Let’s Talk About Uma Thurman’s Abortion (Since She Is)

 

I live in Texas where obtaining an abortion after six weeks of gestation is problematic due to a new law that allows citizens to sue those individuals that facilitate an abortion. (Disclosure: I don’t know enough about the law to intelligently comment on it specifically, but I am pro-life so it seems fine to me. Also, I volunteer at and financially support my local crisis pregnancy center.)

Ms. Thurman wrote a piece in the Washington Post revealing her own teenage abortion while complaining that the Texas law creates a human rights crisis. Since Ms. Thurman has revealed such personal information, I have a few questions, comments, and rank speculations about it.

1. Check out the following passage:

“I started my acting career at 15, working in an environment where I was often the only kid in the room. In my late teens, I was accidentally impregnated by a much older man. I was living out of a suitcase in Europe, far from my family, and about to start a job.”

“Late teens,” “impregnated by a much older man”- notice how vague she is here.  My speculation – she was underage and had been impregnated by some executive who worked in the “film industry”. Hollywood is a cesspit.  If she was more forthright about the true nature of the situation, the story would likely turn to the abuse of a teen girl and the abortion as a cover-up for the “much older man”.  Given that many abortions are sought under just these circumstances, Uma doesn’t want to take the spotlight off the women’s empowerment angle to pivot to the sexual predator angle.

2.   Also note that she was “about to start a job” and “was just starting out in my career” at the time.  Once again, the true nature of abortion is revealed.  It’s largely about convenience for the mother and avoiding the “time out” in life it takes to gestate a baby.

3. This passage:

” [the abortion] was the path to the life full of joy and love that I have experienced. Choosing not to keep that early pregnancy allowed me to grow up and become the mother I wanted and needed to be.” (For her other three children that survived the trip out of her womb.)

Selfish, selfish people!  And, now that she is an over-the-hill actress (Hollywood is brutal for women over age 30), I wonder if she will ever regret the absence of the love and joy (and maybe even the heartbreak) of a child that she did not permit to be born?  Maybe she doesn’t and maybe she won’t, but my guess is, as the years roll on, age will clarify to her the real things in life over the accolades of a fickle industry and box-office paychecks.

4.  Why, in these discussions, doesn’t anybody point out that teens/young pregnant women do not have to actually raise the child?  I have been a part of a number of adoptions.  I did one adoption for a teenage girl in which she had the baby, put the baby in the care of the selected adoptive parents, and was discharged from the hospital within 24 hours.  I went to the young lady’s home a few days after birth to get the final relinquishment signed.  She was literally getting dressed to go to her senior prom and if you didn’t know it, you would have never known she had just had a baby.  This is why I say these starlets are selfish – they want the career so badly and they can’t even be bothered to give the baby life and place them for adoption.

How many Hollywood actresses have shouted their abortions and praised it for allowing them the life they now have?  How many Hollywood actress wannabes have had abortions due to “Weinstein” type circumstances and never made it big? So many other women tell stories of being grateful that they did not go through with an abortion and find joy in their child.  Much like suicide, abortion is a permanent solution to a temporary problem or set of circumstances.

I am sad for Uma Thurman.  But mostly I am sad for Ms. Thurman’s child that never took a breath of air due to her “choice”.

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  1. Norm McDonald Had A Farm Coolidge
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    @Pseudodionysius

    In many respects Euripides’ Medea is not a problematic play. It is a singularly bold, clear-cut, assured piece of writing, the concentration and dramatic intensity of which are readily felt by reader or audience and command the respect even of those who find the subject matter repellent or who cavil at the Aegeus scene and the dragon chariot. But its starkness makes it deeply disturbing; and this unease is reflected in the critical literature on the play. The language, though consistently powerful, lacks the rich expansiveness of Hippolytus or Bacchae, almost never allowing us to range in imagination away from the immediate painful situation; it is typical that one of the most prominent of the recurring images is of Medea as a wild beast. Then there is the striking absence of a cosmic frame of reference: we are given no sense of divine motivation or sanction or control. Medea is admittedly grand-daughter of the Sun, but the fact has no theological significance: its function is to symbolize her sense of her heroic identity and – at a different level – to motivate the final scene. The most uncompromising feature of all is Euripides’ handling of the story, his design which makes the murder of the children the centrepiece of the play.

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  2. Flicker Coolidge
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    Dominique Prynne: human rights crisis

    When I read “human rights crisis” used to justify denying someone the ultimate right to Life, all other arguments are trivial by comparison.  And then, yes, of course, it had to do with self-actualization, self-determination, self-esteem, and self-promotion.

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  3. Kozak Member
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    Dominique Prynne: I was accidentally impregnated by a much older man.

    How does one get “accidentally” impregnated.

    Did she bump into the guy in the hallway and whoops, pregnant?

    Nope. She must have made some kind of effort to end up pregnant.

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  4. GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Malpropisms Reagan
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    My sister in law was facing this same dilemma a little over 40 years ago. I suspect that insistence of her parents, and the sanctuary of her older brother who live far enough away, that allowed her to carry the baby to term w/o facing the opprobrium of the small Appalachian community from which she hailed.

    Fast forward, married to my brother, three children, and someone is seeking her birth mother. Initially it was for the genetics conversation since her adopted daughter was starting her cycle of parenthood. It has turning into a loving bond that they share, and to see the two of them together they look and sounds like clones separated by 17 years. 

    My sister in law for years after their reunion has been a bit of an evangelical speaker to the young ladies (via the various crisis mother outreach programs) who are currently in her youthful situation, that they need to consider giving life a chance.

    You never will understand or appreciate that decision until you come full circle with your child. Choose Life.

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  5. Norm McDonald Had A Farm Coolidge
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Dominique Prynne: I was accidentally impregnated by a much older man.

    How does one get “accidentally” impregnated.

    Did she bump into the guy in the hallway and whoops, pregnant?

    Nope. She must have made some kind of effort to end up pregnant.

    It is the well known phenomenon of “semen shedding”. It could happen to anyone who’s not maintaining 6 feet of social distancing.

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  6. Dominique Prynne Member
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    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Ma… (View Comment):

    My sister in law was facing this same dilemma a little over 40 years ago. I suspect that insistence of her parents, and the sanctuary of her older brother who live far enough away, that allowed her to carry the baby to term w/o facing the opprobrium of the small Appalachian community from which she hailed.

    Fast forward, married to my brother, three children, and someone is seeking her birth mother. Initially it was for the genetics conversation since her adopted daughter was starting her cycle of parenthood. It has turning into a loving bond that they share, and to see the two of them together they look and sounds like clones separated by 17 years.

    My sister in law for years after their reunion has been a bit of an evangelical speaker to the young ladies (via the various crisis mother outreach programs) who are currently in her youthful situation, that they need to consider giving life a chance.

    You never will understand or appreciate that decision until you come full circle with your child. Choose Life.

    What a lovely story!  I like “happily ever afters”!

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Heartbreaking. 

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  8. Jim McConnell Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Dominique Prynne: human rights crisis

    When I read “human rights crisis” used to justify denying someone the ultimate right to Life, all other arguments are trivial by comparison. And then, yes, of course, it had to do with self-actualization, self-determination, self-esteem, and self-promotion.

    I think that, mostly.

     

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  9. Basil Fawlty Member
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    That’s a little bit more information than I needed, Uma.

    Nice to see Pseudo back.

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  10. OmegaPaladin Moderator
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    I am not pro-life, but abortion is far too easy to access.  It is usually a surgical procedure , which carries risks for the mother, and the fetus is treated like so much trash.   Lab rats are treated better than a fetus in abortion.

    I think the way around this is to push at the edges legally and use stories like the post partum prom girl to help make the case to girls in trouble.  Most support for abortion is not Leftist reverence for abortion, but based on fear of a life shackled to a crib, buried in diapers, with a screaming baby driving you mad.  Stories where adoption is safe and the mother can get back to her plans quickly are winning narratives for the people considering abortion

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  11. Jim McConnell Inactive
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    When my daughter became pregnant at age 16, we opted for open adoption. She has always been part of her daughter’s life, and my lovely great-granddaughter, pictured with me in my avatar, is the result of all that.

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  12. Basil Fawlty Member
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    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):
    to help make the case to girls in trouble. 

    Say what?

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  13. Flicker Coolidge
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    Norm McDonald Had A Farm (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Dominique Prynne: I was accidentally impregnated by a much older man.

    How does one get “accidentally” impregnated.

    Did she bump into the guy in the hallway and whoops, pregnant?

    Nope. She must have made some kind of effort to end up pregnant.

    It is the well known phenomenon of “semen shedding”. It could happen to anyone who’s not maintaining 6 feet of social distancing.

    This is also a precursor to spontaneous human combustion: sudden, unexpected, explosive insemination.

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  14. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    She was raped. 

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  15. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    She was raped.

    Very likely.  But that doesn’t make the story any better.  It is just sadder for Uma.  It also makes me mad at her mother.  Where were her parents????

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  16. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    I am not pro-life, but abortion is far too easy to access. It is usually a surgical procedure , which carries risks for the mother, and the fetus is treated like so much trash. Lab rats are treated better than a fetus in abortion.

    I think the way around this is to push at the edges legally and use stories like the post partum prom girl to help make the case to girls in trouble. Most support for abortion is not Leftist reverence for abortion, but based on fear of a life shackled to a crib, buried in diapers, with a screaming baby driving you mad. Stories where adoption is safe and the mother can get back to her plans quickly are winning narratives for the people considering abortion

    This undermines the pr0-choice industry, which is not really the same thing as your average American who might think abortion is a necessary evil because they don’t understand the world is full of other choices. 

    Actually, if you convince young women that there are other options, a lot of money is lost.  A lot of political power is lost, too.  You would be admitting that there might be a reason to carry a baby to term. 

    So no.  The options cannot be presented as virtuous.    

    While I don’t doubt that some Americans are very sincere in thinking that abortion is necessary, companies like Planned Parenthood don’t actually gives a hoot about women or their babies except as commodities.  And women must then believe that they have done something good when sacrificing their kids, or the trauma of abortion is impossible to live with.  

    I’m that cynical.  

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  17. Dominique Prynne Member
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    Lois Lane (View Comment):
    I’m that cynical. 

    Me too soul sister!

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  18. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Norm McDonald Had A Farm (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Dominique Prynne: I was accidentally impregnated by a much older man.

    How does one get “accidentally” impregnated.

    Did she bump into the guy in the hallway and whoops, pregnant?

    Nope. She must have made some kind of effort to end up pregnant.

    It is the well known phenomenon of “semen shedding”. It could happen to anyone who’s not maintaining 6 feet of social distancing.

    Inches.

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  19. Full Size Tabby Member
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    A bunch of female athletes also bring up the bases for points 2 and 3 in a brief they submitted in connection with the Mississippi law currently before the U.S. Supreme Court.

    “My life would be drastically different if I had been pregnant and forced to sit that (national championship) race out, because that race changed the course of my life,” Perham wrote [one of the athletes quoted in the brief].”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/09/20/supreme-court-mississippi-abortion-law-women-athletes-warning/8418765002/

    My paraphrase: “MY athletic ambitions are of utmost importance, and I must be permitted to eliminate anything that might get in the way of my ambitions. But I am too weak to keep my knees together.”

    Selfishness does seem to be at the center of many arguments in favor of permitting abortion. 

     

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  20. Jimmy Carter Member
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  21. OmegaPaladin Moderator
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):
    to help make the case to girls in trouble.

    Say what?

    Help make the case for adoption over abortion to girls in a crisis / unwanted pregnancy.

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  22. Henry Castaigne Member
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    I like the story of Steve Jobs. A Middle Eastern guy impregnated a white lady irresponsibly so they gave the child to a more responsible white couple and he made Apple which was a pretty awesome company while he was alive.

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  23. WI Con Member
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    When my daughter became pregnant at age 16, we opted for open adoption. She has always been part of her daughter’s life, and my lovely great-granddaughter, pictured with me in my avatar, is the result of all that.

    My cousin, dear to me, had a birth mother who gave her up for adoption by my late aunt & uncle. I’m so very thankful for her. It’s clarifying to put that that decision in context when you have someone in your life that’s adopted, that’s added so much love and freindship that could ‘never have been’ as a result of a decision taken another way.

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  24. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    Norm McDonald Had A Farm (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Dominique Prynne: I was accidentally impregnated by a much older man.

    How does one get “accidentally” impregnated.

    Did she bump into the guy in the hallway and whoops, pregnant?

    Nope. She must have made some kind of effort to end up pregnant.

    It is the well known phenomenon of “semen shedding”. It could happen to anyone who’s not maintaining 6 feet of social distancing.

    Norm’s looking pretty good, all things considered.

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  25. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):
    to help make the case to girls in trouble.

    Say what?

    Help make the case for adoption over abortion to girls in a crisis / unwanted pregnancy.

    This is what many centers do, but they do not even want to show ultrasounds at abortion mills.  Do you think they are truly talking about adoptions as viable and good?

    California has just passed a law that keeps an abortion “private” from her parents if a girl or young woman is on her parents’ health insurance, as if Planned Parenthood, a business that is invested in the death of children, will guide what could be an extremely vulnerable teenager through her options as lovingly and honestly as her mother and father. 

    But please all Californians, show your Covid vaccination card when you go out to eat or go to work because your medical decisions about your body aren’t private at all when they impact other people!  Even though we know abortion absolutely leads to the death of a person and a great deal of pain for many of the women who have had their “problem” eradicated.  

    Anyway, there is an idea that all those horrible parents will do horrible things to their pregnant daughters, and sometimes they do.  I remember, for example, an old friend from high school who got pregnant, and her parents made her go to an abortion clinic.  They essentially bullied her into the termination.  Her mother dragged her into the car and held her college fund over her head to push her into the procedure.

    Isn’t that horrible?   

    I feel this is because abortion is taken so lightly… a mere medical procedure.  Her mother surely thought she was doing “the right thing” because our culture does not lift up other options at all unless you come from a pretty pro-life place.   

    Can you just think a little about the emotional/spiritual damage done to a young woman who could have possible postponed college for a year and still walked away from a mistake she made while not feeling as I know she ended up feeling?  A great deal deader inside.  Worthless.  Manipulated.  And very, very sad.  

    I don’t know how her life turned out, but I wonder if her essay would look like Uma’s today.  

    I doubt it.  

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  26. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Lois Lane (View Comment):
    And women must then believe that they have done something good when sacrificing their kids, or the trauma of abortion is impossible to live with. 

    Not just doing something “good,” but something liberating. Modern women are taught that giving away the milk for free, so to speak, and then killing off their babies has set them “free.” The whole sexual revolution regime is of Satan.

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  27. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Lois Lane (View Comment):
    And women must then believe that they have done something good when sacrificing their kids, or the trauma of abortion is impossible to live with.

    Not just doing something “good,” but something liberating. Modern women are taught that giving away the milk for free, so to speak, and then killing off their babies has set them “free.” The whole sexual revolution regime is of Satan.

    There was a time in my life in which I would argue with you about the sexual revolution based on my own definitions of liberty, but I have now watched how confused and lost many young adults have become, and I feel at the very least, even if I was not a Catholic who absolutely believes in God and Satan, I would still be able to see that the path we have decided to walk in the West has not led to any place I would remotely call “human flourishing.”   

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  28. Basil Fawlty Member
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    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):
    to help make the case to girls in trouble.

    Say what?

    Help make the case for adoption over abortion to girls in a crisis / unwanted pregnancy.

    Sorry. Hadn’t seen that once-common euphemism used recently.

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  29. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Lois Lane (View Comment):
    And women must then believe that they have done something good when sacrificing their kids, or the trauma of abortion is impossible to live with.

    Not just doing something “good,” but something liberating. Modern women are taught that giving away the milk for free, so to speak, and then killing off their babies has set them “free.” The whole sexual revolution regime is of Satan.

    Lucifer said he didn’t do it. 

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  30. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Lois Lane (View Comment):
    And women must then believe that they have done something good when sacrificing their kids, or the trauma of abortion is impossible to live with.

    Not just doing something “good,” but something liberating. Modern women are taught that giving away the milk for free, so to speak, and then killing off their babies has set them “free.” The whole sexual revolution regime is of Satan.

    Lucifer said he didn’t do it.

    He would say that.

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