Thoughts on the Recall Result or Why is This Man Smiling?

 

Newsom won by running from his record

It shouldn’t be forgotten that Gavin Newsom and the Democrat Party never addressed the problems of rampant crime, an enormous homeless population, some of poorest performing schools in the nation, the highest taxes in the nation, unscientific and inconsistent lockdown policies that resulted in thousands of small businesses closing, and poor forest management resulting in hundreds of square miles of the state going up in flames (yet dishonestly blaming the fires on global warming).

Newsom and the Democrats ran from his record and instead painted front-runner Larry Elder as a clone of Donald Trump, thus putting Trump on the ballot to raise the hackles of low-information Democrat voters, as in: “Hey, ignorant and gullible fellow Democrats, don’t look at my dismal record as governor which is essentially a sequel to my dismal record as mayor of San Francisco, instead vote against ‘Trump’ because he’s really wearing blackface and calling himself Larry Elder.”

And yes, that strategy seemed to have worked…for the time being because it looks as though Larry Elder isn’t going away and is eager to take on Newsom again in 2022. That says a great deal about the man’s character and his determination.

Sure, the LA Times’ racist smears helped

Coming to Newsom’s aid was the Los Angeles Times that activated a campaign of racist smears of Elder who came from a lower-middle-class family with a father who held two full-time janitorial jobs to support his family. Elder grew up and succeeded in one of the most crime-ridden sections of Los Angeles to become a best-selling author and popular radio talk show personality. It’s clear why Larry Elder was attacked by the LA Times – because their leftist editorial board and writers were threatened that a black man could be so uppity to actually articulate ideas that ran counter to Democrat far-left ideology. That uppity black man had to be taken down several pegs. Ironically, and with a straight face, the LA Times smeared Elder as a white supremacist who was apparently a danger to his own race. Slanderous. Defamatory and disgusting. Hopefully, thousands of the paper’s subscribers have now realized just how vile the editorial board is and will start canceling their subscriptions.

Again, when Democrats and the news media accuse others of being racist, it’s simply a way to divert scrutiny of their own racist pronouncements and practices…or as white Joe Biden said to another black talk show host, “If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black.” In other words, know your place. Keep in your place. Or we will (metaphorically speaking) lash you in the public square.

All glory is fleeting

The recall election should have been a wake-up call to Newsom and the Democrat Party machine. There was substantial discontent and anger expressed by the electorate many of whom during the lockdowns and up to the present day, lost businesses, or their jobs, or had to watch kids at home full-time, or watched their homes burn to the ground – while Gavin Newsom and his elite friends wined and dined at the posh French Laundry restaurant racking up a $12,000 wine tab. Newsom and the Party may celebrate and believe that they were successful in trouncing upstart Larry Elder but the recall election is not a gubernatorial election and it happened because some 2 million Californians – Republicans, Democrats, and Independents signed a petition to get Newsom removed. Elder was one of 46 alternate candidates not one of 7 or 8 on a gubernatorial ballot. If Newsom and team believe that this recall election was essentially the same as going through and winning a gubernatorial election, they may be making a strategic mistake.

Elder exceeded expectations

I realize that may sound odd, given Newsom’s victory to keep his rear end in the governor’s chair in Sacramento, but in a crowded field of 46 alternate candidates for governor on the ballot, Larry Elder appears to have outperformed earlier polling percentages and has snapped up (at last count) nearly 47% of those who voted to remove Newsom – essentially half of all the alternate candidate votes in a huge field of candidates. Clearly, his national name recognition and frequent appearances on television where his quick and insightful intellect can be seen eviscerating leftist talking points contributed to his support.

What the results indicate is that Elder, in a head-to-head contest against Newsom over a much longer time frame – essentially a year rather than about 3 months – may actually make up the difference in a much shorter roster of gubernatorial candidates, provided that the GOP at the national level helps to support his campaign if Elder chooses to run which it appears he plans to and if his campaign employs end-around media strategies to get directly in front of certain voting blocks – Hispanic voters (already not fans of Newsom), black voters, and Asian voters (many of whom tend to skew Republican).

If Newsom is foolish or arrogant enough to agree to debate Elder, he will lose. Newsom spouts slogans. Elder cites facts and examples that he has committed to memory. Newsom is an intellectual lightweight. Elder has a sharp mind and is fearless in a debate. In his Zoom conference with the LA Times editorial board, Elder was clearly the most intelligent person on the call and never backed down during the sometimes absurd and ridiculous questioning. Newsom also has difficulty at times controlling his temper and Elder should take advantage of that. In the brief timeframe of the recall election, and despite Newsom’s win, Elder has shown himself to be a formidable candidate. If Kevin Faulconer and others fall into line and support an Elder-for-governor candidacy, then that will also help. If Elder runs for governor, then he may want to enhance his security detail because it will only get uglier out there and potentially more violent, especially if Antifa is unleashed. Odds are more than eggs may be flying.

Faulconer may want to sit out a run for governor in 2022.

The next nearest candidate was actually a Democrat, Kevin Paffrath, a financial analyst who garnered close to 10% of the alternates’ vote. Trailing in third was Kevin Faulconer, the former mayor of San Diego with a sound record of fiscal management and who deserves the credit for eliminating a great deal of the city’s homeless problem. The lesson, however, as it so often is in California gubernatorial contests in the last 20 years (post-Pete Wilson), is that in order to make a successful run for governor and get cross-over appeal from less radical Democrats, and Independents, that a Republican candidate needs to have either whole-state or preferably national name recognition rather than simply regional name recognition.

Faulconer’s relatively weak showing indicates that he wasn’t able to get his name and his message across in the months before the recall – always challenging since the news media in California leans left; nor raise the necessary funds to advertise on numerous fronts and thus hasn’t as yet, captured the imagination of voters who are discontent and frustrated with Newsom. Unfortunately, that doesn’t bode well for him in 2022 when Newsom is up for re-election and financial backing to support a run for governor may not materialize at the levels Faulconer needs. Faulconer may want to consider challenging Alex Padilla for the US Senate race in 2022 but the clock is ticking. The current field hasn’t seemed to have generated much excitement. Can you even name them?

The GOP wake up call

The California GOP and has shown time again that it has difficulty finding, recruiting, and bringing along thick-skinned, smart, and attractive candidates. Some of the statewide multimillionaire candidates who did run for governor were indistinguishable from their Democrat opponents, thus perhaps courting some disenchanted Democrat voters while repulsing too many Republican voters in the process to ever win at the state level. When Meg Whitman ran, the standing joke was that people were going to vote for Jerry Brown because he was the most conservative candidate on the ballot. The strategy of presenting a RINO Republican who might be more palatable to Democrats in the state is a non-starter. Bottom line, unless a nationally known, well-respected, and admired figure emerges for Republicans in the next few months, and no names immediately come to mind, Larry Elder is essentially the front runner to take on Newsom in 2022.

Conventional wisdom also says to continue to cede ground on social issues. Well, there comes a time when social issues start to blend with bread-and-butter and basic survival issues. Solving the homeless and the addiction epidemic in California’s cities is a social issue that elite Democrats like Newsom or Pelosi have shown they’re too busy or don’t really care to deal with. Properly enforcing crime, not allowing looters to loot, and instead giving them license to loot because, well, they need the Gucci purses or the drugs or the designer clothing is a social issue. It has always been wrong to steal. Allowing Marxist-sympathetic district attorneys to apply their warped and vile sense of ethics is a social issue. Allowing teachers to intimidate and warp young minds with vile notions about transgenderism, the alleged safety and pleasures of anal sex, or recruit them to become fascist activists is a social issue that is also a survival issue. If a Republican candidate doesn’t speak to these issues with conviction and passion and instead allows the Democrat machine to continue to spread rot and dismantle society then what would be the point of voting for any Republican?

Now that he has a sense of how he will be treated and where the flack will come from, Elder can start to build a team of strategists, tacticians, and pit-bull surrogates around him to help him take on the Democrat machine. Of course, the GOP at the national level may decide to just give up on California altogether and let it devolve further to become the next Venezuela. And there are a good many Republicans around the country who see no obligation to attempt to reclaim California and steer it back to fiscal sanity and a strong case can be made that they are right. Let California learn its hard lesson. The risk, however, is watching the rest of the nation be infected with the same reckless policies and mismanagement of resources, schools, and crime. California is the drug dealer in the neighborhood and other Democrat-run states are visiting it in the night. The drug dealer won’t go away. He will continue to do business. And his business will proliferate unless he’s stopped. He’s already sent some of his best customers out of the state to take up residence in states that we were staunchly right-of-center. And Democrat politicians and Democrat machines in other states idolize him.

In the meantime, with the Newsom victory to keep his job, even more Californians are likely to leave the state for Idaho, Arizona, Texas, Florida, or other states leaving those who can afford to stay or those who enjoy the decay, filth, the blocks of homeless tents, the never-ending COVID mandates, the high prices, the growing crime, the non-existent water management, and the charred remains of hundreds of acres of forest land that did not have to burn. Will enough persuadable voters be left as the incompetent governor continues to drive the state into the ground? Well, nobody said it was going to be easy.

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  1. Unsk Member
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    I find it very hard to believe in a state absolutely ravished by Newson that the recall effort will likely get no more than 5 million votes with a total in the state of more than 11.5 million Republicans and Independents, and where the Independents  are often closet Pubs here because few want to say they are Republican.   And then again if only 20% of registered Dems voted for the recall, ( which is not hard to believe with so many restaurant workers and such out of work) that would be more votes than the Sec of State in their tallies as of now has that voted for recall.

    Something is very rotten in Denmark- and California. Again.

    As Comrade Uncle Joe Biden’s hero, Comrade Uncle Joe Stalin is alleged to have said: “It is not who votes that count, but who counts the votes”. Amen, Comrade.

    But of course this was a total mail in ballot election which some said one could tell the vote from the outside of mail in ballot, and where LA County (40% of the state) has pretty much banned precinct voting. Nah that wouldn’t encourage voter fraud – would it?

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  2. Hang On Member
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    So long as the wealthy benefit from the corruption and have enough money to shield themselves from the crime, homeless, covid, and low quality education, then California is done.

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  3. Brian Watt Member
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    So long as the wealthy benefit from the corruption and have enough money to shield themselves from the crime, homeless, covid, and low quality education, then California is done.

    True enough. But some of those wealthier folks have picked up stakes and moved out – small-to-medium sized business owners, merchants and restaurateurs who were forced to close their businesses. As violent crime amps up in the Bay Area and Los Angeles, some of those wealthy Democrat stalwarts may even begin to quietly donate to politicians and district attorney candidates who promise to restore law and order.

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  4. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    So long as the wealthy benefit from the corruption and have enough money to shield themselves from the crime, homeless, covid, and low quality education, then California is done.

    True enough. But some of those wealthier folks have picked up stakes and moved out – small-to-medium sized business owners, merchants and restaurateurs who were forced to close their businesses. As violent crime amps up in the Bay Area and Los Angeles, some of those wealthy Democrat stalwarts may even begin to quietly donate to politicians and district attorney candidates who promise to restore law and order.

    I don’t believe it.

    They just do not see a casual link. They vote Democrat to feel good about themselves. That is more important than anything. I don’t think that Democrats can be flipped. No message seems to work at all, since all they seem to hear is “vote for the racist”.

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  5. Brian Watt Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    So long as the wealthy benefit from the corruption and have enough money to shield themselves from the crime, homeless, covid, and low quality education, then California is done.

    True enough. But some of those wealthier folks have picked up stakes and moved out – small-to-medium sized business owners, merchants and restaurateurs who were forced to close their businesses. As violent crime amps up in the Bay Area and Los Angeles, some of those wealthy Democrat stalwarts may even begin to quietly donate to politicians and district attorney candidates who promise to restore law and order.

    I don’t believe it.

    They just do not see a casual link. They vote Democrat to feel good about themselves. That is more important than anything. I don’t think that Democrats can be flipped.

    It’s tough to feel good about yourself or your notions of who is best to control crime when you’ve been robbed, raped, or pummeled and laying in your own blood on the street.

    A friend of mine who is still an ardent lefty but who moved to Canada in the early 80s and who wrote for Mother Jones magazine, and I went to see a double-feature in San Francisco back in the late seventies. During the first feature, his car was broken into and his car stereo was ripped out from the dash. During intermission, an off duty policeman called out into the audience to see if he could find the owner of the car. My friend raised his hand and the officer told him that there was nothing that could be done and that the police were dusting the car for fingerprints and for us to watch the second feature and afterward he would take us to the car. After the second feature we went to get the car which had been towed away. My friend got the run around about where his car was and then had to pay an impound yard to retrieve it only to find that the impound yard didn’t have the car and that it was in fact back at the police station parking garage in the Mission District. We had driven up from Palo Alto to see the film and didn’t return back to his apartment until about 3am. He was incensed and vowed to make it a point to show up to the court hearing for what the criminal had put him through that night. And this was the abbreviated version of the story.

    Now magnify that example by a wealthy Democrat donor who lives in the heart of San Francisco, gets beaten and robbed or watches their child attacked by a homeless heroin addict. They may begin to question their allegiance to donating to very left Democrat civic leaders or a radical district attorney.

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  6. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    So long as the wealthy benefit from the corruption and have enough money to shield themselves from the crime, homeless, covid, and low quality education, then California is done.

    True enough. But some of those wealthier folks have picked up stakes and moved out – small-to-medium sized business owners, merchants and restaurateurs who were forced to close their businesses. As violent crime amps up in the Bay Area and Los Angeles, some of those wealthy Democrat stalwarts may even begin to quietly donate to politicians and district attorney candidates who promise to restore law and order.

    I don’t believe it.

    They just do not see a casual link. They vote Democrat to feel good about themselves. That is more important than anything. I don’t think that Democrats can be flipped.

    It’s tough to feel good about yourself or your notions of who is best to control crime when you’ve been robbed, raped, or pummeled and laying in your own blood on the street.

    A friend of mine who is still an ardent lefty but who moved to Canada in the early 80s and who wrote for Mother Jones magazine, and I went to see a double-feature in San Francisco back in the late seventies. During the first feature, his car was broken into and his car stereo was ripped out from the dash. During intermission, an off duty policeman called out into the audience to see if he could find the owner of the car. My friend raised his hand and the officer told him that there was nothing that could be done and that the police were dusting the car for fingerprints and for us to watch the second feature and afterward he would take us to the car. After the second feature we went to get the car which had been towed away. My friend got the run around about where his car was and then had to pay an impound yard to retrieve it only to find that the impound yard didn’t have the car and that it was in fact back at the police station parking garage in the Mission District. We had driven up from Palo Alto to see the film and didn’t return back to his apartment until about 3am. He was incensed and vowed to make it a point to show up to the court hearing for what the criminal had put him through that night. And this was the abbreviated version of the story.

    Now magnify that example by a wealthy Democrat donor who lives in the heart of San Francisco, gets beaten and robbed or watches their child attacked by a homeless heroin addict. They may begin to question their allegiance to donating to very left Democrat civic leaders or a radical district attorney.

    Democrat voters have been voting for more of the same for a generation. It does not seem like they might suddenly wake up en mass. 

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  7. Unsk Member
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    Bryan: “They just do not see a casual link. They vote Democrat to feel good about themselves. That is more important than anything. I don’t think that Democrats can be flipped.”

    Latinos who want to work got pounded by Newsom and by Biden.  A ton are out of work. They are not the “feel good about themselves” Democrats who are usually white and reasonably affluent. They have mouths to feed and so the Lefty claptrap doesn’t always work with them.

    That is why this election result is such bullcrap. 

    There are nearly 8 million registered Latino voters in California.  Support for Biden ( and likely Newsom) has fallen to like 50%  among Latinos in key states. If you allowed for a 75% turnout among Latinos and a 50% vote for recall, that would equal – without the rest of Republican vote – 3 million Latino votes for the recall – so where are they?

    This election was always going to have a low Democrat turnout so Republican, conservative Independent, and disaffected Latino votes had to be suppressed, and it sure looks like they were. Big Time.

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  8. Bereket Kelile Member
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    One thing to keep in mind is that there were virtually no undecided voters in the recall election, according to polling. The research I conducted only a few weeks ago showed that this was a GOTV campaign, not a persuasion campaign. These tactics were successful in that they got their base to send their ballots in.

    To that point, even an LA Times political newsletter I follow discussed the potential impact of polling on this election. The Newsom campaign used a Berkeley poll showing that Dems were not motivated to scare them into voting lest Elder win. When another Berkeley poll came out a couple of weeks later the numbers had shifted. 

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  9. Brian Watt Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    So long as the wealthy benefit from the corruption and have enough money to shield themselves from the crime, homeless, covid, and low quality education, then California is done.

    True enough. But some of those wealthier folks have picked up stakes and moved out – small-to-medium sized business owners, merchants and restaurateurs who were forced to close their businesses. As violent crime amps up in the Bay Area and Los Angeles, some of those wealthy Democrat stalwarts may even begin to quietly donate to politicians and district attorney candidates who promise to restore law and order.

    I don’t believe it.

    They just do not see a casual link. They vote Democrat to feel good about themselves. That is more important than anything. I don’t think that Democrats can be flipped.

    It’s tough to feel good about yourself or your notions of who is best to control crime when you’ve been robbed, raped, or pummeled and laying in your own blood on the street.

    Now magnify that example by a wealthy Democrat donor who lives in the heart of San Francisco, gets beaten and robbed or watches their child attacked by a homeless heroin addict. They may begin to question their allegiance to donating to very left Democrat civic leaders or a radical district attorney.

    Democrat voters have been voting for more of the same for a generation. It does not seem like they might suddenly wake up en mass.

    Didn’t say Democrat voters en masse. Said some wealthy Democrat donors who may be victims of crime.

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  10. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    So long as the wealthy benefit from the corruption and have enough money to shield themselves from the crime, homeless, covid, and low quality education, then California is done.

    True enough. But some of those wealthier folks have picked up stakes and moved out – small-to-medium sized business owners, merchants and restaurateurs who were forced to close their businesses. As violent crime amps up in the Bay Area and Los Angeles, some of those wealthy Democrat stalwarts may even begin to quietly donate to politicians and district attorney candidates who promise to restore law and order.

    I don’t believe it.

    They just do not see a casual link. They vote Democrat to feel good about themselves. That is more important than anything. I don’t think that Democrats can be flipped. No message seems to work at all, since all they seem to hear is “vote for the racist”.

    Sadly, I have to agree.  Not only in California but in neighboring Oregon.  How in the world can parents with children vote for someone like Kate Brown and her idiotic “everyone graduates” policy for high schools?  Their own children are being doomed to a life without a future and they don’t seem to mind.

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  11. Vince Guerra Member
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    I find it very hard to believe in a state absolutely ravished by Newson that the recall effort will likely get no more than 5 million votes with a total in the state of more than 11.5 million Republicans and Independents, and where the Independents  are often closet Pubs here because few want to say they are Republican.   And then again if only 20% of registered Dems voted for the recall, ( which is not hard to believe with so many restaurant workers and such out of work) that would be more votes than the Sec of State in their tallies as of now has that voted for recall.

    Something is very rotten in Denmark- and California. Again.

    What makes you think that? I mean, it makes perfect sense that conservatives and disaffected democrats and independents would stay home and not get involved in this. Never mind the long lines indicating the contrary. Also, there’s no reason to look into this

    Five seconds later:

    If it works, why change tactics? As always, nothing to see here.  

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  12. drlorentz Member
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    The looney Left will be emboldened by this election result. Case in point: LA County will implement vaccine passport requirement for bars, breweries, and large-scale events on October 7. This was announced today. Does anyone think that they would’ve 5hought twice if Gruesome had lost?

    https://www.foxla.com/news/la-county-to-require-proof-of-vaccination-for-indoor-bars-nightclubs-outdoor-sports-games

     

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  13. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    I find it very hard to believe in a state absolutely ravished by Newson that the recall effort will likely get no more than 5 million votes with a total in the state of more than 11.5 million Republicans and Independents, and where the Independents are often closet Pubs here because few want to say they are Republican. And then again if only 20% of registered Dems voted for the recall, ( which is not hard to believe with so many restaurant workers and such out of work) that would be more votes than the Sec of State in their tallies as of now has that voted for recall.

    Something is very rotten in Denmark- and California. Again.

    As Comrade Uncle Joe Biden’s hero, Comrade Uncle Joe Stalin is alleged to have said: “It is not who votes that count, but who counts the votes”. Amen, Comrade.

    But of course this was a total mail in ballot election which some said one could tell the vote from the outside of mail in ballot, and where LA County (40% of the state) has pretty much banned precinct voting. Nah that wouldn’t encourage voter fraud – would it?

    I found it of interest that Kevin Kiley, who also ran for the spot of governor, issued a statement to the effect that one month ago, trusted polls showed that Recall effort had a fifty-fifty shot of winning.

    Reading between the lines, I believe Kiley was letting us know we are not CT’ers or nuts if we think the ballot count – if done fairly – would have been much closer to fifty-fifty than the morale destroying 67% to 32%.

    If this is not audited, future elections in Calif will end up being 89% to 11%.

     

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  14. Zafar Member
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    A friend of mine who is still an ardent lefty but who moved to Canada in the early 80s and who wrote for Mother Jones magazine, and I went to see a double-feature in San Francisco back in the late seventies. During the first feature, his car was broken into and his car stereo was ripped out from the dash.

    Horrific story. Obvious question: why didn’t it happen to him in (Lefty) Canada?

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  15. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
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    California is doomed, doomed, doomed, doomed.

    I think the best case scenario would that they just become a peaceful, extremely high tax state with some Hispanic and Asian-Americans very occasionally joining with the few Republicans to try to stop certain crazy stuff.

    New and different types of violence might be more of what might be expected.

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  16. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    I guess CA hasn’t reached rock bottom yet.  

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  17. Old Bathos Moderator
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    California has successfully driven out a critical mass of middle-class normals.  The remaining lemming majority will happily run it into the ground.  The worse it gets, the more government will claim a mandate to intervene to solve the problems it creates.  

    Unlike Illinois, for example, California still has the wealth to be fiscally absurd for quite a while.

    Democrats sounded the evil-right-is-coming alarm siren and the Eloi marched into the cave and voted for Newsome–(with lots of manufactured votes tossed in just in case).  I don’t see that changing in the foreseeable future.

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  18. drlorentz Member
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    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    I guess CA hasn’t reached rock bottom yet.

    The key word being yet.

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  19. drlorentz Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    A friend of mine who is still an ardent lefty but who moved to Canada in the early 80s and who wrote for Mother Jones magazine, and I went to see a double-feature in San Francisco back in the late seventies. During the first feature, his car was broken into and his car stereo was ripped out from the dash.

    Horrific story. Obvious question: why didn’t it happen to him in (Lefty) Canada?

    Oh, I dunno. Maybe because Canada is a different country with a different history, values, and people. It’s not as if left/right form the singular axis sufficient to describe the multi-dimensional space that humanity occupies. But hey, if binary thinking works for you, more power to you.

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  20. drlorentz Member
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    This just in:

    California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chair Sean Patrick Maloney argued Thursday that Newsom’s victory in the recall election this week should embolden Democratic politicians across the country to pursue more aggressive public health measures to quash the coronavirus pandemic — including the implementation of mask and vaccine mandates.

    Asked about the implications of the recall results for national Democrats, Newsom told CBS News his win meant “that we need to stiffen our spines and lean in to keeping people safe and healthy. That we shouldn’t be timid in trying to protect people’s lives and mitigate the spread and transmission of this disease. That it’s the right thing to do, but it’s also a motivating factor in this election.”

    Things are gonna be great… just great. We’re all in this together!

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  21. Brian Watt Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    A friend of mine who is still an ardent lefty but who moved to Canada in the early 80s and who wrote for Mother Jones magazine, and I went to see a double-feature in San Francisco back in the late seventies. During the first feature, his car was broken into and his car stereo was ripped out from the dash.

    Horrific story. Obvious question: why didn’t it happen to him in (Lefty) Canada?

    No, not horrific. Simply indicative. Indicative of what happens when someone who had been quite lenient and sympathetic to criminals previously, and that they presumably committed crime because of their desperate personal circumstances suddenly becomes an instant proponent of the rule of law when he had become a victim of crime himself and the victim of a relatively minor crime (when compared to mugging, assault, a home invasion, a shooting, etc.) – the stealing of his car stereo, that made the rest of his evening irritating and frustrating.

    I couldn’t say whether he has been the victim of crime in Canada or not. Pretty sure that crime is still committed in Canada and hasn’t become the crime-free socialist paradise that many in Canada want it to be. But based on incidents occurring during the pandemic lockdowns, one could argue that parts of Canada are creeping towards becoming a police state, so if that trend continues, I’m sure Canada will be much freer of crime, eh? How’s Australia doing on that front?

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  22. Quietpi Member
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):
    If this is not audited, future elections in Calif will end up being 89% to 11%.

    It’ll never happen.  Nobody has the horsepower to make it happen. 

    Try this first, as it will be much easier.  Stand on the bridge at Rio Vista, and stop the Sacramento River by holding up your hand.

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  23. Old Bathos Moderator
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    drlorentz (View Comment):

    This just in:

    California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chair Sean Patrick Maloney argued Thursday that Newsom’s victory in the recall election this week should embolden Democratic politicians across the country to pursue more aggressive public health measures to quash the coronavirus pandemic — including the implementation of mask and vaccine mandates.

    Asked about the implications of the recall results for national Democrats, Newsom told CBS News his win meant “that we need to stiffen our spines and lean in to keeping people safe and healthy. That we shouldn’t be timid in trying to protect people’s lives and mitigate the spread and transmission of this disease. That it’s the right thing to do, but it’s also a motivating factor in this election.”

    Things are gonna be great… just great. We’re all in this together!

    So the plan is: The best way to get past the fact that none of the government interventions worked, harmed more people more than the virus did, and to hide the fact that Democratic governance at every level is a disaster is (drum roll, please!) to name the anti-vaxers and anti-maskers as the real enemy, pretend they are all white MAGA-hat militia guys, demonize them and win because the whole country is just like California so it will totally work.

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  24. drlorentz Member
    drlorentz
    @drlorentz

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    This just in:

    California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chair Sean Patrick Maloney argued Thursday that Newsom’s victory in the recall election this week should embolden Democratic politicians across the country to pursue more aggressive public health measures to quash the coronavirus pandemic — including the implementation of mask and vaccine mandates.

    Asked about the implications of the recall results for national Democrats, Newsom told CBS News his win meant “that we need to stiffen our spines and lean in to keeping people safe and healthy. That we shouldn’t be timid in trying to protect people’s lives and mitigate the spread and transmission of this disease. That it’s the right thing to do, but it’s also a motivating factor in this election.”

    Things are gonna be great… just great. We’re all in this together!

    So the plan is: The best way to get past the fact that none of the government interventions worked, harmed more people more than the virus did, and to hide the fact that Democratic governance at every level is a disaster is (drum roll, please!) to name the anti-vaxers and anti-maskers as the real enemy, pretend they are all white MAGA-hat militia guys, demonize them and win because the whole country is just like California so it will totally work.

    Yup. That sums it up.

    That’s why this election was important. The Left takes the result as a mandate to double down, whether justified or not. Reality is not their strong suit. Thus, they will crack down harder wherever they can. Americans who prefer safety to liberty will end up with neither, regardless of whether Franklin had anything to say about this or not.

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  25. The Elephant in the Room Member
    The Elephant in the Room
    @ElephasAmericanus

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    They vote Democrat to feel good about themselves. That is more important than anything. I don’t think that Democrats can be flipped. No message seems to work at all, since all they seem to hear is “vote for the racist”.

    This. Okay, it’s 50% of it: They also vote Democrat to feel smart. “Democrats are the good, smart people.  If I vote Democrat, I am a good, smart person.” That’s the [false] logic.

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  26. The Elephant in the Room Member
    The Elephant in the Room
    @ElephasAmericanus

    California is the Memento State: No one can remember what happened five minutes ago.

    Therefore, no one can remember Governor Gruesome’s partying at the French Laundry while the rest of the state was under house arrest.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s perfectly coiffed hair while salons and barbers were shut down.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s children attending private school while public schools remained shut.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s winery remaining open for business while thousands of bars, restaurants, and shops went under.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s sleeping with his best friend’s wife when he was mayor of San Francisco.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s paying off that former best friend’s wife with money from the city of San Francisco’s disabled employee’s fund to keep quiet.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s recovering from the trauma of the sleeping-with-my-best-friend’s-wife incident by… sleeping with a teenager.

    And when Governor Gruesome wins re-election next year, no one will be able to remember that he was once so hated that Californians tried to recall him for his corrupt, self-serving ways just a year earlier.

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  27. Old Bathos Moderator
    Old Bathos
    @OldBathos

    The Elephant in the Room (View Comment):

    California is the Memento State: No one can remember what happened five minutes ago.

    Therefore, no one can remember Governor Gruesome’s partying at the French Laundry while the rest of the state was under house arrest.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s perfectly coiffed hair while salons and barbers were shut down.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s children attending private school while public schools remained shut.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s winery remaining open for business while thousands of bars, restaurants, and shops went under.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s sleeping with his best friend’s wife when he was mayor of San Francisco.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s paying off that former best friend’s wife with money from the city of San Francisco’s disabled employee’s fund to keep quiet.

    No one can remember Governor Gruesome’s recovering from the trauma of the sleeping-with-my-best-friend’s-wife incident by… sleeping with a teenager.

    And when Governor Gruesome wins re-election next year, no one will be able to remember that he was once so hated that Californians tried to recall him for his corrupt, self-serving ways just a year earlier.

    None of that matters as long as he is keeping the KKK, Donald Trump, and COVID-loving science deniers at bay.

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  28. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    I guess CA hasn’t reached rock bottom yet.

    Wanna know what has given me pause?

    I ordered some item of clothing from a major wholesaler, only to find that the customer service lady was in the Philippines. (With a rooster crowing not too many feet from her as she attempted to get my phone number, credit card stuff etc.)

    So I hung up and went thru that supplier’s website to make the order.

    As I typed in the shipping address of my street number and street name, and the local town, I selected “CA” from the drop down menu for the state wherein I reside.

    “CA” did not come up, but the expression “UN” did!

     

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  29. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    This just in:

    California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chair Sean Patrick Maloney argued Thursday that Newsom’s victory in the recall election this week should embolden Democratic politicians across the country to pursue more aggressive public health measures to quash the coronavirus pandemic — including the implementation of mask and vaccine mandates.

    Asked about the implications of the recall results for national Democrats, Newsom told CBS News his win meant “that we need to stiffen our spines and lean in to keeping people safe and healthy. That we shouldn’t be timid in trying to protect people’s lives and mitigate the spread and transmission of this disease. That it’s the right thing to do, but it’s also a motivating factor in this election.”

    Things are gonna be great… just great. We’re all in this together!

    So the plan is: The best way to get past the fact that none of the government interventions worked, harmed more people more than the virus did, and to hide the fact that Democratic governance at every level is a disaster is (drum roll, please!) to name the anti-vaxers and anti-maskers as the real enemy, pretend they are all white MAGA-hat militia guys, demonize them and win because the whole country is just like California so it will totally work.

    Yup. That sums it up.

    That’s why this election was important. The Left takes the result as a mandate to double down, whether justified or not. Reality is not their strong suit. Thus, they will crack down harder wherever they can. Americans who prefer safety to liberty will end up with neither, regardless of whether Franklin had anything to say about this or not.

    This graphic says it all. To support this meme, the numbers of COV deaths, COV hospitalizations and cases  will continue to be ratcheted upwards in The Golden State.

    LA County already is about to become even more heavy handed about entering  any nightclubs, restaurants, stadium games and concerts  by issuing  more restrictive measures.

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  30. CACrabtree Coolidge
    CACrabtree
    @CACrabtree

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    This just in:

    California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chair Sean Patrick Maloney argued Thursday that Newsom’s victory in the recall election this week should embolden Democratic politicians across the country to pursue more aggressive public health measures to quash the coronavirus pandemic — including the implementation of mask and vaccine mandates.

    Asked about the implications of the recall results for national Democrats, Newsom told CBS News his win meant “that we need to stiffen our spines and lean in to keeping people safe and healthy. That we shouldn’t be timid in trying to protect people’s lives and mitigate the spread and transmission of this disease. That it’s the right thing to do, but it’s also a motivating factor in this election.”

    Things are gonna be great… just great. We’re all in this together!

    So the plan is: The best way to get past the fact that none of the government interventions worked, harmed more people more than the virus did, and to hide the fact that Democratic governance at every level is a disaster is (drum roll, please!) to name the anti-vaxers and anti-maskers as the real enemy, pretend they are all white MAGA-hat militia guys, demonize them and win because the whole country is just like California so it will totally work.

    Yup. That sums it up.

    That’s why this election was important. The Left takes the result as a mandate to double down, whether justified or not. Reality is not their strong suit. Thus, they will crack down harder wherever they can. Americans who prefer safety to liberty will end up with neither, regardless of whether Franklin had anything to say about this or not.

    This graphic says it all. To support this meme, the numbers of COV deaths, COV hospitalizations and cases will continue to be ratcheted upwards in The Golden State.

    LA County already is about to become even more heavy handed about entering any nightclubs, restaurants, stadium games and concerts by issuing more restrictive measures.

    Unless you’re one of 200,000 who’ve jumped over the border this year…

    • #30