Finding Out Who My Friends Are…

 

On the whole, I enjoyed college. I enjoyed football, I enjoyed track, and I enjoyed girls. I tolerated bookwork. I excelled at the first three, but struggled with the fourth. I would study in six- or eight-minute segments, for 14 hours at a time, because I hated it so much. But despite my difficulties with focus and memorization, I persevered and did well enough to get my Caucasian butt into medical school. So it all worked out.

Medical school was much worse. No football, no track, no girls. Only lots and lots of bookwork. It was absolutely horrible. I survived, but it was a miserable four years. Because I was so unhappy during that period of my life, I haven’t really kept in touch with any of my friends from that time. I don’t have a lot of doctor friends now, either, come to think of it. Doctors are sort of a weird group. They’re not all normal like me. But anyway, I haven’t kept in touch with my medical school friends as I should have.

After 25 years, I finally decided to reach out to one of my friends from that time. He included me in a running group text with me and him and a half dozen other classmates from my med school class. They text back and forth about football scores and funny memes and such. Nothing of any significance – just fun stuff – which was fine with me. And then one of them texted the following Tweet:

Another one of my friends responded with three laughing emojis. How clever!

I knew that I was probably the only conservative in the group. They were all leftists in school like they’re supposed to be. And I presumed that they all wanted to be perceived as open-minded and deep thinkers, so they would avoid any appearances of independent thought. They instinctively understand the Bernie Sanders rule of philosophy – the surest way to demonstrate original thinking is to never have an original thought during your entire life. And if you do, you never publicly admit it.

So I should probably let this slide, right?

Then, I thought, well, they haven’t spoken to me for 25 years. Who cares about the next 25? Right? So I responded to the Texas Tweet:

I suspect that the governors of Texas and California will be splitting the cost of putting that Tweet on billboards all over California, so that any Californians who have not yet moved to Texas might consider staying in California.

Worth a try. But it probably won’t work.

There was so much chatter on this group text for the past couple of weeks, I had to turn off the sound notifications because it was keeping me up at night. Now I haven’t gotten a new text in three days. I texted some stuff today about the Ohio State game, with no reply from anybody.

If my point is so wrong, you would think that all these smart guys would be jumping at the opportunity to explain to me what an idiot I am. But they didn’t even try. They just black-balled me.

Which I figured they might. And I guess I just didn’t care. They’re probably enjoying themselves more without my input. Which is fine by me. But not for them, if you think about it.

America has changed. Americans have changed. We choose a tribe, and our perceived value to society is determined not by our value to society, but rather by our loyalty to whatever tribe we chose. Friendship doesn’t matter. Our shared love of America doesn’t matter. Tolerance and empathy don’t matter. Only loyalty to whatever tribe you chose matters. Regardless of how dysfunctional your tribe is. Nothing else matters.

So you can’t be friends with anybody if you disagree with them about anything. What an empty existence it must be when you intentionally abandon everything that makes you human.

There is a reason that our society feels so foreign, and our politics seem so dysfunctional. America seems different. I miss it. I miss it a lot.

I miss my friends, too. But not as much. They chose their tribe. I chose them, but it didn’t matter. So I won’t lose any sleep over it.

But geez. I miss America. I really do…

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Lawst N. Thawt (View Comment):

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    Skyler (View Comment):

    We cannot reason with such people. They have become monsters justifying terrorism and racism so long as it is in service of showing that they are fundamentally flawed as white people. It’s a perversion of Christian belief of self-sacrifice. If they do penance, and force others to do penance for the sins of history then they are more welcomed into a state of grace.

    The worst evils are perversions of the greatest things. Lucifer was the greatest of angels and became the Prince of demons. Our secular culture has not transcended religion, instead it has perverted the Christian religion, the soul of Western Civilization, and made its virtues into vices, as you point out.

    The Christian virtue of Charity has been perverted into unquestioning support of the welfare state, the glorious Gospel Truth of equality before God (“the first shall be last and the last shall be first”) has been twisted into the secular demand for equity, and on and on.

    The cure for bad religion is good religion. I think it is going to require a genuine and thoroughgoing Christian revival before this comes to an end.

     

    There is a book about that.

    I had a thought that I thought was my new thought I had thought all on my own. But then remembered this exchange, so maybe not entirely my thoughts alone.

    The reason some people get so bent when discussing political ideas is their political beliefs are, perhaps, the only religion they have or their political thoughts are more believable to them than whatever religion they think they have. It is a very natural thing to defend one’s religious beliefs and shun those that would question them. This concept seems to explain a great deal about the way some have behaved in recent months and back through life as well.

    It’s not that complicated. Christianity teaches people to sacrifice. Many people adopt that mentality and apply it where it is terribly inappropriate.

    Sounds like what Dennis Prager used to say – and may still say – about Europe learning the wrong lesson from WW I and II:  They didn’t learn to fight evil, they learned that fighting IS evil.

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  2. Flicker Coolidge
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Lawst N. Thawt (View Comment):

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    J Climacus (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    We cannot reason with such people. They have become monsters justifying terrorism and racism so long as it is in service of showing that they are fundamentally flawed as white people. It’s a perversion of Christian belief of self-sacrifice. If they do penance, and force others to do penance for the sins of history then they are more welcomed into a state of grace.

    The worst evils are perversions of the greatest things. Lucifer was the greatest of angels and became the Prince of demons. Our secular culture has not transcended religion, instead it has perverted the Christian religion, the soul of Western Civilization, and made its virtues into vices, as you point out.

    The Christian virtue of Charity has been perverted into unquestioning support of the welfare state, the glorious Gospel Truth of equality before God (“the first shall be last and the last shall be first”) has been twisted into the secular demand for equity, and on and on.

    The cure for bad religion is good religion. I think it is going to require a genuine and thoroughgoing Christian revival before this comes to an end.

     

    There is a book about that.

    I had a thought that I thought was my new thought I had thought all on my own. But then remembered this exchange, so maybe not entirely my thoughts alone.

    The reason some people get so bent when discussing political ideas is their political beliefs are, perhaps, the only religion they have or their political thoughts are more believable to them than whatever religion they think they have. It is a very natural thing to defend one’s religious beliefs and shun those that would question them. This concept seems to explain a great deal about the way some have behaved in recent months and back through life as well.

    It’s not that complicated. Christianity teaches people to sacrifice. Many people adopt that mentality and apply it where it is terribly inappropriate.

    I don’t see this as having anything to do with Christian sacrifice, in fact quite the opposite.  They treat their political thoughts as an opposing religion in itself.

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  3. Percival Thatcher
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Lawst N. Thawt (View Comment):

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    Skyler (View Comment):

    We cannot reason with such people. They have become monsters justifying terrorism and racism so long as it is in service of showing that they are fundamentally flawed as white people. It’s a perversion of Christian belief of self-sacrifice. If they do penance, and force others to do penance for the sins of history then they are more welcomed into a state of grace.

    The worst evils are perversions of the greatest things. Lucifer was the greatest of angels and became the Prince of demons. Our secular culture has not transcended religion, instead it has perverted the Christian religion, the soul of Western Civilization, and made its virtues into vices, as you point out.

    The Christian virtue of Charity has been perverted into unquestioning support of the welfare state, the glorious Gospel Truth of equality before God (“the first shall be last and the last shall be first”) has been twisted into the secular demand for equity, and on and on.

    The cure for bad religion is good religion. I think it is going to require a genuine and thoroughgoing Christian revival before this comes to an end.

     

    There is a book about that.

    I had a thought that I thought was my new thought I had thought all on my own. But then remembered this exchange, so maybe not entirely my thoughts alone.

    The reason some people get so bent when discussing political ideas is their political beliefs are, perhaps, the only religion they have or their political thoughts are more believable to them than whatever religion they think they have. It is a very natural thing to defend one’s religious beliefs and shun those that would question them. This concept seems to explain a great deal about the way some have behaved in recent months and back through life as well.

    It’s not that complicated. Christianity teaches people to sacrifice. Many people adopt that mentality and apply it where it is terribly inappropriate.

    I don’t see this as having anything to do with Christian sacrifice, in fact quite the opposite. They treat their political thoughts as an opposing religion in itself.

    They are free to think about it that way, but in fact their political thoughts have supplanted religion.

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  4. Western Chauvinist Member
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    I think Skyler’s statement needs refined. Christianity teaches the nobleness of self-sacrifice in imitation of Christ.

    Leftism expects others to sacrifice on the leftists’ (or their constituencies’) behalf. You take the jab for the collective’s benefit. You rich person pay more taxes to make up for those who can’t afford to pay. You should stop driving “gas-guzzlers” and take public transportation or buy an electric car you can’t afford to “save the planet.”

    The Left is really the Borg. You will assimilate. Even though they mouth platitudes about “diversity,” the Left demands conformity. Burn the heretics!!

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  5. Lawst N. Thawt Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I think Skyler’s statement needs refined. Christianity teaches the nobleness of self-sacrifice in imitation of Christ.

    Leftism expects others to sacrifice on the leftists’ (or their constituencies’) behalf. You take the jab for the collective’s benefit. You rich person pay more taxes to make up for those who can’t afford to pay. You should stop driving “gas-guzzlers” and take public transportation or buy an electric car you can’t afford to “save the planet.”

    The Left is really the Borg. You will assimilate. Even though they mouth platitudes about “diversity,” the Left demands conformity. Burn the heretics!!

    Mixing in a little from a long time ago, I think they can be turned from the dark side.   They just need to see something that gives them a better explanation for their life.

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  6. Skyler Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Sounds like what Dennis Prager used to say – and may still say – about Europe learning the wrong lesson from WW I and II:  They didn’t learn to fight evil, they learned that fighting IS evil.

    No, they learned that they don’t have to pay for fighting.

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  7. Skyler Coolidge
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    I think Skyler’s statement needs refined. Christianity teaches the nobleness of self-sacrifice in imitation of Christ.

    (Shhh . . .  Don’t tell anybody.  It’s not noble.)

    The mistaken ideal of “self-sacrifice” has had the consequence that many in our culture do think that sacrifice to others, even undiscerning sacrifice, is good and if some sacrifice is good, then a lot must be better; and if it’s that good then they need to make sure others sacrifice too.  And then in come the politicians.

    And that’s exactly how the communist movement has used BLM.

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  8. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    Tedley (View Comment): I have to wonder whether normal people actually accept them, or facially say they concur to avoid being outed and ostracized. They wouldn’t want to be considered Republicans or conservatives, because the leftists in mainstream media have demonized Republicans for so long that it’s easy for low-information types to just unthinkingly accept it as fact.

    Most people care only about avoiding conflict and being approved of. They will say and do anything so long as social pressure demands it.

    We might be even murdery than we already are if we stuck to principles we came up with as individuals. 

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  9. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    An article from the Wapo about lefties moving to Texas had this quote:  

    “And Longley was pleasantly surprised that people in Texas talk about things other than politics.

    “When you’re in that D.C. bubble, it seems like just everything’s on high alert in terms of political news all the time,” he said. “It weighs down my psyche.””

    Even lefties know their obsessions are unhealthy.

    the article was reprinted in the San Antonio Express-News today but I think it’s behind a paywall at both sites.

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/texas-relocation-newcomers-politics/2021/09/14/bf759c40-0c21-11ec-aea1-42a8138f132a_story.html

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  10. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    I think Skyler’s statement needs refined. Christianity teaches the nobleness of self-sacrifice in imitation of Christ.

    (Shhh . . . Don’t tell anybody. It’s not noble.)

    The mistaken ideal of “self-sacrifice” has had the consequence that many in our culture do think that sacrifice to others, even undiscerning sacrifice, is good and if some sacrifice is good, then a lot must be better; and if it’s that good then they need to make sure others sacrifice too. And then in come the politicians.

    And that’s exactly how the communist movement has used BLM.

    There is nothing the devil can’t corrupt. Have you noticed?

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  11. Doctor Robert Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    We were always very close and now because he has been steeped in communist propaganda and communist ideology we’re done as a family.

    I think that breaking up families is one of the stated goals of communism, including/especially BLM.

    Absolutely true.  There can be no loyalty greater than that to the state.  A family, a church, an ethnic group, these are all threatening to the state.

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  12. Doctor Robert Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):
    We were always very close and now because he has been steeped in communist propaganda and communist ideology we’re done as a family.

    I think that breaking up families is one of the stated goals of communism, including/especially BLM.

    Absolutely true.  There can be no loyalty greater than that to the state.  A family, a church, an ethnic group, these are all threatening to the state.

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  13. Stad Coolidge
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Lawst N. Thawt (View Comment):
    In the same movie Blue Boy (Roman Gabriel), the adopted Native American son of Thomas falls for Charlotte (Melissa Newman) the daughter of Langdon and she for him.

    Roman Gabriel the Rams quarterback?

    One of the eleven football players from NC State who had his number retired . . .

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  14. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I don’t mean this to be funny. There’s nothing funny about this. But do you think your brother actually thought the reporter was right when he characterized the burning town behind him as “mostly peaceful protests”?

    Yes, he did. Antifa is not real. It’s in our imagination. I’m not kidding. Those were his words. Those riots didn’t happen, they were imagined.

    When I pointed to the BLM incident where BLM went into a restaurant very near to his own home and tried to force people to raise their fists in support, that wasn’t really BLM, you see. Because everyone knows that BLM is peaceful and many of the people acting up at that restaurant were white, and white people cannot be part of BLM. White people can only stand aside respectfully when BLM terrorizes people, because we must allow them to lead their own movement. And besides, why wouldn’t those diners raise their fists to show support for ending their own white racist past?

    We cannot reason with such people. They have become monsters justifying terrorism and racism so long as it is in service of showing that they are fundamentally flawed as white people. It’s a perversion of Christian belief of self-sacrifice. If they do penance, and force others to do penance for the sins of history then they are more welcomed into a state of grace.

    It’s sick.

    See George Orwell’s 1984 and the concept of Doublethink: Your brother simultaneously knows both that the riots were peaceful and that the violence was real and laudable.

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  15. BDB Inactive
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    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):
    Your brother simultaneously knows both that the riots were peaceful and that the violence was real and laudable.

    This is key.  Just as you cannot wake a man who only pretends to sleep, you cannot convince those who argue nonsense with conviction.  They know it is nonsense, and they rejected your argument before you began to speak.  

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  16. RufusRJones Member
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    BDB (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):
    Your brother simultaneously knows both that the riots were peaceful and that the violence was real and laudable.

    This is key. Just as you cannot wake a man who only pretends to sleep, you cannot convince those who argue nonsense with conviction. They know it is nonsense, and they rejected your argument before you began to speak.

    “Define assault weapon” lol 

    They think that anger and “intimidation” makes up for data. lol

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  17. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Dr. Bastiat: There is a reason that our society feels so foreign, and our politics seem so dysfunctional. America seems different. I miss it. I miss it a lot.

    This graphic shows that the divide is mostly due to the Democrats’ shift to the left–even the far left.

    One can also make a good case that conservatives’ shift to the right is largely in reaction to liberals’ growing intolerance and extremism. Remember this old quip? “Conservatives think liberals are well meaning but wrong, while liberals think conservatives are evil.” That is not as true as it used to be, for the aforementioned reason.

     

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  18. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):
    Your brother simultaneously knows both that the riots were peaceful and that the violence was real and laudable.

    This is key. Just as you cannot wake a man who only pretends to sleep, you cannot convince those who argue nonsense with conviction. They know it is nonsense, and they rejected your argument before you began to speak.

    “Define assault weapon” lol

    They think that anger and “intimidation” makes up for data. lol

    The postmodern left has dispensed with the need for evidence and logic.

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  19. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    I think Skyler’s statement needs refined. Christianity teaches the nobleness of self-sacrifice in imitation of Christ.

    (Shhh . . . Don’t tell anybody. It’s not noble.)

    The mistaken ideal of “self-sacrifice” has had the consequence that many in our culture do think that sacrifice to others, even undiscerning sacrifice, is good and if some sacrifice is good, then a lot must be better; and if it’s that good then they need to make sure others sacrifice too. And then in come the politicians.

    And that’s exactly how the communist movement has used BLM.

    There is nothing the devil can’t corrupt. Have you noticed?

    There is nothing that humanity can’t corrupt. Lucifer has stop interfering with us since the binding of Isaac. 

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  20. BDB Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):
    Your brother simultaneously knows both that the riots were peaceful and that the violence was real and laudable.

    This is key. Just as you cannot wake a man who only pretends to sleep, you cannot convince those who argue nonsense with conviction. They know it is nonsense, and they rejected your argument before you began to speak.

    “Define assault weapon” lol

    They think that anger and “intimidation” makes up for data. lol

    Doesn’t it?  I mean in the real world?

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  21. RufusRJones Member
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    BDB (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):
    Your brother simultaneously knows both that the riots were peaceful and that the violence was real and laudable.

    This is key. Just as you cannot wake a man who only pretends to sleep, you cannot convince those who argue nonsense with conviction. They know it is nonsense, and they rejected your argument before you began to speak.

    “Define assault weapon” lol

    They think that anger and “intimidation” makes up for data. lol

    Doesn’t it? I mean in the real world?

    We are not a nation of laws, we are a nation of political will.  – Steve Deace

    The Government Is Running Out Of Money™

    Everything Moves Towards Communism All Of The Time™

    Everything Moves Left All Of The Time

    The Purpose Of Education Is Indoctrination, And To Steal From The Parents, Students, And Taxpayers™

    YES!

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  22. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    I think Skyler’s statement needs refined. Christianity teaches the nobleness of self-sacrifice in imitation of Christ.

    (Shhh . . . Don’t tell anybody. It’s not noble.)

    The mistaken ideal of “self-sacrifice” has had the consequence that many in our culture do think that sacrifice to others, even undiscerning sacrifice, is good and if some sacrifice is good, then a lot must be better; and if it’s that good then they need to make sure others sacrifice too. And then in come the politicians.

    And that’s exactly how the communist movement has used BLM.

    There is nothing the devil can’t corrupt. Have you noticed?

    There is nothing that humanity can’t corrupt. Lucifer has stop interfering with us since the binding of Isaac.

    It’s a choice humans have — to be agents of God or agents of the devil, although the latter often don’t know who they’re working for. The devil’s greatest success is convincing people he doesn’t exist.

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  23. Flicker Coolidge
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    I think Skyler’s statement needs refined. Christianity teaches the nobleness of self-sacrifice in imitation of Christ.

    (Shhh . . . Don’t tell anybody. It’s not noble.)

    The mistaken ideal of “self-sacrifice” has had the consequence that many in our culture do think that sacrifice to others, even undiscerning sacrifice, is good and if some sacrifice is good, then a lot must be better; and if it’s that good then they need to make sure others sacrifice too. And then in come the politicians.

    And that’s exactly how the communist movement has used BLM.

    There is nothing the devil can’t corrupt. Have you noticed?

    There is nothing that humanity can’t corrupt. Lucifer has stop interfering with us since the binding of Isaac.

    It’s a choice humans have — to be agents of God or agents of the devil, although the latter often don’t know who they’re working for. The devil’s greatest success is convincing people he doesn’t exist.

    Or convincing a few that his way offers better temporal rewards.

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  24. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I think Skyler’s statement needs refined. Christianity teaches the nobleness of self-sacrifice in imitation of Christ.

    Leftism expects others to sacrifice on the leftists’ (or their constituencies’) behalf. You take the jab for the collective’s benefit. You rich person pay more taxes to make up for those who can’t afford to pay. You should stop driving “gas-guzzlers” and take public transportation or buy an electric car you can’t afford to “save the planet.”

    The Left is really the Borg. You will assimilate. Even though they mouth platitudes about “diversity,” the Left demands conformity. Burn the heretics!!

    Exactly.

    On some social media, circa 2017 to 2019, I still saw the postings of people who had ended their friendships with me for my supporting racist Donald Trump.

    Oh the posts they would make about how unfair it was that a woman with a crying baby was sitting at the border. And obviously the baby was crying as the child knew how that very awful Trump was out to make her momma’s life hard.

    Any one of these women could have put together a collective and then gone as a group  down to the border, and sponsored an immigrant momma and her babe. Trump was for ending open borders – he did not have the power, nor would he have sought it, to stop people from digging into their own pockets and bringing a family they selected into our nation, and then providing that family with housing, food, and help finding the adults  jobs.

    But the notion of promoting diversity as progressives view it is to instead have open borders, and to annually allow hundreds of thousands of people to enter California – a state that has had only 80% of the needed rental housing since 2008. And less water being made available than housing.

    With housing vouchers, food stamps, free medical insurance made available. Also immigrant moms with kids have  priority at public clinics over actual citizens. Plus free college at Univ of Calif schools, and more – all  made available to the newly arrived courtesy of taxpayers’ dollars. The only requirement the progressives demand of themselves is memorizing the slogans that identify each other as part of being part of the “in” group.

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  25. Skyler Coolidge
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    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I don’t mean this to be funny. There’s nothing funny about this. But do you think your brother actually thought the reporter was right when he characterized the burning town behind him as “mostly peaceful protests”?

    Yes, he did. Antifa is not real. It’s in our imagination. I’m not kidding. Those were his words. Those riots didn’t happen, they were imagined.

    When I pointed to the BLM incident where BLM went into a restaurant very near to his own home and tried to force people to raise their fists in support, that wasn’t really BLM, you see. Because everyone knows that BLM is peaceful and many of the people acting up at that restaurant were white, and white people cannot be part of BLM. White people can only stand aside respectfully when BLM terrorizes people, because we must allow them to lead their own movement. And besides, why wouldn’t those diners raise their fists to show support for ending their own white racist past?

    We cannot reason with such people. They have become monsters justifying terrorism and racism so long as it is in service of showing that they are fundamentally flawed as white people. It’s a perversion of Christian belief of self-sacrifice. If they do penance, and force others to do penance for the sins of history then they are more welcomed into a state of grace.

    It’s sick.

    See George Orwell’s 1984 and the concept of Doublethink: Your brother simultaneously knows both that the riots were peaceful and that the violence was real and laudable.

    Not at all.  He said there were no riots.  All that antifa stuff was made up, completely unreal.  

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  26. kedavis Coolidge
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I don’t mean this to be funny. There’s nothing funny about this. But do you think your brother actually thought the reporter was right when he characterized the burning town behind him as “mostly peaceful protests”?

    Yes, he did. Antifa is not real. It’s in our imagination. I’m not kidding. Those were his words. Those riots didn’t happen, they were imagined.

    When I pointed to the BLM incident where BLM went into a restaurant very near to his own home and tried to force people to raise their fists in support, that wasn’t really BLM, you see. Because everyone knows that BLM is peaceful and many of the people acting up at that restaurant were white, and white people cannot be part of BLM. White people can only stand aside respectfully when BLM terrorizes people, because we must allow them to lead their own movement. And besides, why wouldn’t those diners raise their fists to show support for ending their own white racist past?

    We cannot reason with such people. They have become monsters justifying terrorism and racism so long as it is in service of showing that they are fundamentally flawed as white people. It’s a perversion of Christian belief of self-sacrifice. If they do penance, and force others to do penance for the sins of history then they are more welcomed into a state of grace.

    It’s sick.

    See George Orwell’s 1984 and the concept of Doublethink: Your brother simultaneously knows both that the riots were peaceful and that the violence was real and laudable.

    Not at all. He said there were no riots. All that antifa stuff was made up, completely unreal.

    That was a lot of unreal fire and burning buildings and stuff.

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  27. Henry Castaigne Member
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    I think Skyler’s statement needs refined. Christianity teaches the nobleness of self-sacrifice in imitation of Christ.

    (Shhh . . . Don’t tell anybody. It’s not noble.)

    The mistaken ideal of “self-sacrifice” has had the consequence that many in our culture do think that sacrifice to others, even undiscerning sacrifice, is good and if some sacrifice is good, then a lot must be better; and if it’s that good then they need to make sure others sacrifice too. And then in come the politicians.

    And that’s exactly how the communist movement has used BLM.

    There is nothing the devil can’t corrupt. Have you noticed?

    There is nothing that humanity can’t corrupt. Lucifer has stop interfering with us since the binding of Isaac.

    It’s a choice humans have — to be agents of God or agents of the devil, although the latter often don’t know who they’re working for. The devil’s greatest success is convincing people he doesn’t exist.

    Or convincing a few that his way offers better temporal rewards.

    And better music.

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  28. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    I don’t mean this to be funny. There’s nothing funny about this. But do you think your brother actually thought the reporter was right when he characterized the burning town behind him as “mostly peaceful protests”?

    Yes, he did. Antifa is not real. It’s in our imagination. I’m not kidding. Those were his words. Those riots didn’t happen, they were imagined.

    When I pointed to the BLM incident where BLM went into a restaurant very near to his own home and tried to force people to raise their fists in support, that wasn’t really BLM, you see. Because everyone knows that BLM is peaceful and many of the people acting up at that restaurant were white, and white people cannot be part of BLM. White people can only stand aside respectfully when BLM terrorizes people, because we must allow them to lead their own movement. And besides, why wouldn’t those diners raise their fists to show support for ending their own white racist past?

    . . .

    It’s sick.

    See George Orwell’s 1984 and the concept of Doublethink: Your brother simultaneously knows both that the riots were peaceful and that the violence was real and laudable.

    Not at all. He said there were no riots. All that antifa stuff was made up, completely unreal.

    But I am inclined to think he only said there were no riots–that in fact he knew perfectly well that there were riots and that leftists were the perpetrators. One of the pathologies of leftism is that one can simultaneously know something is true and passionately “know” that it is not true. See also Revolutionary Truth, etc.

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  29. RufusRJones Member
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    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

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    I don’t mean this to be funny. There’s nothing funny about this. But do you think your brother actually thought the reporter was right when he characterized the burning town behind him as “mostly peaceful protests”?

    Yes, he did. Antifa is not real. It’s in our imagination. I’m not kidding. Those were his words. Those riots didn’t happen, they were imagined.

    When I pointed to the BLM incident where BLM went into a restaurant very near to his own home and tried to force people to raise their fists in support, that wasn’t really BLM, you see. Because everyone knows that BLM is peaceful and many of the people acting up at that restaurant were white, and white people cannot be part of BLM. White people can only stand aside respectfully when BLM terrorizes people, because we must allow them to lead their own movement. And besides, why wouldn’t those diners raise their fists to show support for ending their own white racist past?

    . . .

    It’s sick.

    See George Orwell’s 1984 and the concept of Doublethink: Your brother simultaneously knows both that the riots were peaceful and that the violence was real and laudable.

    Not at all. He said there were no riots. All that antifa stuff was made up, completely unreal.

    But I am inclined to think he only said there were no riots–that in fact he knew perfectly well that there were riots and that leftists were the perpetrators. One of the pathologies of leftism is that one can simultaneously know something is true and passionately “know” that it is not true. See also Revolutionary Truth, etc.

    I wouldn’t believe all of this except I have experienced it personally.

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  30. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I don’t mean this to be funny. There’s nothing funny about this. But do you think your brother actually thought the reporter was right when he characterized the burning town behind him as “mostly peaceful protests”?

    Yes, he did. Antifa is not real. It’s in our imagination. I’m not kidding. Those were his words. Those riots didn’t happen, they were imagined.

    When I pointed to the BLM incident where BLM went into a restaurant very near to his own home and tried to force people to raise their fists in support, that wasn’t really BLM, you see. Because everyone knows that BLM is peaceful and many of the people acting up at that restaurant were white, and white people cannot be part of BLM. White people can only stand aside respectfully when BLM terrorizes people, because we must allow them to lead their own movement. And besides, why wouldn’t those diners raise their fists to show support for ending their own white racist past?

    . . .

    It’s sick.

    See George Orwell’s 1984 and the concept of Doublethink: Your brother simultaneously knows both that the riots were peaceful and that the violence was real and laudable.

    Not at all. He said there were no riots. All that antifa stuff was made up, completely unreal.

    But I am inclined to think he only said there were no riots–that in fact he knew perfectly well that there were riots and that leftists were the perpetrators. One of the pathologies of leftism is that one can simultaneously know something is true and passionately “know” that it is not true. See also Revolutionary Truth, etc.

    I wouldn’t believe all of this except I have experienced it personally.

    Alice in Wonderland was supposed to be a lighthearted fantasy.

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