What a Real Opposition Party Would Do

 

This is great stuff. I won’t post the whole article, of course, because you need to give them the clicks. But, this is my favorite bit:

No excuses, no quarter. I don’t care if it’s difficult. It is the business of leaders to lead, not to hide or fiddle or pshaw away existential threats like all these while their cities and country burn. If Republicans can’t do difficult things for the sake of a country in peril, they don’t deserve to be in office.

This article sums up the difference between Never Trump and those of us who supported Trump. The Never Trump wing closet holds most of the elected officials. They don’t want to stop the Democrats at all.

I have long been done with listening to the people who give excuses instead of results when the Democrats do nothing but win.

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  1. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):
    If “populism” is defined as “balancing out corporate fascism”, I’d like more populism, please.  In the real world, corporate fascism is the same thing as socialism. 

    I believe “populism” as defined by Establishment Republicans means you want secure borders, trade agreements that do not benefit our adversaries, and avoidance of pointless, multi-generational wars.

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  2. Brian Clendinen Inactive
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    The same can be said for Trump. Any halfway competent leadership expert will clearly tell you. Especially when you get to hire everyone who works for you. Not putting the right people in place to implement your agenda, is no-one fault but the leadership.

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  3. Franco Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):
    If “populism” is defined as “balancing out corporate fascism”, I’d like more populism, please. In the real world, corporate fascism is the same thing as socialism.

    I believe “populism” as defined by Establishment Republicans means you want secure borders, trade agreements that do not benefit our adversaries, and avoidance of pointless, multi-generational wars.

    I agree. But it’s even worse. The GOPe define populism as “what voters want”. Can’t have that

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  4. Franco Member
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    Brian Clendinen (View Comment):

    The same can be said for Trump. Any halfway competent leadership expert will clearly tell you. Especially when you get to hire everyone who works for you. Not putting the right people in place to implement your agenda, is no-one fault but the leadership.

    I agree in principle, but Trump was an anomaly – for better or worse. He had to rent people who had other benefactors. Wherever he turned in the Republican resume bin were Bushies, and more Bushies, some McCainiac Generals, and there was Paul Ryan and McConnell and the FBI and CIA along with the media slandering him daily. I’ll give him a pass on that charge. You tell me, who should he have appointed to his cabinet? 

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  5. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    Franco (View Comment):
    I agree in principle, but Trump was an anomaly – for better or worse.

    Perhaps Trump’s greatest mistake was believing that Bush Republicans really meant it when they claimed to respect the office of the president, no matter who held it.

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  6. Franco Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    I agree in principle, but Trump was an anomaly – for better or worse.

    Perhaps Trump’s greatest mistake was believing that Bush Republicans really meant it when they claimed to respect the office of the president, no matter who held it.

    Mine too.

    My biggest mistake was thinking Bush was a conservative – or that any of them were. When they decided to run Jeb – who would have been the third consecutive President from the same immediate family from one party had he won (which he wouldn’t), I was done with the [REDACTED].

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Franco (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    I agree in principle, but Trump was an anomaly – for better or worse.

    Perhaps Trump’s greatest mistake was believing that Bush Republicans really meant it when they claimed to respect the office of the president, no matter who held it.

    Mine too.

    Yeag

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  8. Bob Thompson Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    I agree in principle, but Trump was an anomaly – for better or worse.

    Perhaps Trump’s greatest mistake was believing that Bush Republicans really meant it when they claimed to respect the office of the president, no matter who held it.

    Mine too.

    Yeag

    I didn’t pay enough attention to the details and the relationships until Obama was POTUS.  During his eight years I learned enough to be ready for Trump. Then I really learned just how evil and vicious Republicans can be.

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  9. philo Member
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Highlights from my first address to Congress:

    I will veto any continuing resolution
    I will veto any omnibus bill
    I will veto any bill over 50 pages long
    I will veto any bill that covers more than one subject
    If a bill requires any enacting regulations, they had better be stapled to the bill when it gets to me or I will veto it

    “I will veto any bill that does not accurately and explicitly state up front (to my satisfaction) the Constitutional authority under which Congress presumes it has the right to act on the matter. P.S. They only get one shot, so it better be good.”

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  10. BDB Inactive
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    Nice FP, BGS!

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  11. RufusRJones Member
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    This is an excellent discussion.

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  12. RufusRJones Member
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    Three minutes.

     

     

     

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  13. I Walton Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Three minutes.

     

    T

     

    This is dead on, the only problem is that it assumes that a country as vast and diverse as the US could actually be run from the top if we just got the right people.  It can’t be.  We have no choice but allow the top power in foreign and defense policy but that’s why extreme caution and conservatism is required in all such matters.   Everything else requires bumbling along while free people create wealth.  Economies of scale have changed that reality and had we time, we’d have to fix it but it’s probably too late.

     

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  14. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    Django (View Comment):
    Vote Republican because … well … uh … we really like being in office. Just don’t give us a majority. 

    Keep them coming, I might compile a list. Here’s another: 

    Vote Republican:  Compared to the Libertarians, our record of success doesn’t look as bad.

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  15. Django Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    Vote Republican because … well … uh … we really like being in office. Just don’t give us a majority.

    Keep them coming, I might compile a list. Here’s another:

    Vote Republican: Compared to the Libertarians, our record of success doesn’t look as bad.

    Vote Republican: We won’t make things that much worse. And the Democrats will still be in power. 

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  16. Bishop Wash Member
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    Vote Republican: But not all of you. We don’t actually want to be in charge. Just enough to make it appear we are an opposition party.

    Vote Republican: Remember the good old days when Bob Michel was Minority Leader?

    Vote Republican: All the government of Democrats with none of the racism.

     

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  17. Django Member
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    Vote Republican: We’re the political version of The Washington Generals. 

    ( Just in case I’m the only one who remembers: Washington Generals – Wikipedia )

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  18. Bishop Wash Member
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    Vote Republican: It doesn’t really matter, you’ll get the same policies. Why not mix it up this year?

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  19. Django Member
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    Vote Republican: We’re so honest that if we win, we’ll demand a recount and an audit. 

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  20. GeezerBob Coolidge
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    It stopped me at the “murdered unborn children item”. I believe that has been shown to be false.

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  21. BDB Inactive
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    Vote Republican: For shorter sentence in Gulag.

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  22. Judge Mental Member
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    Vote Republican: Okay, we can’t think of a reason either.

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  23. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    Vote Republican because … well … uh … we really like being in office. Just don’t give us a majority.

    Keep them coming, I might compile a list. Here’s another:

    Vote Republican: Compared to the Libertarians, our record of success doesn’t look as bad.

    I don’t think I can agree with this.  While ineffective and a waste of effort, the Libertarians have been the least destructive of the major minor parties. 

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    Vote Republican because … well … uh … we really like being in office. Just don’t give us a majority.

    Keep them coming, I might compile a list. Here’s another:

    Vote Republican: Compared to the Libertarians, our record of success doesn’t look as bad.

    I don’t think I can agree with this. While ineffective and a waste of effort, the Libertarians have been the least destructive of the major minor parties.

    It’s not helpful when they take votes away from the GOP and a Democrat gets in. The LP needs to focus on offices below state cabinet and try to hold power there before they do anything else. 

    If a libertarian doesn’t know how to be educational with interviews or publicity stunts, they are worthless above a certain level of political power. i.e. Justin Amash

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  25. BDB Inactive
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    Vote Republican because … well … uh … we really like being in office. Just don’t give us a majority.

    Keep them coming, I might compile a list. Here’s another:

    Vote Republican: Compared to the Libertarians, our record of success doesn’t look as bad.

    I don’t think I can agree with this. While ineffective and a waste of effort, the Libertarians have been the least destructive of the major minor parties.

    Thanks to that zero success rate.

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  26. Max Knots Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    The fundamental problem with our government is we have a Legislature that refuses to Legislate. They just pass generic bills that say “the executive will…”

    We haven’t even had a real budget since sometime in the Clinton Administration!

     

    Indeed.

    I have said at POTUS, I would use my power over the Executive to kick that all back to Congress and tell them they must legislate.

    And I am not signing anything that is not a budget.

     

    Highlights from my first address to Congress:

    I will veto any continuing resolution
    I will veto any omnibus bill
    I will veto any bill over 50 pages long
    I will veto any bill that covers more than one subject
    If a bill requires any enacting regulations, they had better be stapled to the bill when it gets to me or I will veto it

    You get the idea. Make them pass the actual laws, make them consider issues one at a time, rather than the gigantic mutual scratchfests, and porkapaloozas. In other words, do your [CoC] jobs.

    I am with you.

    Ditto!

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  27. Western Chauvinist Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Three minutes.

     

     

     

    Just saw this clip at Hillsdale. Professor Portteus was the first speaker at the CCA which ended tonight. Roger Kimball, Michael Barone, Charles Kesler, John R. Lott, Jr, Michael Knowles,Philip Klein. . .Wish you all had been here. 

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