3,380,272 Future Ex-Californians

 

3,380,272 is the number of “yes” votes to change course in California. Sadly that was only 36% of the total vote. So California has democratically decided to become more and more autocratic, race critical, and socialist. 3,380,272 voters tried to save their state, but now most assuredly know that the state is doomed. Rational people will leave. Gavin Newsom was already “U-Haul employee of the Year 2020” and stands to successfully defend his title in 2021. 

 

I don’t know if 3,380,272 people are going to leave California. But they know better than anyone what is in store for those that stay.

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  1. Seawriter Contributor
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    More businesses left California in the first eight months of 2021 than in the combined complete years 2019 and 2020.

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  2. The Reticulator Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    More businesses left California in the first eight months of 2021 than in the combined complete years 2019 and 2020.

    Obviously the state needs a federal bailout. We owe it to them.

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  3. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

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  4. Rodin Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    I don’t think those who voted to get rid of Newsom are the refugees that should be feared. 

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  5. Seawriter Contributor
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    More businesses left California in the first eight months of 2021 than in the combined complete years 2019 and 2020.

    Obviously the state needs a federal bailout. We owe it to them.

    If they need to bailout, I think I can round up some lead parachutes for the state’s leaders.

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  6. kedavis Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    More businesses left California in the first eight months of 2021 than in the combined complete years 2019 and 2020.

    Obviously the state needs a federal bailout. We owe it to them.

    If they need to bailout, I think I can round up some lead parachutes for the state’s leaders.

    Don’t forget the anvils.  They worked great for Daffy Duck and the Coyote!

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  7. Dotorimuk Coolidge
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    I don’t think those who voted to get rid of Newsom are the refugees that should be feared.

    Kristin Tate has a book out that shows that a large number of those who flee blue states vote blue in the states they move to. Not encouraging.

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  8. kedavis Member
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    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    I don’t think those who voted to get rid of Newsom are the refugees that should be feared.

    Kristin Tate has a book out that shows that a large number of those who flee blue states vote blue in the states they move to. Not encouraging.

    We have examples right here on Ricochet of people who think they should be able to elect Democrats but only have GOOD things happen as a result.

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  9. E. Kent Golding Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    I don’t think those who voted to get rid of Newsom are the refugees that should be feared.

    Kristin Tate has a book out that shows that a large number of those who flee blue states vote blue in the states they move to. Not encouraging.

    We have examples right here on Ricochet of people who think they should be able to elect Democrats but only have GOOD things happen as a result.

    If Trump had been elected horribly evil things like energy independence,  low gas prices, low food prices, and improving employment rates would have continued.   There were no really wise and smart people to tell me exactly how to live my life or what to think.  Biden is helping the planet by eliminating  carbon emissions by eliminating freedom and economic activity,  and no one has the burden of having to think for themselves.  Yeah!

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  10. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    I think they were terrified of Larry Elder. They were willing to vote on irrational fear, rather than on trusting their eyes and ears and the disaster that Newsom has helped create. Very sad.

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  11. Rodin Member
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    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    I don’t think those who voted to get rid of Newsom are the refugees that should be feared.

    Kristin Tate has a book out that shows that a large number of those who flee blue states vote blue in the states they move to. Not encouraging.

    Fair comment. I have not read the book, but I would imagine these are one dimensional refugees — economic — with little appreciation for the connection between Progressive ideology and the reasons they left. The “remove” voters I would expect (hope) would have more insight. 

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  12. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    I don’t think those who voted to get rid of Newsom are the refugees that should be feared.

    This is where you are wrong.  Just because somebody is “conservative” in California does not make them “conservative” in Tennessee.  You see this effect in Mitt Romney.  A very “conservative” individual in Massachusetts but a not so “conservative” from the perspective of most of fly over country.  The Mitt Romneys of the world is how red states become purple then blue.  

    You see the same thing with Rob Long.  Very conservative for Hollywood.  Not so conservative outside Hollywood.  

    Mainly most of these blue state “conservatives” are just keep your hands off my money type but really can care less about moral and social issues or buy into the lefts’ perspective of them.  

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  13. Rodin Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    This is where you are wrong.

    Always good to know.

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  14. Full Size Tabby Member
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    I don’t think those who voted to get rid of Newsom are the refugees that should be feared.

    It appears at least part of the problem for states that are the destinations for these business moves (Tennessee, Texas, Idaho,  etc.) is the employees who move with the company, as opposed to people who move for their own reasons. Apparently these moving with the company people don’t understand the reasons the company moved. Perhaps company owners need to explain more carefully and fully to the employees why the government policies are causing the move.

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  15. kedavis Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    I don’t think those who voted to get rid of Newsom are the refugees that should be feared.

    This is where you are wrong. Just because somebody is “conservative” in California does not make them “conservative” in Tennessee. You see this effect in Mitt Romney. A very “conservative” individual in Massachusetts but a not so “conservative” from the perspective of most of fly over country. The Mitt Romneys of the world is how red states become purple then blue.

    You see the same thing with Rob Long. Very conservative for Hollywood. Not so conservative outside Hollywood.

    Mainly most of these blue state “conservatives” are just keep your hands off my money type but really can care less about moral and social issues or buy into the lefts’ perspective of them.

    And that’s their big mistake because moral and social issues can get very expensive, very quickly.

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  16. Unsk Member
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    As  I  noted before, there are 11.5 million registered Independents and Republicans in California,  many of which are white hot  angry with Guv Newsom, and another 8 million mostly registered democrat Latinos  of which likely 50% at least  are  also  white hot  angry with Guv Newsom. So tell me please why there are only 3.2 million votes so far for recall.  Something is very wrong with that picture. 

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  17. Rodin Member
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    As I noted before, there are 11.5 million registered Independents and Republicans in California, many of which are white hot angry with Guv Newsom, and another 8 million mostly registered democrat Latinos of which likely 50% at least are also white hot angry with Guv Newsom. So tell me please why there are only 3.2 million votes so far for recall. Something is very wrong with that picture.

    All good points. Any reports of shenanigans that can explain millions of missing votes, not just hundreds of thousands?

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  18. The Reticulator Member
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    I don’t think those who voted to get rid of Newsom are the refugees that should be feared.

    Kristin Tate has a book out that shows that a large number of those who flee blue states vote blue in the states they move to. Not encouraging.

    Fair comment. I have not read the book, but I would imagine these are one dimensional refugees — economic — with little appreciation for the connection between Progressive ideology and the reasons they left. The “remove” voters I would expect (hope) would have more insight.

    They are fleeing the problems, not the cause of the problems.

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  19. kedavis Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    I don’t think those who voted to get rid of Newsom are the refugees that should be feared.

    Kristin Tate has a book out that shows that a large number of those who flee blue states vote blue in the states they move to. Not encouraging.

    Fair comment. I have not read the book, but I would imagine these are one dimensional refugees — economic — with little appreciation for the connection between Progressive ideology and the reasons they left. The “remove” voters I would expect (hope) would have more insight.

    They are fleeing the problems, not the cause of the problems.

    Many of them CAN’T flee the cause of the problems, because THEY ARE the cause of the problems.

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  20. The Reticulator Member
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    There is a rich tradition of doing what the Californians are doing. In the late 19th century a lot of Eastern European people came to the United States and settled in the upper midwest. What did they bring with them? A socialist ideology, soon to be the cause of many problems in Europe. 

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  21. Rodin Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    There is a rich tradition of doing what the Californians are doing. In the late 19th century a lot of Eastern European people came to the United States and settled in the upper midwest. What did they bring with them? A socialist ideology, soon to be the cause of many problems in Europe.

    I do not carry the spores. 

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  22. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    I don’t think those who voted to get rid of Newsom are the refugees that should be feared.

    This is where you are wrong. Just because somebody is “conservative” in California does not make them “conservative” in Tennessee. You see this effect in Mitt Romney. A very “conservative” individual in Massachusetts but a not so “conservative” from the perspective of most of fly over country. The Mitt Romneys of the world is how red states become purple then blue.

    You see the same thing with Rob Long. Very conservative for Hollywood. Not so conservative outside Hollywood.

    Mainly most of these blue state “conservatives” are just keep your hands off my money type but really can care less about moral and social issues or buy into the lefts’ perspective of them.

    Rob Long went on record in this week’s Ricochet podcast favoring a Rebpublican shift leftward (at least selectively), to attract more RINO’s. And Tom Cotton agreed with him. These gentlemen seem to fit Chesterton’s dictum very well, that the aim of Progressives is to assure that mistakes continue to be made, and the aim of Conservatives is to assure that those mistakes are never corrected. Thanks, Rob. Just what we all need.

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  23. The Reticulator Member
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    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):
    Rob Long went on record in this week’s Ricochet podcast favoring a Rebpublican shift leftward (at least selectively), to attract more RINO’s. And Tom Cotton agreed with him. These gentlemen seem to fit Chesterton’s dictum very well, that the aim of Progressives is to assure that mistakes continue to be made, and the aim of Conservatives is to assure that those mistakes are never corrected. Thanks, Rob. Just what we all need.

    I’d rather attract a few socialists and communists than RINOs.   Never-RINO.  

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  24. Jim Kearney Contributor
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Mainly most of these blue state “conservatives” are just keep your hands off my money type but really can care less about moral and social issues or buy into the lefts’ perspective

    Yes, “keep your hands of my money (Democrats.)” Keep Woke, Inc. board members off the businesses we invest in. Keep criminals in jail, empower police, and get the homeless out of our neighborhood park. Make Borders Real Again. Get your racist CRT crap out of our schools. Teach kids why capitalism works, and to do better than living off their parents as adults or malingering on government handouts. Give conservatives 50% of all production resources spent on public broadcasting. Stop Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. from censoring speech since they are common carriers, not private publishers. Fight reverse discrimination everywhere, and ideological discrimination in the entertainment and education industries. Reconstruct U.S. manufacturing, stop overdependence on China. Require “Made in America” (or not) labeling on Amazon. No, I won’t tell you what my pronoun is. Remember who attacked us on 9/11, and keep our foot on their throat! Kick congressmen who voted to impeach President Trump out of office by contributing to their primary opponents. Make America Great Again.

    These days, it’s rarely just about taxes.

    Yes, I’m a Republican in California. Yes, I’m pro-choice. Yes, I support full equal rights for gays, bisexuals, and lesbians, and generally find them a lot more creative and amusing than most people, even the one who tends to yap on about “my pastor.” Yes, folks who call gays sinners remind me of the Taliban. And yes, unless you live in Hawaii, we here have better weather than you! Except for the smoke from the fires. And the air around the tent colony by the library entrance.

    You need Quotation Mark “conservatives” like us. True, our votes score rare victories. Nevertheless, we casters of meaningless votes do put money in the hands of GOP candidates in close elections. Like a handful of GOP house members who won close seats here last year! And yeah, one often annoying Maine Senator, too. She’ll have six years to become part of a one vote GOP majority.

     

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  25. I Walton Member
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    They should just take their part of the state away from the urban kooks.  Let LA and San Francisco be California and most of the rest just become pieces of other states or independent.  Impossible.  Yes, but after the next fraudulent national election it will dawn on a greater share of the States that separation is the only solution. The socialist states can’t make it without us because the Chinese are, or might as well be,  already in charge.  

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  26. Rodin Member
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    I Walton (View Comment):

    They should just take their part of the state away from the urban kooks. Let LA and San Francisco be California and most of the rest just become pieces of other states or independent. Impossible. Yes, but after the next fraudulent national election it will dawn on a greater share of the States that separation is the only solution. The socialist states can’t make it without us because the Chinese are, or might as well be, already in charge.

    True, but reliant on the good will and cooperation of Democrats in the state and Congress. The way to get that cooperation involves doing everything that eliminates the need for separation. 

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  27. Henry Castaigne Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):
    Rob Long went on record in this week’s Ricochet podcast favoring a Rebpublican shift leftward (at least selectively), to attract more RINO’s. And Tom Cotton agreed with him. These gentlemen seem to fit Chesterton’s dictum very well, that the aim of Progressives is to assure that mistakes continue to be made, and the aim of Conservatives is to assure that those mistakes are never corrected. Thanks, Rob. Just what we all need.

    I’d rather attract a few socialists and communists than RINOs. Never-RINO.

    Why? Socialists are worse than RINOs.

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  28. Roderic Reagan
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    they need to stay there and not bring their CA progressive point of view elsewhere

    Polls show that it’s the more conservative, Republican types who are leaving, so they are not necessarily out to turn all the other states red.

    On the other hand, even relatively conservative people from California are still used to the government doing everything.  It’s just that the things they want the government to do are a little different from what the libs want it to do.  That is, law enforcement rather than social services,  water works rather than shower Nazis,   a public gun range rather than a garden center, neighborhood beautification rather than low cost housing, and so on.  

     

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  29. The Reticulator Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):
    Rob Long went on record in this week’s Ricochet podcast favoring a Rebpublican shift leftward (at least selectively), to attract more RINO’s. And Tom Cotton agreed with him. These gentlemen seem to fit Chesterton’s dictum very well, that the aim of Progressives is to assure that mistakes continue to be made, and the aim of Conservatives is to assure that those mistakes are never corrected. Thanks, Rob. Just what we all need.

    I’d rather attract a few socialists and communists than RINOs. Never-RINO.

    Why? Socialists are worse than RINOs.

    Socialists are more honest about what they are.   Not a high bar, of course.  

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  30. kedavis Member
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    I Walton (View Comment):

    They should just take their part of the state away from the urban kooks. Let LA and San Francisco be California and most of the rest just become pieces of other states or independent. Impossible. Yes, but after the next fraudulent national election it will dawn on a greater share of the States that separation is the only solution. The socialist states can’t make it without us because the Chinese are, or might as well be, already in charge.

    The problem there, as with Greater Idaho etc, is that it doesn’t change the power balance.  Having parts of California, Oregon, and Washington also vote for the same two Senators that Idaho already gets now, has no value aside from those people feeling better about their vote.  The rest of the People’s Republic of California would still have Padilla and Feinstein.

    Having something like that actually make a difference, would mean that parts of California, Oregon, and Washington would have to break off and FORM A NEW STATE, perhaps more than one, with two more Senators each.  And since the legislatures of the states involved would have to agree to it, you shouldn’t bet on it ever happening.

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