I no longer trust my doctor. He only repeats the company line. I’m looking for a new one.

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  29. Flicker Coolidge
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    People who keep saying they’re not going to believe the government because the government lied to them ought to be concerned when one of their own claims Fauci was a co-author on a paper he did not co-author. Should I write off the whole anti-Fauci movement because of that?

    No. You should embrace the anti-Fauci movement, because the man is an international menace who must be stopped by any means necessary, and all his works destroyed.

    So I should be like Katie Couric and suppress or tailor the information to support my side and defeat my enemies?

    You know, at this point, whatever it takes.

    Even assassination? I don’t think you mean that. And getting rid of Fauci wouldn’t fix the problem, anyway, though it doesn’t hurt to draw attention to the public face of the problem.

    Looks like puppy torture is going to bring him down. “Whatever it takes” apparently includes puppy torture.

    This is so Austin Powers.

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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    People who keep saying they’re not going to believe the government because the government lied to them ought to be concerned when one of their own claims Fauci was a co-author on a paper he did not co-author. Should I write off the whole anti-Fauci movement because of that?

    No. You should embrace the anti-Fauci movement, because the man is an international menace who must be stopped by any means necessary, and all his works destroyed.

    So I should be like Katie Couric and suppress or tailor the information to support my side and defeat my enemies?

    You know, at this point, whatever it takes.

    Even assassination? I don’t think you mean that. And getting rid of Fauci wouldn’t fix the problem, anyway, though it doesn’t hurt to draw attention to the public face of the problem.

    Looks like puppy torture is going to bring him down. “Whatever it takes” apparently includes puppy torture.

    This is so Austin Powers.

    Andrew Cuomo ordered people with diagnosed Covid-19 back into nursing homes that didn’t have the facilities to keep the patients isolated and the other residents safe. This may have led to as many as 15,000 additional deaths. That was a bad look, so he lied about the numbers.

    No problem. Nothing to see here, folks.

    But a few of his employees/associates accused him of inappropriate behavior, and he is gone in a couple of months.

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