Godzilla Philosophy, Godzilla Religion, and the Godzillas We Know and Love

 

Godzilla Singular Point Key Visual.jpgForget Squid Game. The Asian Netflix you need is Godzilla Singular Point.  Any show that has time travel, Godzilla, Walt Whitman, William Blake, the Bible, the Bhagavad-Gita, and the Daodejing is a winner in my book.

Warning: Godzilla spoilers follow!

Godzilla Singular Point

It’s not easy to understand what’s going on. I’ll just try to summarize the gist of some of the main points for you, and I can only hope I got them right myself:

Chemicals from outside our dimension have made their way into our dimension; they’re terraforming the planet, and they’re and spawning monsters. Fortunately, a doohickey called the Orthogonal Diagonalizer can stop them if we get the right code to program it. Unfortunately, that right code can only come from the future. Fortunately, these chemicals can also do just enough time travel that our AIs will be able to use them in the future to send messages to themselves now with the right code!

But also–monsters.  And religious references.  And English poetry.

It’s a winner.

I’d even say it’s better than GODZILLA: Planet of the Monsters and its two sequels.

But let’s talk about that.

A Recent Godzilla Trilogy

Godzilla anime design reveal.jpgThat one was pretty good, too–philosophically speaking.  It has some humans who have to make a choice.  The first movie rules out the option of defeating Godzilla easily.  That leaves just three options.

Option A is join the Bilusaludo aliens and become mechanical monsters in order to defeat Godzilla.  Transhumanism at its worst.  Bad idea.  The second film, City on the Edge of Battle, rules that one out.

Option B is to join the Exif aliens, who get a pretty impressive reveal as the worst and creepiest enemies of all–and just when they were looking like such comforting friends!

Exif religion is revealed as the purest nihilism, and the Exif act on their faith by summoning King Ghidorah, an interdimensional eater of planets, to destroy Godzilla–and earth with him!

Another bad idea.  The humans rule out that one in the third film, The Planet Eater.  That leaves them with just one option.  Option C is an ethics of acceptance, living in harmony with the natural world.  Let Godzilla own the earth.  Join the descendants of humanity, the Houtua.  No more dominating the planet.  Get rid of modern technology.  Make friends with Mothra. Breed with the Houtua.  And be content.

Option C, from what I can tell, is, more or less, some variety of Daoism.

Yeah, I know: You don’t like Daoism.  I’m not Daoist either.  I’m a Baptist

But given a choice between nihilism, transhumanism, and Daoism, I think this trilogy of Godzilla films makes the right choice.

And What About Those Fancy New Godzilla Movies from Hollywood?

Well, the monster fights are fun.  Setting up Godzilla as the ruler of the planet and as maybe a god of some sort isn’t exactly my cup of tea.  Maybe I’d feel better about it if the metaphysics were as well developed as in Planet of the Monsters and its sequels, where we’re at least led to believe that Godzilla represents the earth asserting itself against human abuse, where there’s no hint of a good G-d, and where there is King Ghidorah–a much, much worse god than Godzilla the defender of earth.

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In the new Hollywood movies, from what I can tell, all we have is a smattering of weird monster stuff without much of an account of the world to tie it all together.  All we know is: There’s a bunch of ancient monsters, and Godzilla is their rightful king for some reason, and the monsters are good for the environment, and Ghidorah is some kind of alien who’s bad.  Also, we can’t kill Godzilla, but he can kill or control the worse monsters, so apparently, now, “This is Godzilla’s world. We just live in it.”

And an “Oh my G**” line gets a “zilla” added on.

Ok. Whatever.

But the monster fights are fun.  And let them fight, says I!

Do you have a favorite Godzilla? Or a favorite Godzilla philosophy?

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  1. Percival Thatcher
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    @Percival

    They’ve got an Orthogonal Diagonalizer? That’s it for the monster team, then.

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  2. Jules PA Member
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Percival (View Comment):

    They’ve got an Orthogonal Diagonalizer? That’s it for the monster team, then.

    I bet their teeth are crooked. 🤣

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  3. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Most Monster Island problems can be solved through the proper application of pokeballs.  

    • #3
  4. DonG (CAGW is a hoax) Coolidge
    DonG (CAGW is a hoax)
    @DonG

    I watched an episode.  I did not know Netflix did anime.   The girl looks like Velma, which confuses me.

    • #4
  5. Randy Webster Member
    Randy Webster
    @RandyWebster

    I just want to know if Tokyo still exists.

    • #5
  6. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I just want to know if Tokyo still exists.

    Spoiler warning: What’s left of it has been spiked through with huge blue crystals.

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  7. OmegaPaladin Moderator
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    @OmegaPaladin

    Daoism disgusts me.  It’s the most lazy and moronic religion out there outside of literal joke religions.  If there are daoists on Ricochet, I hope this offends you.  The whole back to nature message just tends to tick me off, so that’s a hard pass. 

    Godzilla Final Wars is my favorite – a delightfully cheesy action movie featuring tons of monsters, excellent rubber suit work, and an MMA fighter whose dialog is nothing but cliches

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  8. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):
    Daoism disgusts me.  It’s the most lazy and moronic religion out there outside of literal joke religions.  If there are daoists on Ricochet, I hope this offends you.  The whole back to nature message just tends to tick me off, so that’s a hard pass. 

    What would you say is the main point of Daoism?

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  9. E. Kent Golding Member
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Most Monster Island problems can be solved through the proper application of pokeballs.

    Pokeballs or Cocktails?

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  10. Dotorimuk Coolidge
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    @Dotorimuk

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  11. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    This is the Godzilla you really need:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-rbzcEM8A

    FYI: The idyllic music is from the William Tell Overture.  It’s the movement before The Lone Ranger theme . . .

    Oh, what the heck.  Here’s the whole overture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_6_71G7xyM

    You start with a slow buildup to a storm (familiar classic storm music), then the idyllic calm of the morning after, then the call to arms.

    So there you have it this morning.  A little crass, a little class!

    • #11
  12. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):
    Daoism disgusts me. It’s the most lazy and moronic religion out there outside of literal joke religions. If there are daoists on Ricochet, I hope this offends you. The whole back to nature message just tends to tick me off, so that’s a hard pass.

    What would you say is the main point of Daoism?

    Is it ‘every man for himself’, or is that Buddhism? 

    • #12
  13. DonG (CAGW is a hoax) Coolidge
    DonG (CAGW is a hoax)
    @DonG

    Stad (View Comment):

    Oh, what the heck.  Here’s the whole overture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_6_71G7xyM

    I actually prefer the Godzilla Theme.     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDeU42u2s2Y 

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  14. DonG (CAGW is a hoax) Coolidge
    DonG (CAGW is a hoax)
    @DonG

    DonG (CAGW is a hoax) (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Oh, what the heck.  Here’s the whole overture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_6_71G7xyM

    I actually prefer the Godzilla Theme.     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDeU42u2s2Y 

    Of course, there is the rock song from Blue Oyster Cult:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muUZjovOFRg

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  15. Instugator Thatcher
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    @Instugator

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):
    Daoism disgusts me. It’s the most lazy and moronic religion out there outside of literal joke religions. If there are daoists on Ricochet, I hope this offends you. The whole back to nature message just tends to tick me off, so that’s a hard pass.

    What would you say is the main point of Daoism?

    Be the bottom of the food chain?

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  16. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    Saint Augustine: Do you have a favorite Godzilla? Or a favorite Godzilla philosophy?

    I really enjoyed the Legendary Pictures / Monsterverse trilogy.

    • #16
  17. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    @CarolJoy

    Stad (View Comment):

    This is the Godzilla you really need:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-rbzcEM8A

    FYI: The idyllic music is from the William Tell Overture. It’s the movement before The Lone Ranger theme . . .

    Oh, what the heck. Here’s the whole overture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_6_71G7xyM

    You start with a slow buildup to a storm (familiar classic storm music), then the idyllic calm of the morning after, then the call to arms.

    So there you have it this morning. A little crass, a little class!

    I am now envisioning Godzilla riding along the prairies on a really really big horse. (Tonto at his side, on smaller steed.)

    • #17
  18. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    This is the Godzilla you really need:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-rbzcEM8A

    FYI: The idyllic music is from the William Tell Overture. It’s the movement before The Lone Ranger theme . . .

    Oh, what the heck. Here’s the whole overture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_6_71G7xyM

    You start with a slow buildup to a storm (familiar classic storm music), then the idyllic calm of the morning after, then the call to arms.

    So there you have it this morning. A little crass, a little class!

    I am now envisioning Godzilla riding along the prairies on a really really big horse. (Tonto at his side, on smaller steed.)

    Tonto played by Gamera . . .

    • #18
  19. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):
    Daoism disgusts me. It’s the most lazy and moronic religion out there outside of literal joke religions. If there are daoists on Ricochet, I hope this offends you. The whole back to nature message just tends to tick me off, so that’s a hard pass.

    What would you say is the main point of Daoism?

    Is it ‘every man for himself’, or is that Buddhism?

    That doesn’t sound like either of them to me.

    • #19
  20. Randy Webster Member
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    This is the Godzilla you really need:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-rbzcEM8A

    FYI: The idyllic music is from the William Tell Overture. It’s the movement before The Lone Ranger theme . . .

    Oh, what the heck. Here’s the whole overture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_6_71G7xyM

    You start with a slow buildup to a storm (familiar classic storm music), then the idyllic calm of the morning after, then the call to arms.

    So there you have it this morning. A little crass, a little class!

    I am now envisioning Godzilla riding along the prairies on a really really big horse. (Tonto at his side, on smaller steed.)

    Does Tonto call him kemo sabe?

    • #20
  21. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    Stad (View Comment):

    This is the Godzilla you really need:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-rbzcEM8A

    FYI: The idyllic music is from the William Tell Overture.  It’s the movement before The Lone Ranger theme . . .

    Oh my goodness yes!

    @dnewlander, your brother made that, I understand?

    I’ll give the embedding another shot:

    • #21
  22. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    DonG (CAGW is a hoax) (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a hoax) (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Oh, what the heck. Here’s the whole overture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_6_71G7xyM

    I actually prefer the Godzilla Theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDeU42u2s2Y

    Of course, there is the rock song from Blue Oyster Cult: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muUZjovOFRg

    That was truly awesome.

    • #22
  23. MeandurΦ Member
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    @DeanMurphy

    Stad (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    This is the Godzilla you really need:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-rbzcEM8A

    FYI: The idyllic music is from the William Tell Overture. It’s the movement before The Lone Ranger theme . . .

    Oh, what the heck. Here’s the whole overture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_6_71G7xyM

    You start with a slow buildup to a storm (familiar classic storm music), then the idyllic calm of the morning after, then the call to arms.

    So there you have it this morning. A little crass, a little class!

    I am now envisioning Godzilla riding along the prairies on a really really big horse. (Tonto at his side, on smaller steed.)

    Tonto played by Gamera . . .

    Gamera *is* full of meat…

    • #23
  24. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    MeandurΦ (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    This is the Godzilla you really need:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-rbzcEM8A

    FYI: The idyllic music is from the William Tell Overture. It’s the movement before The Lone Ranger theme . . .

    Oh, what the heck. Here’s the whole overture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_6_71G7xyM

    You start with a slow buildup to a storm (familiar classic storm music), then the idyllic calm of the morning after, then the call to arms.

    So there you have it this morning. A little crass, a little class!

    I am now envisioning Godzilla riding along the prairies on a really really big horse. (Tonto at his side, on smaller steed.)

    Tonto played by Gamera . . .

    Gamera *is* full of meat…

    I miss MST3K and Joel Hodgson . . .

    • #24
  25. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    And Dante. They quote Dante too.

    • #25