A Brief Guide to the COVID-19 Disclosures

 

justice and COVID-19The Intercept’s September 9 article, “NEW DETAILS EMERGE ABOUT CORONAVIRUS RESEARCH AT CHINESE LAB,” has a series of links that point to the 900 pages of official government documents they sued the U.S. government to release. Readers should treat the Intercept article as a guide to these sources.

The Intercept is making the full documents available to the public.

This link points to the complaint, the legal document initiating the civil lawsuit against the NIH.

“This is a road map to the high-risk research that could have led to the current pandemic,” said Gary Ruskin, executive director of U.S. Right To Know, a group that has been investigating the origins of Covid-19.

This link points to a summary of links to key articles.

One of the grants, titled “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence,” outlines an ambitious effort led by EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak to screen thousands of bat samples for novel coronaviruses. The research also involved screening people who work with live animals. The documents contain several critical details about the research in Wuhan, including the fact that key experimental work with humanized mice was conducted at a biosafety level 3 lab at Wuhan University Center for Animal Experiment — and not at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, as was previously assumed.

This link points to 528 pages related to this grant.

The second grant, “Understanding Risk of Zoonotic Virus Emergence in Emerging Infectious Disease Hotspots of Southeast Asia,” was awarded in August 2020 and extends through 2025. The proposal, written in 2019, often seems prescient, focusing on scaling up and deploying resources in Asia in case of an outbreak of an “emergent infectious disease” and referring to Asia as “this hottest of the EID hotspots.”

This link points to 386 pages related to the second grant.

The NIH stalled, and President Trump failed to compel immediate release of this documentation in September 2020, when the Intercept helpfully pointed to their existence and possible importance. Yes, the current regime only complied grudgingly in response to losing in court. The permanent government, the self-proclaimed experts, had no interest in disclosure under any administration, because the information raises questions and enables criticism of the bureaucracy after the national and global consequences of a possible lab-leak were felt by the American public. Disclosure of these documents in the earliest days of the pandemic would likely have neutralized the “expert” claims of Fraudci and the lab coat left.

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  1. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!)
    @DonG

    The Deep State is the enemy of the people.   Many, many people need to be fired.  Spending my money on the wrong things–you’re fired.  Spending money on dangerous things–you’re fired.  Hiding your work–you’re fired.  Not speaking out about pandemic origin–you’re fired!   We’d be safer without these monsters having tax money.

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  2. Old Bathos Moderator
    Old Bathos
    @OldBathos

    This is stunning mostly because of the sheer chutzpah of so many within government agencies to deny the obvious.  Virologists have pointed out the improbability (impossibility?) that COVID-19 emerged naturally.  We know the wet market/bats/pangolin meat narratives were garbage.  We know the pandemic originated practically next door to a lab where this virus was being studied.  We know that the USA was funding this research with the full understanding that all “gain of function” studies are barely one step removed from weaponized viruses.

    The scary thing is that so many no longer care if they are caught lying. As long as they are the new American equivalent of being party members, the media and the legal system will not touch them and they are even protected from social and professional sanctions.

    Think about that.  “Scientists” who share responsibility for the development of COVID-19, who had a vested interest in a cover-up and who flat-out lied to the American people are still employed.  No mobs with torches. 

    Imagine if instead of COVID it were a toxin whose development was funded in part by Exxon. The media lords would have dispatched mobs and the FBI to the homes of everyone involved.

     

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  3. The Reticulator Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    Imagine if instead of COVID it were a toxin whose development was funded in part by Exxon. The media lords would have dispatched mobs and the FBI to the homes of everyone involved.

    Imagine if you could get John Lennon to put this to music. 

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  4. MarciN Member
    MarciN
    @MarciN

    There is almost no attention to ethics in most of the scientific world. The worst example of this failure to me is the continued existence of frozen embryos that no one knows what to do with. The in vitro fertilization (IVF) scientists and industry continue to engage in procedures with this result, which continues to worsen the problem that we will all have to solve someday because of their irresponsibility.

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  5. Unsk Member
    Unsk
    @Unsk

    Old Bathos:

       “The scary thing is that so many no longer care if they are caught lying. As long as they are the new American equivalent of being party members, the media and the legal system will not touch them and they are even protected from social and professional sanctions.

    Think about that.  “Scientists” who share responsibility for the development of COVID-19, who had a vested interest in a cover-up and who flat-out lied to the American people are still employed.  No mobs with torches. “

    The brazenness of the criminality is breathtaking and frightening.

    If I may, a little rewrite:

    Think about that.  “Scientists” who share responsibility for the development of COVID-19, who had a vested interest in a cover-up and who flat-out lied to the American people  are  the ones who are insisting we take these incredibly dangerous mRNA vaccines and are pushing criminal penalties for those who  refuse.  People are either dying or are being serious maimed by these vaccines in droves. The whole of government has gone mad. Dr Strangelove rules and is celebrated by many here at this site. 

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  6. Rodin Member
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    @Rodin

    Virology research raises the issue of “dual use” problems. That is, there is basic research that is good to know and may be important in developing countermeasures to naturally arising viruses, and there is applications for bioweapons. That China would not explore bioweapons potential was naive in the extreme. Fauci’s naïveté (if naïveté it was) arose from his role of training many of the leading Chinese virologists. Why? Because China sent promising students to the US to study decades ago. Early in 2020 he stated that we could rely on what the Chinese virologists were telling us because he knew so many of them personally. This turned out to be a disastrous belief. Cosseted in federal bureaucracy for decades, Fauci had mastered the art of the spin. No doubt this spin was “for the greater good” as he saw it. But even worse was his failure to take the measure of China and how regardless of the good that may have been in the students he taught so long ago, the system was going to make it impossible for truths to be told. At a (lesser?) level Fauci had to know this, given his own history with how even a somewhat benign government works.

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  7. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    The Deep State is the enemy of the people. Many, many people need to be fired.

    In the sense of being in front of a firing squad.

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  8. Kozak Member
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    Damn.

    DARPA ( which funds some really dark stuff) thought the research was too dangerous.

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  9. Flicker Coolidge
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Damn.

    DARPA ( which funds some really dark stuff) thought the research was too dangerous.

    That was a first.

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  10. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    There is almost no attention to ethics in most of the scientific world. The worst example of this failure to me is the continued existence of frozen embryos that no one knows what to do with. The in vitro fertilization (IVF) scientists and industry continue to engage in procedures with this result, which continues to worsen the problem that we will all have to solve someday because of their irresponsibility.

    I have wondered some about why so many think they have a right to a baby and at the same time deny any rights to the embryos they are responsible for.  

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  11. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    @DaveSchmidt

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Virology research raises the issue of “dual use” problems. That is, there is basic research that is good to know and may be important in developing countermeasures to naturally arising viruses, and there is applications for bioweapons. That China would not explore bioweapons potential was naive in the extreme. Fauci’s naïveté (if naïveté it was) arose from his role of training many of the leading Chinese virologists. Why? Because China sent promising students to the US to study decades ago. Early in 2020 he stated that we could rely on what the Chinese virologists were telling us because he knew so many of them personally. This turned out to be a disastrous belief. Cosseted in federal bureaucracy for decades, Fauci had mastered the art of the spin. No doubt this spin was “for the greater good” as he saw it. But even worse was his failure to take the measure of China and how regardless of the good that may have been in the students he taught so long ago, the system was going to make it impossible for truths to be told. At a (lesser?) level Fauci had to know this, given his own history with how even a somewhat benign government works.

    I hope at some point the name Fauci will become a label of ridicule.  

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  12. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Virology research raises the issue of “dual use” problems. That is, there is basic research that is good to know and may be important in developing countermeasures to naturally arising viruses, and there is applications for bioweapons. That China would not explore bioweapons potential was naive in the extreme. Fauci’s naïveté (if naïveté it was) arose from his role of training many of the leading Chinese virologists. Why? Because China sent promising students to the US to study decades ago. Early in 2020 he stated that we could rely on what the Chinese virologists were telling us because he knew so many of them personally. This turned out to be a disastrous belief. Cosseted in federal bureaucracy for decades, Fauci had mastered the art of the spin. No doubt this spin was “for the greater good” as he saw it. But even worse was his failure to take the measure of China and how regardless of the good that may have been in the students he taught so long ago, the system was going to make it impossible for truths to be told. At a (lesser?) level Fauci had to know this, given his own history with how even a somewhat benign government works.

    Yes. Fauci already knew how Chinese scientists would behave if there was bad news about a disease starting in China. They would be part of the coverup or disappeared. He knew this from the SARS outbreak about 15 years ago. The CCP does not allow criticism or bad news that might somehow reflect poorly on the government, which is the CCP. Fauci knew this.

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  13. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Damn.

    DARPA ( which funds some really dark stuff) thought the research was too dangerous.

    This bears repeating in headlines.

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  14. Flicker Coolidge
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Virology research raises the issue of “dual use” problems. That is, there is basic research that is good to know and may be important in developing countermeasures to naturally arising viruses, and there is applications for bioweapons. That China would not explore bioweapons potential was naive in the extreme. Fauci’s naïveté (if naïveté it was) arose from his role of training many of the leading Chinese virologists. Why? Because China sent promising students to the US to study decades ago. Early in 2020 he stated that we could rely on what the Chinese virologists were telling us because he knew so many of them personally. This turned out to be a disastrous belief. Cosseted in federal bureaucracy for decades, Fauci had mastered the art of the spin. No doubt this spin was “for the greater good” as he saw it. But even worse was his failure to take the measure of China and how regardless of the good that may have been in the students he taught so long ago, the system was going to make it impossible for truths to be told. At a (lesser?) level Fauci had to know this, given his own history with how even a somewhat benign government works.

    I hope at some point the name Fauci will become a label of ridicule.

    You mean Dr. Facui?  (This was a typo at Ace of Spades but I like it.)

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  15. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    @DaveSchmidt

    Flicker (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Virology research raises the issue of “dual use” problems. That is, there is basic research that is good to know and may be important in developing countermeasures to naturally arising viruses, and there is applications for bioweapons. That China would not explore bioweapons potential was naive in the extreme. Fauci’s naïveté (if naïveté it was) arose from his role of training many of the leading Chinese virologists. Why? Because China sent promising students to the US to study decades ago. Early in 2020 he stated that we could rely on what the Chinese virologists were telling us because he knew so many of them personally. This turned out to be a disastrous belief. Cosseted in federal bureaucracy for decades, Fauci had mastered the art of the spin. No doubt this spin was “for the greater good” as he saw it. But even worse was his failure to take the measure of China and how regardless of the good that may have been in the students he taught so long ago, the system was going to make it impossible for truths to be told. At a (lesser?) level Fauci had to know this, given his own history with how even a somewhat benign government works.

    I hope at some point the name Fauci will become a label of ridicule.

    You mean Dr. Facui? (This was a typo at Ace of Spades but I like it.)

    Yes. Spelling and attention to details are not my strengths.   

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  16. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Dr. Fascist.

    • #16
  17. Rodin Member
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    @Rodin

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Dr. Fascist.

    Well, actually Dr. Il Duce. Funny how everyone thought President Trump was the reincarnation of Il Duce when it was really Fauci all along.  

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  18. The Reticulator Member
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    @TheReticulator

    Rodin (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Dr. Fascist.

    Well, actually Dr. Il Duce. Funny how everyone thought President Trump was the reincarnation of Il Duce when it was really Fauci all along.

    Not everyone. 

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  19. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    The Deep State is the enemy of the people. Many, many people need to be fired. Spending my money on the wrong things–you’re fired. Spending money on dangerous things–you’re fired. Hiding your work–you’re fired. Not speaking out about pandemic origin–you’re fired! We’d be safer without these monsters having tax money.

    How can someone like Fauci speak out on the origin of COVID when he knows:

    1: exactly who created and weaponized AIDS?

    2: exactly who created and weaponized SARS?

    3: exactly how COVID came into being?

    4: exactly what was going on at the Univ of North Carolina lab?

     

     

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  20. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    Unsk (View Comment):

    Old Bathos:

    “The scary thing is that so many no longer care if they are caught lying. As long as they are the new American equivalent of being party members, the media and the legal system will not touch them and they are even protected from social and professional sanctions.

    Think about that. “Scientists” who share responsibility for the development of COVID-19, who had a vested interest in a cover-up and who flat-out lied to the American people are still employed. No mobs with torches. “

    The brazenness of the criminality is breathtaking and frightening.

    If I may, a little rewrite:

    Think about that. “Scientists” who share responsibility for the development of COVID-19, who had a vested interest in a cover-up and who flat-out lied to the American people are the ones who are insisting we take these incredibly dangerous mRNA vaccines and are pushing criminal penalties for those who refuse. People are either dying or are being serious maimed by these vaccines in droves. The whole of government has gone mad. Dr Strangelove rules and is celebrated by many here at this site.

    Well many who celebrate Dr Strangelove here  live and breathe the science of “I got the vaccine and six weeks later, I am still alive and well.” As though anyone ever suggested those getting jabbed would all be dead within a week.

     

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