A Young Woman Dies After a COVID Vaccine; Twitter Labels Her Obituary ‘Misleading’

 

Jessica Berg Wilson’s obituary describes her as “an exceptionally healthy and vibrant 37-year-old young mother with no underlying health conditions” who “died unexpectedly on Sep. 7 from COVID-19 Vaccine-Induced Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia (VITT).”

The obituary continues:

Jessica fully embraced motherhood, sharing her passion for life with her daughters. Jessica’s motherly commitment was intense, with unwavering determination to nurture her children to be confident, humble, responsible, and to have concern and compassion for others with high morals built on Faith.

Jessica’s greatest passion was to be the best mother possible for Bridget and Clara. Nothing would stand in her way to be present in their lives. During the last weeks of her life, however, the world turned dark with heavy-handed vaccine mandates. Local and state governments were determined to strip away her right to consult her wisdom and enjoy her freedom. She had been vehemently opposed to taking the vaccine, knowing she was in good health and of a young age and thus not at risk for serious illness. In her mind, the known and unknown risks of the unproven vaccine were more of a threat. But, slowly, day by day, her freedom to choose was stripped away. Her passion to be actively involved in her children’s education—which included being a Room Mom—was, once again, blocked by government mandate. Ultimately, those who closed doors and separated mothers from their children prevailed.

It cost Jessica her life. It cost her children the loving embrace of their caring mother. And it cost her husband the sacred love of his devoted wife. It cost God’s Kingdom on earth a very special soul who was just making her love felt in the hearts of so many.

This very sad story was made even worse by the Twitter Police.

When a Twitter user posted this young woman’s obituary, adding in the caption that she had not wanted to get vaccinated, the post was slapped with a warning label. It read: “This Tweet is misleading. Find out why health officials consider COVID-19 vaccines safe for most people.” It provided a link so users could “find out more.” The message also said, “This Tweet can’t be replied to, shared or liked.”

Here is a screenshot of the Twitter warning label.

This is what pops up if you click on the retweet button.

Misleading? A healthy young woman, who believed that the vaccine posed a greater risk to her health than contracting the virus itself, was required to comply with the school’s vaccine requirement for visitors if she wanted to be involved in her children’s classrooms.

She took the vaccine and was one of the unlucky ones. I am not anti-vax, but these vaccines do come with a risk. And no one should be forced into submission.

This is tyranny and it’s hard to imagine this is happening in America.

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  1. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    By the way, in July India withdrew its approval for the use of ivermectin.

    Did they say why?

     

    Yes, they said it doesn’t work. 

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  2. Bob Thompson Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    By the way, in July India withdrew its approval for the use of ivermectin.

    Did they say why?

     

    Yes, they said it doesn’t work.

    After running the kind of test required to know this is a fact?

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  3. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    By the way, in July India withdrew its approval for the use of ivermectin.

    Did they say why?

     

    Yes, they said it doesn’t work.

    After running the kind of test required to know this is a fact?

    Oh I’m sure they’ve got plenty of trials to back up the claim. Just like we’ve got a mountain of evidence that it works quite well. 

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  4. Flicker Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    By the way, in July India withdrew its approval for the use of ivermectin.

    Did they say why?

    Yes, they said it doesn’t work.

    After running the kind of test required to know this is a fact?

    Oh I’m sure they’ve got plenty of trials to back up the claim. Just like we’ve got a mountain of evidence that it works quite well.

    Off topic, but I just got a text that it’s hitting the news that Vit-C, Vit-D3 and zinc do nothing to prevent or cure CoV.  So it looks like they will be limiting supply, so stock up.

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    By the way, in July India withdrew its approval for the use of ivermectin.

    Did they say why?

    Yes, they said it doesn’t work.

    After running the kind of test required to know this is a fact?

    Oh I’m sure they’ve got plenty of trials to back up the claim. Just like we’ve got a mountain of evidence that it works quite well.

    Off topic, but I just got a text that it’s hitting the news that Vit-C, Vit-D3 and zinc do nothing to prevent or cure CoV. So it looks like they will be limiting supply, so stock up.

    And of course, those things do NOTHING ELSE beneficial either.

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  6. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    Off topic, but I just got a text that it’s hitting the news that Vit-C, Vit-D3 and zinc do nothing to prevent or cure CoV.  So it looks like they will be limiting supply, so stock up.

    I’ll bet probiotics and lemons are next. 

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  7. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    And now, this: 

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    And now, this:

     

    Could amount to a death sentence for some people.

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  9. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    And now, this:

    This is horrendous, as after all one of the results of getting the COV injection is that for those patients who have received  kidney transplants, their bodies then reject it. So what is the result of flooding your body with the spike proteins prior to getting the kidney transplant?

    I just watched a panel of Canadian doctors and the things they are reporting as far as how the physicians are not allowed to ever ever mention any adverse effect as being the result of a vaccine, unless the physician then is prepared to be fired, and that the physicians are not allowed to prescribe the actual remedies – including even a suggestion during a patient consultation that when a patient inquires how they can bolster their immune system so they do not get COVID, there must not be any any mention of upping Vit D levels. This is s-i-c-k!

    This Stew Peters interview of a nurse as to the travesties she has witnessed is most chilling:

    https://citizenfreepress.com/column-1/whistleblower-nurse-majority-of-our-covid-patients-are-actually-suffering-from-vaccine-injuries/

    BTW Stew Peters holds the number two spot in popularity for talk show podcasts on the Apple podcast network.

     

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  10. kedavis Coolidge
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    And now, this:

    This is horrendous, as after all one of the results of getting the COV injection is that for those patients who have received kidney transplants, their bodies then reject it. So what is the result of flooding your body with the spike proteins prior to getting the kidney transplant?

    I just watched a panel of Canadian doctors and the things they are reporting as far as how the physicians are not allowed to ever ever mention any adverse effect as being the result of a vaccine, unless the physician then is prepared to be fired, and that the physicians are not allowed to prescribe the actual remedies – including even a suggestion during a patient consultation that when a patient inquires how they can bolster their immune system so they do not get COVID, there must not be any any mention of upping Vit D levels. This is s-i-c-k!

    This Stew Peters interview of a nurse as to the travesties she has witnessed is most chilling:

    https://citizenfreepress.com/column-1/whistleblower-nurse-majority-of-our-covid-patients-are-actually-suffering-from-vaccine-injuries/

    BTW Stew Peters holds the number two spot in popularity for talk show podcasts on the Apple podcast network.

     

    I started taking an L-Lysine supplement a few months ago, as a way to perhaps lower my blood pressure, since Lysine is used by the body to produce collagen, which is then used in other ways including making new/enlarged blood vessels…  The Lysine supplement I take also includes Vit C and Zinc, and I also take a “senior” multivitamin supplement including zinc and Vit C and D, plus a Calcium supplement which also includes some more D….

    So far, so good.  And no covid.

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  11. Flicker Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    And now, this:

    It does make you angry doesn’t it.

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  12. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    It does make you angry doesn’t it.

    It should, but I have no doubt that some will just say, “That’s what you get for not playing ball getting vaccinated.” 

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  13. Flicker Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    It does make you angry doesn’t it.

    It should, but I have no doubt that some will just say, “That’s what you get for not playing ball getting vaccinated.”

    I wonder if he’s on home dialysis or out-patient.  I don’t think it makes a difference; you need to keep up your supplies.  This person has to make a tough decision.  Live one way or die another.

    Very depressing.

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  14. Taras Coolidge
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    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Does this count as a data point?

    To be a data point, it has to contain data.

    Presumably data would be brought forward in such a hypothetical (and extremely improbable) debate with “lying scumbag” Anthony Fauci.

    This reminds me of an open letter to then-New York City Mayor Abe Beame from a woman handing out flyers on the street near Columbia University. It began: “Jew Abraham Beame, why have you not answered my letters?“

    My little brother took a flyer out of curiosity, and almost fell over from laughing so hard!

    Testimony can be a data point. Authorities’ opinions can be data points. A collection of data may not prove anything. To dismiss them as irrelevant to an inquiry before compiling them and evaluating their relevance is a common error.

    The assertion that “The truth will emerge fast & the world will learn some basic immunology” is not data.  

    What “truth”?  What “basic immunology”?  All we can tell from this is that Shiva disagrees with Anthony Fauci about something.  But the statement does not tell us what — vaccines? masks? Vitamin D? HCQ? lockdowns? — that something is.

     

     

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  15. Bob Thompson Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Does this count as a data point?

    To be a data point, it has to contain data.

    Presumably data would be brought forward in such a hypothetical (and extremely improbable) debate with “lying scumbag” Anthony Fauci.

    This reminds me of an open letter to then-New York City Mayor Abe Beame from a woman handing out flyers on the street near Columbia University. It began: “Jew Abraham Beame, why have you not answered my letters?“

    My little brother took a flyer out of curiosity, and almost fell over from laughing so hard!

    Testimony can be a data point. Authorities’ opinions can be data points. A collection of data may not prove anything. To dismiss them as irrelevant to an inquiry before compiling them and evaluating their relevance is a common error.

    The assertion that “The truth will emerge fast & the world will learn some basic immunology” is not data.

    What “truth”? What “basic immunology”? All we can tell from this is that Shiva disagrees with Anthony Fauci about something. But the statement does not tell us what — vaccines? masks? Vitamin D? HCQ? lockdowns? — that something is.

     

     

    Are we now going to spend time contesting whether information and data are the same thing or not? I can live with whatever.

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  16. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):
    What “truth”?  What “basic immunology”?  All we can tell from this is that Shiva disagrees with Anthony Fauci about something.  But the statement does not tell us what — vaccines? masks? Vitamin D? HCQ? lockdowns? — that something is.

    Based on all of the appearances Shiva has made over the past year I assume he disagrees with Fauci about practically everything, which is why Fauci will never debate him, and why no news media (including the Ricochet podcast) want to step into the arena of ideas with him. 

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  17. Taras Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    What “truth”? What “basic immunology”? All we can tell from this is that Shiva disagrees with Anthony Fauci about something. But the statement does not tell us what — vaccines? masks? Vitamin D? HCQ? lockdowns? — that something is.

    Based on all of the appearances Shiva has made over the past year I assume he disagrees with Fauci about practically everything, which is why Fauci will never debate him, and why no news media (including the Ricochet podcast) want to step into the arena of ideas with him.

    When was the last time Fauci debated anybody?  Other than Rand Paul, when he’s forced to appear before a Senate committee.

    Shiva, who claims to have invented email as a teenager, comes across as brilliant but a little bit cracked.  (He evidently wrote a program called EMAIL; but it was not the first “email” program.)

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  18. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):
    Shiva, who claims to have invented email as a teenager, comes across as brilliant but a little bit cracked.

    Sounds like every inventor ever. 

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  19. The Reticulator Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    And more than double the deaths from the unvaccinated

    What some people don’t understand is that a small number multiplied by a large number can be less than a large number multiplied by a small number. Or vice versa.

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  20. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Democracy) Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    Why do you disagree with my conclusions on the study? It’s important because my conclusion was that none of those alternative treatments had an impact if you look at the other data in India. If your only point is that doctors should be free to prescribe alternative treatments I agree, which is different from arguing that they are effective. You’re trying to have it both ways. But then why are you citing this Ohio lawyer for a proposition for which there appears to be no support, while alleging it proves a crime, and why won’t you respond to me for support for your claim that non-Western countries using these alternative treatments have 1% of the death rate of Western countries?

    By the way, in July India withdrew its approval for the use of ivermectin.

    Because I’m not interested in those topics, which is why I didn’t participate in that other thread. My only interest in this is as it relates to victims being denied alternative treatments and why.

    And I have no intention of addressing your questions since you refuse to address mine…four times now.

    I had no interest in those questions which is why I never addressed them.  It was you who raised the points I’ve asked about and now you refuse to respond.

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  21. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Democracy) Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    And more than double the deaths from the unvaccinated

    What some people don’t understand is that a small number multiplied by a large number can be less than a large number multiplied by a small number. Or vice versa.

    Actually they refuse to understand because it conflicts with their world view.

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  22. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    And more than double the deaths from the unvaccinated

    What some people don’t understand is that a small number multiplied by a large number can be less than a large number multiplied by a small number. Or vice versa.

    Actually they refuse to understand because it conflicts with their world view.

    Agree with you there. 

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  23. OmegaPaladin Moderator
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    Just for the record, telling a transplant patient they need to get a vaccine sounds bizarre as well as evil.  Wouldn’t the immune suppressant drugs given after the transplant seriously degrade any immune response?   Does the vaccine have protective effects even when someone is on immune suppressants?

    It’s kind of funny.  Normally, I would say that regulators would not be so crazy as to regulate vitamins and minerals, but I’m not sure about that now.  People take vitamin C, D, and Zinc for many reasons.  Calcium and Vitamin D are part of osteoporosis prevention for women, so make sure to say that any restriction of vitamin D is anti-woman.  Regardless, any crackdown would be really obvious as these are all OTC supplements.  You can buy them online.

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  24. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Does this count as a data point?

    To be a data point, it has to contain data.

    Presumably data would be brought forward in such a hypothetical (and extremely improbable) debate with “lying scumbag” Anthony Fauci.

    This reminds me of an open letter to then-New York City Mayor Abe Beame from a woman handing out flyers on the street near Columbia University. It began: “Jew Abraham Beame, why have you not answered my letters?“

    My little brother took a flyer out of curiosity, and almost fell over from laughing so hard!

    Testimony can be a data point. Authorities’ opinions can be data points. A collection of data may not prove anything. To dismiss them as irrelevant to an inquiry before compiling them and evaluating their relevance is a common error.

    The assertion that “The truth will emerge fast & the world will learn some basic immunology” is not data.

    What “truth”? What “basic immunology”? All we can tell from this is that Shiva disagrees with Anthony Fauci about something. But the statement does not tell us what — vaccines? masks? Vitamin D? HCQ? lockdowns? — that something is.

    If this was a debate between Shiva and some renowned scientist who had even HS level debate skills, I would agree with you.

    But when Fauci is called on any of his crap, he always fails to pull back for a second, think about the policy objection he is being handed and make some stunning knowledgeable response. (As someone in his position would have done 40 or 50 years ago, back wen our “health agencies” were not simply Industry-Captured entities whose personnel were actually proponents of the very industries that the personnel should be regulating.)

    I think the one reply he is most famous for these days is his “An attack on me is an attack on science” bluster, which shows Fauci is far more of a narcissist than a scientist. (Well, in his defense, both expressions end in “ist.” So maybe he thinks that is close enough.)

     

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  25. Taras Coolidge
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    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    Just for the record, telling a transplant patient they need to get a vaccine sounds bizarre as well as evil. Wouldn’t the immune suppressant drugs given after the transplant seriously degrade any immune response? Does the vaccine have protective effects even when someone is on immune suppressants?

    It’s kind of funny. Normally, I would say that regulators would not be so crazy as to regulate vitamins and minerals, but I’m not sure about that now. People take vitamin C, D, and Zinc for many reasons. Calcium and Vitamin D are part of osteoporosis prevention for women, so make sure to say that any restriction of vitamin D is anti-woman. Regardless, any crackdown would be really obvious as these are all OTC supplements. You can buy them online.

    “Wouldn’t the immune suppressant drugs given after the transplant seriously degrade any immune response?”

    This could be why they insist that the patient be vaccinated before the transplant and before they begin the regimen of immune suppressant drugs.

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  26. Taras Coolidge
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Does this count as a data point?

    To be a data point, it has to contain data.

    Presumably data would be brought forward in such a hypothetical (and extremely improbable) debate with “lying scumbag” Anthony Fauci.

    This reminds me of an open letter to then-New York City Mayor Abe Beame from a woman handing out flyers on the street near Columbia University. It began: “Jew Abraham Beame, why have you not answered my letters?“

    My little brother took a flyer out of curiosity, and almost fell over from laughing so hard!

    Testimony can be a data point. Authorities’ opinions can be data points. A collection of data may not prove anything. To dismiss them as irrelevant to an inquiry before compiling them and evaluating their relevance is a common error.

    The assertion that “The truth will emerge fast & the world will learn some basic immunology” is not data.

    What “truth”? What “basic immunology”? All we can tell from this is that Shiva disagrees with Anthony Fauci about something. But the statement does not tell us what — vaccines? masks? Vitamin D? HCQ? lockdowns? — that something is.

    If this was a debate between Shiva and some renowned scientist who had even HS level debate skills, I would agree with you.

    But when Fauci is called on any of his crap, he always fails to pull back for a second, think about the policy objection he is being handed and make some stunning knowledgeable response. (As someone in his position would have done 40 or 50 years ago, back wen our “health agencies” were not simply Industry-Captured entities whose personnel were actually proponents of the very industries that the personnel should be regulating.)

    I think the one reply he is most famous for these days is his “An attack on me is an attack on science” bluster, which shows Fauci is far more of a narcissist than a scientist. (Well, in his defense, both expressions end in “ist.” So maybe he thinks that is close enough.)

     

    Clearly you’re reading something into my comment that I didn’t intend; but I have no idea what that is.

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  27. kedavis Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    Just for the record, telling a transplant patient they need to get a vaccine sounds bizarre as well as evil. Wouldn’t the immune suppressant drugs given after the transplant seriously degrade any immune response? Does the vaccine have protective effects even when someone is on immune suppressants?

    It’s kind of funny. Normally, I would say that regulators would not be so crazy as to regulate vitamins and minerals, but I’m not sure about that now. People take vitamin C, D, and Zinc for many reasons. Calcium and Vitamin D are part of osteoporosis prevention for women, so make sure to say that any restriction of vitamin D is anti-woman. Regardless, any crackdown would be really obvious as these are all OTC supplements. You can buy them online.

    “Wouldn’t the immune suppressant drugs given after the transplant seriously degrade any immune response?”

    This could be why they insist that the patient be vaccinated before the transplant and before they begin the regimen of immune suppressant drugs.

    Immune-suppressing drugs after vaccination would still suppress the immune system, getting the vaccine first wouldn’t stop that.  And, at least according to my uncle who had his kidney transplant quite a while ago, they start getting the immuno-suppressive drugs a while before the actual transplant.  I don’t remember if it was weeks or months.

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  28. Taras Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    Just for the record, telling a transplant patient they need to get a vaccine sounds bizarre as well as evil. Wouldn’t the immune suppressant drugs given after the transplant seriously degrade any immune response? Does the vaccine have protective effects even when someone is on immune suppressants?

    It’s kind of funny. Normally, I would say that regulators would not be so crazy as to regulate vitamins and minerals, but I’m not sure about that now. People take vitamin C, D, and Zinc for many reasons. Calcium and Vitamin D are part of osteoporosis prevention for women, so make sure to say that any restriction of vitamin D is anti-woman. Regardless, any crackdown would be really obvious as these are all OTC supplements. You can buy them online.

    “Wouldn’t the immune suppressant drugs given after the transplant seriously degrade any immune response?”

    This could be why they insist that the patient be vaccinated before the transplant and before they begin the regimen of immune suppressant drugs.

    Immune-suppressing drugs after vaccination would still suppress the immune system, getting the vaccine first wouldn’t stop that. And, at least according to my uncle who had his kidney transplant quite a while ago, they start getting the immuno-suppressive drugs a while before the actual transplant. I don’t remember if it was weeks or months.

    Obviously, “immune-suppressing” drugs don’t completely suppress the immune system, or every transplant patient would have to live like the Bubble Boy.  But it wouldn’t surprise me if they made it harder to establish a new immunization.

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  29. kedavis Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    Just for the record, telling a transplant patient they need to get a vaccine sounds bizarre as well as evil. Wouldn’t the immune suppressant drugs given after the transplant seriously degrade any immune response? Does the vaccine have protective effects even when someone is on immune suppressants?

    It’s kind of funny. Normally, I would say that regulators would not be so crazy as to regulate vitamins and minerals, but I’m not sure about that now. People take vitamin C, D, and Zinc for many reasons. Calcium and Vitamin D are part of osteoporosis prevention for women, so make sure to say that any restriction of vitamin D is anti-woman. Regardless, any crackdown would be really obvious as these are all OTC supplements. You can buy them online.

    “Wouldn’t the immune suppressant drugs given after the transplant seriously degrade any immune response?”

    This could be why they insist that the patient be vaccinated before the transplant and before they begin the regimen of immune suppressant drugs.

    Immune-suppressing drugs after vaccination would still suppress the immune system, getting the vaccine first wouldn’t stop that. And, at least according to my uncle who had his kidney transplant quite a while ago, they start getting the immuno-suppressive drugs a while before the actual transplant. I don’t remember if it was weeks or months.

    Obviously, “immune-suppressing” drugs don’t completely suppress the immune system, or every transplant patient would have to live like the Bubble Boy. But it wouldn’t surprise me if they made it harder to establish a new immunization.

    Anyone waiting for a kidney transplant now may already be taking the immuno-suppressing drugs because they don’t know when a kidney might become available.  So, getting vaccinated would likely require stopping the immuno-suppressing drugs possibly for weeks, then getting vaccinated once, waiting weeks, getting vaccinated again, then waiting more weeks before resuming the immuno-suppressing drugs, which then have to be maintained for possibly more weeks before a transplant could be done…

    Someone who is ready for a transplant RIGHT NOW might be delayed by MONTHS.  Just for the “jab.”  Ridiculous.

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    Just for the record, telling a transplant patient they need to get a vaccine sounds bizarre as well as evil. Wouldn’t the immune suppressant drugs given after the transplant seriously degrade any immune response? Does the vaccine have protective effects even when someone is on immune suppressants?

    It’s kind of funny. Normally, I would say that regulators would not be so crazy as to regulate vitamins and minerals, but I’m not sure about that now. People take vitamin C, D, and Zinc for many reasons. Calcium and Vitamin D are part of osteoporosis prevention for women, so make sure to say that any restriction of vitamin D is anti-woman. Regardless, any crackdown would be really obvious as these are all OTC supplements. You can buy them online.

    “Wouldn’t the immune suppressant drugs given after the transplant seriously degrade any immune response?”

    This could be why they insist that the patient be vaccinated before the transplant and before they begin the regimen of immune suppressant drugs.

    Immune-suppressing drugs after vaccination would still suppress the immune system, getting the vaccine first wouldn’t stop that. And, at least according to my uncle who had his kidney transplant quite a while ago, they start getting the immuno-suppressive drugs a while before the actual transplant. I don’t remember if it was weeks or months.

    Obviously, “immune-suppressing” drugs don’t completely suppress the immune system, or every transplant patient would have to live like the Bubble Boy. But it wouldn’t surprise me if they made it harder to establish a new immunization.

    Anyone waiting for a kidney transplant now may already be taking the immuno-suppressing drugs because they don’t know when a kidney might become available. So, getting vaccinated would likely require stopping the immuno-suppressing drugs possibly for weeks, then getting vaccinated once, waiting weeks, getting vaccinated again, then waiting more weeks before resuming the immuno-suppressing drugs, which then have to be maintained for possibly more weeks before a transplant could be done…

    Someone who is ready for a transplant RIGHT NOW might be delayed by MONTHS. Just for the “jab.” Ridiculous.

    I’m pretty sure that they don’t start immunosuppressive drugs until the day of the transplant but I don’t know 100%.

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