Follow Wisdom First — Then Science

 

Fellow Ricochet member @flicker recently shared a video on COVID-19 in one of our groups. I was so impressed by it, I had to post it here. It’s lengthy, but take the time. I say that because it involves your health, well-being, and our collective future. It was encouraging, if that word can ever coincide with this nasty pandemic. It features Dr. Robert Malone, a creator of the mRNA technology, a delivery system of medicine that has and will continue to revolutionize treating many diseases with a targeted approach.

The other person is someone called Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche. While his field is veterinary medicine, he is so full of wisdom in the study of this virus and contributes tremendous amounts of insight into its evolution and treatment options at this point, and what to expect going forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=qP31cfD3YOY&fbclid=IwAR3CWlWTWCixauYFQOJEfKYdGrPq9jvXvkgWT4Mu8Z8QGOMBCQve4NbrtPA

If I may outline some of the highlights of the video, they are as follows:

  1. What we now know and don’t know, as opposed to January 2020, has a great impact on how we test, treat, protect, and go forward, including treatment options and protecting against the continuing variances that this virus continues to mutate. For example, ivermectin, a very effective treatment that greatly lowered the outbreak in India, is a desirable option. Yet some of these treatments are being banned, and even the discussion is being censored! Boosting the immune system and also treating with high doses of vitamin C, vitamin D in safe amounts and including sun exposure, zinc, and other supplements protects the individual from contracting COVID. They also talk about obesity (a big problem in the United States, especially in minority communities) as escalating your comorbidity risks.
  2. Mass vaccination is not the answer, say these scientists. They give their examples and how to achieve herd immunity. Mass vaccination, in fact, they say, is allowing the mutant strains to evade the vaccine and become even more contagious, although not as deadly. They give their reasons why the unvaccinated are in fact contributing to the herd immunity, and the eventual eradication of this virus. This is the opposite of what we are being told by the government, mass media, and Anthony Fauci, who the United States has put in place as the person who knows the protocol to follow. He has ties to Wuhan, to gain-of-function research as well as the World Health Organization. While that is not the focus of this post, is that not a conflict of interest?
  3. The doctors discuss past and present vaccine protocols and how these safety measures have not been followed in the same way other vaccines have been developed and then released for treatment on humans. They have been bypassed, and there is no way to measure side effects, either short, medium, or long term, so it is essentially a worldwide experiment. In fact, Dr. Malone states that the CDC is both pro-vaccine and pro-safety and is heavily funded to promote vaccinations. There is a conflict in that statement. Unless you have data collection on side effects and follow the science as well as all the stages of safety before releasing a vaccine, but instead fast-tracking it, that is a conflict. They cite that each country “is doing their own thing,” and there is no central collection of data to establish very important and potentially serious results from the virus and vaccine. These include changes in all organs, not just the lungs, including the reproductive system. This is HUGE! This could impact future generations.
  4. They highly discourage the inoculation of children for many reasons — they are still at low risk and side effects, including reproductive. They also give their reasons for why younger people are now contracting COVID.
  5. They strongly are against pitting the vaccinated and the unvaccinated into opposing camps and even using the word “anti-vaxxer.” Most people are not opposed to vaccines, and most have gotten quite a few in their lives. But there is a label with COVID-19 that is being promoted by governments to stigmatize, remove freedom of choice, and even go to lengths to pressure people in their livelihoods — get the jab or lose your job or your ability to travel, attend social events, or even go to a restaurant. This “Green Pass” that many countries are now implementing goes against everything we know is right. Even the Vatican has now implemented this requirement (but not for parishioners as of yet). The doctors realize this is pitting people against one another, and fines are threatening the survival of companies and small businesses across the world, lest they comply. Even the military has had to comply.

I found their conversation full of wisdom. Just discussing where we are and how to go forward is refreshing, instead of coercion, threats, and strife. Many have been censored just talking, giving their opinion. YouTube gives strikes like in a ballgame game, and after the third strike, you are banned. Facebook censors and removes content. Who gave them the authority to shut down any free exchange of ideas?

The doctors say there is more to come. This isn’t over yet, and they tell you what they see on the horizon. So far, their predictions have come true. One important topic that they discuss toward the end is FEAR. They are adamant about taking fear out of the equation. “Follow the science,” we are told, so these guys are offering science, but they are not following a narrative.

We cannot forget what our founders left us — unchanging documents for a time such as this. We cannot forget history or allow those who want to erase it to replace it with something unrecognizable, and those that survived pandemics and much more. Whether this virus is being used to introduce the “Great Reset,” if it originated as a possible bioweapon, those questions remain and will eventually be answered. But if you want to get on with life and demand that your freedoms are protected, please listen to the video while it remains accessible and prepare accordingly. We are in this together, and sharing all information, not just absorbing what talking heads spew, will give us strength to make the right decisions for ourselves and our families. The only way to discern is to follow King Solomon’s advice and pursue wisdom. We can’t do that until we have all the facts, and that includes different opinions and data.

At the end of the video, the doctors have also created a COVID Foundation 360 site, a course that you can click on to learn about COVID, part of McMillan Research, where doctors and scientists and the general public can share information. Wisdom!

https://mcmillanresearch.com/

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  1. HeavyWater Reagan
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Again, this is ancient immunological biological “technology”. The vaccine is utterly new and is not a food, and is potentially harmful or lethal. This isn’t restaurant food. This is laboratory-made injectables made for a deliberate immune response, by causing the human body itself to produce toxins or antigens, or pathogens in the body, and that have never been tested adequately.

    About 75 percent of Americans aged 12 and older have received at least one dose of the vaccine.  If the vaccine is as lethal as you suspect it is we should actually see evidence of this lethality reasonably soon.

    But just stay tuned.  This covid vaccine will turn out to be as lethal as cheerios.  

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Again, this is ancient immunological biological “technology”. The vaccine is utterly new and is not a food, and is potentially harmful or lethal. This isn’t restaurant food. This is laboratory-made injectables made for a deliberate immune response, by causing the human body itself to produce toxins or antigens, or pathogens in the body, and that have never been tested adequately.

    About 75 percent of Americans aged 12 and older have received at least one dose of the vaccine. If the vaccine is as lethal as you suspect it is we should actually see evidence of this lethality reasonably soon.

    But just stay tuned. This covid vaccine will turn out to be as lethal as cheerios.

    There is some chance that if the vaccines don’t cause dangerous or even deadly problems with future exposures to different corona viruses etc, it may be just “dumb luck” because the vaccines are not as long-lasting as had been intended.

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  3. HeavyWater Reagan
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Again, this is ancient immunological biological “technology”. The vaccine is utterly new and is not a food, and is potentially harmful or lethal. This isn’t restaurant food. This is laboratory-made injectables made for a deliberate immune response, by causing the human body itself to produce toxins or antigens, or pathogens in the body, and that have never been tested adequately.

    About 75 percent of Americans aged 12 and older have received at least one dose of the vaccine. If the vaccine is as lethal as you suspect it is we should actually see evidence of this lethality reasonably soon.

    But just stay tuned. This covid vaccine will turn out to be as lethal as cheerios.

    There is some chance that if the vaccines don’t cause dangerous or even deadly problems with future exposures to different corona viruses etc, it may be just “dumb luck” because the vaccines are not as long-lasting as had been intended.

    Ah, so if the vaccines turn out to be as lethal as cheerios, it’s just dumb luck.  

    But if someone decides not to get vaccinated because they listened to quack doctors and ends up dead from covid, that’s just bad luck.  

    Great logic.  

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  4. Saint Augustine Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Did you get the part about safety being an issue?  I know you’re busy, but it’s all highly watchable.

    Of the vaccines? Yes, I believe I got that.  Not that I needed to be convinced.

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Again, this is ancient immunological biological “technology”. The vaccine is utterly new and is not a food, and is potentially harmful or lethal. This isn’t restaurant food. This is laboratory-made injectables made for a deliberate immune response, by causing the human body itself to produce toxins or antigens, or pathogens in the body, and that have never been tested adequately.

    About 75 percent of Americans aged 12 and older have received at least one dose of the vaccine. If the vaccine is as lethal as you suspect it is we should actually see evidence of this lethality reasonably soon.

    But just stay tuned. This covid vaccine will turn out to be as lethal as cheerios.

    There is some chance that if the vaccines don’t cause dangerous or even deadly problems with future exposures to different corona viruses etc, it may be just “dumb luck” because the vaccines are not as long-lasting as had been intended.

    Ah, so if the vaccines turn out to be as lethal as cheerios, it’s just dumb luck.

    But if someone decides not to get vaccinated because they listened to quack doctors and ends up dead from covid, that’s just bad luck.

    Great logic.

    Actually you got my point backwards.  I’ll try laying it out more slowly.

    The plan, supposedly at least, was for the vaccines to be long-lasting, ideally even permanent.  No boosters required.

    IF there is a problem with the vaccines, one possible issue is that vaccinated people might have some kind of “immune system storm” response upon later exposure to SOME OTHER type of corona virus, not necessarily -19.

    HOWEVER.

    IF the vaccines actually wear off rather quickly, in months, then MAYBE people who have been vaccinated, WON’T have such a reaction when exposed to some other corona virus.

    NOT because the vaccines are SAFE, but because they WEAR OFF, which WASNT THE PLAN, the vaccines were SUPPOSED TO be, were INTENDED TO be, long-term/permanent.

    So if people who have been vaccinated, DON’T have a later reaction, because the vaccines WORE OFF, it will be “dumb luck” because the vaccines weren’t SUPPOSED TO wear off like that.

    Get it now?

    (Which doesn’t mean that NOBODY will have such a reaction, but it may be limited to people who were vaccinated most recently, etc.)

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  6. OmegaPaladin Moderator
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    Kelly B (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    One major problem here – if a virus can develop resistance to a vaccine, it can also develop resistance to the normal immune response. The vaccine’s whole purpose is to stimulate the same immune response as the actual virus, without actually risking infection. That’s what vaccines do. People can get repeat infections with viruses, and viruses can overwhelm the immune system.

    IANAD, but this topic has fascinated me and I’ve read a lot about it, so I’m hoping I can clarify here.

    The COVID “vaccines” differ from what most of us think of as vaccines. Traditionally, a vaccine used a virus molecule that had been killed or rendered impotent to trigger the immune reaction – and the immune system response was the same as it would have been to the live virus – to the whole molecule.

    The shots we’re getting now use messenger RNA to instruct your cells to produce ONLY the spike protein that COVID uses to interact with your cells – so that’s all that your vaccinated immune system knows about.

    When the virus mutates in a way that changes the spike protein, it can evade your vaccinated immune system, where a post-infection immune system likely will recognize and react to other virus characteristics. There’s a lot of thinking out there that this is what we’re seeing with Delta, particularly around breakthrough infections.

    Yes – good example. They have not isolated the original COVID-19 origin to make this vaccine. It is created with replicating the sequence – and we don’t as yet know how this virus sequence originated. If it is man-made, that is new. As you say, past vaccines are developed from bacteria and you get a dead version. Also the vaccine has gone through all the stages of testing which takes a long time.

    I need to get more information on the reason inactivated virus was not used.  That is a common route for vaccines, and it would be the first thing any researcher is going to think of.  It’s not the only case of a vaccine that does not contain the full organism.  The DTaP or Tdap vaccines contain inactivated diptheria and tetanus toxins (not the actual organism), along with purified antigens from pertussis (close to a bacteria version of spike protein). 

    The spikes are how the virus sticks to a probe, and the thought behind using the spike protein is that changes here are likely to reduce binding/infectiousness.  I have read that the pure spike protein is too unstable to make a vaccine.  People were trying to make a home-made vaccine using pure spike protein administered to the nose, but that could not be distributed easily.

    Just to make sure we are on the right page, viral vaccines are not made with bacteria.  Typically, this involves culturing the virus in some kind of cells.  This is why the influenza vaccine says it is forbidden if you are allergic to eggs – that’s what they use to grow the virus. 

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    Kelly B (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    IANAD, but this topic has fascinated me and I’ve read a lot about it, so I’m hoping I can clarify here.

    The COVID “vaccines” differ from what most of us think of as vaccines. Traditionally, a vaccine used a virus molecule that had been killed or rendered impotent to trigger the immune reaction – and the immune system response was the same as it would have been to the live virus – to the whole molecule.

    The shots we’re getting now use messenger RNA to instruct your cells to produce ONLY the spike protein that COVID uses to interact with your cells – so that’s all that your vaccinated immune system knows about.

    When the virus mutates in a way that changes the spike protein, it can evade your vaccinated immune system, where a post-infection immune system likely will recognize and react to other virus characteristics. There’s a lot of thinking out there that this is what we’re seeing with Delta, particularly around breakthrough infections.

    Yes – good example. They have not isolated the original COVID-19 origin to make this vaccine. It is created with replicating the sequence – and we don’t as yet know how this virus sequence originated. If it is man-made, that is new. As you say, past vaccines are developed from bacteria and you get a dead version. Also the vaccine has gone through all the stages of testing which takes a long time.

    I need to get more information on the reason inactivated virus was not used. That is a common route for vaccines, and it would be the first thing any researcher is going to think of. It’s not the only case of a vaccine that does not contain the full organism. The DTaP or Tdap vaccines contain inactivated diptheria and tetanus toxins (not the actual organism), along with purified antigens from pertussis (close to a bacteria version of spike protein).

    The spikes are how the virus sticks to a probe, and the thought behind using the spike protein is that changes here are likely to reduce binding/infectiousness. I have read that the pure spike protein is too unstable to make a vaccine. People were trying to make a home-made vaccine using pure spike protein administered to the nose, but that could not be distributed easily.

    Just to make sure we are on the right page, viral vaccines are not made with bacteria. Typically, this involves culturing the virus in some kind of cells. This is why the influenza vaccine says it is forbidden if you are allergic to eggs – that’s what they use to grow the virus.

    One big reason they used the mRNA technology rather than more traditional routes, was SPEED.  They wanted it FAST.  And the mRNA technology has been described as an “operating system” that is easily and quickly “programmed.”

    Not necessarily superior or even “good.”

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  8. Flicker Coolidge
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    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    I need to get more information on the reason inactivated virus was not used.  That is a common route for vaccines, and it would be the first thing any researcher is going to think of.  It’s not the only case of a vaccine that does not contain the full organism.  The DTaP or Tdap vaccines contain inactivated diptheria and tetanus toxins (not the actual organism), along with purified antigens from pertussis (close to a bacteria version of spike protein). 

    I read once that the reason for using created mRNA instead of virus parts is that growing the virus in quantity would take too long for millions of doses.  I don’t know if this was honestly the reason, but that’s what I read.

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  9. HeavyWater Reagan
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    By Thanksgiving we will be at a point where enough of the country will have some level of immune protection from the virus that it’s not going to spread at the rates we are seeing now.

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  10. HeavyWater Reagan
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    Scientists have wanted to do more research on mRNA vaccines for a long time.  It’s just that there wasn’t enough research money.  Then, when covid hit, Congress appropriated tons of money so they made their mRNA breakthroughs. 

    The mRNA vaccines are safer than the ones we have been taking for other ailments.  It’s just that the conspiracy kooks want to continue to be fearful of the vaccine.  

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  11. MiMac Thatcher
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    I need to get more information on the reason inactivated virus was not used. That is a common route for vaccines, and it would be the first thing any researcher is going to think of. It’s not the only case of a vaccine that does not contain the full organism. The DTaP or Tdap vaccines contain inactivated diptheria and tetanus toxins (not the actual organism), along with purified antigens from pertussis (close to a bacteria version of spike protein).

    I read once that the reason for using created mRNA instead of virus parts is that growing the virus in quantity would take too long for millions of doses. I don’t know if this was honestly the reason, but that’s what I read.

    Not just time- but there are dangers to growing industrial quantities of viruses. This would not be in a high safety bio lab but in an industrial site. Accidents happen and releases have occurred (even leaving out Wuhan). Additionally, the mRNA vaccine can be tweaked to cover new variants much more easily than traditional vaccines.

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  12. The Reticulator Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    If anyone says Malone was an inventor of mRNA vaccine technology you KNOW he is getting ready to feed you misinformation or at least hasn’t a clue about what he is pushing…..it is like saying Ben Franklin was an inventor of light bulb technology….

    Well, he was listed everywhere as the investor of the mRNA instillation process and generally of the vaccine applications until his name recently got out and various sites started to delete his name, his research history, and his invention.

    He himself doesn’t claim to be the inventor. From what I’ve seen so far Malone makes some wild speculations, but is a lot more careful and modest with his language than some of his fans.

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