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One Way Out: Immunity
ZDoggMD, or Dr. Zubin Damania, has been a voice of reason throughout all of this COVID nonsense.
His most recent full-length interview is well worth your watch.
What you’ll hear:
- Failure of messaging on vaccinations (and some interesting information on PCR testing)
- Vaccines work, but shaming and mandates don’t (Dr. Damania has come out strongly against mandates, because he believes proper messaging would have been better)
- SARS-CoV-2 will never go away, but it will become an endemic cold.
- Vaccines are better than masks
- Discussing therapuetics (yes, even Ivermectin) is important and yet, the left lose their minds over it
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563
If the duo mentioned the critical factor in what caused this “plandemic” to become a “pandemic” I didn’t hear the mention.
For anyone employing the designation of physician who does not during any interview call out the suppression of actual remedies such as HCQ, ivermectin, high dose C and d and zinc, as well as avoiding the call out of the Fauci/FDA approval of remdesivir – a drug that curdles one’s kidneys and then goes on to cause such edema there is wide spread organ failure – that person or persons do not deserve the designation of MD.
Over in India, one of the Indian states revealed today that COVID there is ended. That state turned away from COVID vaxxes & employed ivermectin.
Totally pathetic that a developing nation understands the importance of common sense & results in the field, as far as how to best manage a crisis. Meanwhile we in America are subjected to the Science-ey propositions of Fauci & his insistence on a Gold Standard, that just as we saw in the late 1980s, then ended up being more expensive than an available remedy & presenting tremendous side effects including death.
They did talk about this, and Dr. Damania has discussed it several times.
At this point I am unsure what you want. I have realized that there is no one I agree with 100% of the time and no one agrees with me 100% of the time. Reagan said that a person who agrees with you 80% of the time is a friend and ally not a 20% traitor.
These two left -left of center Doctors came out against vaccine mandates, against the threats and shaming.
They talked a excitedly about not just vaccines but about treatment options, and several different treatments. The defended ivermectin as an important people drug and not “horse dewormer”. The then took a neutral view of the drugs use in COVID saying they wanted to see quality research.
Ivermectin is currently a political issue, not a science issue. You want to change the discussion, then you need exactly what they are asking for, a true double blind study. Use the Scientific Method like we learned in grade school
Leftist doctors who support most of what you want are friends not traitors.
I am your 100% ally here. As the great KP told me just the other day, this COVID stuff isn’t really about science, it’s about the culture war. What is weird to me is to find myself at odds with my erstwhile allies in that war.
Does anyone here know what happened to the CDC thread that was going on around the same time as this one? It seems to have disappeared in the last day or so.
As my editor at the indie magazine/monthly newspaper I worked at, the duo buried their lead in statement.
I do not have the patience to listen to a lengthy presentation, in which
I followed Marci’s excellent article on the CDC and yesterday received a PM from another Ricochet member, that it was missing. But it was showing up in my notifications, so I have no idea what was going on? I was away from ricochet for a while so my notification of so many new comments on the CDC article might have been over 15 hours old.
If it has been disappeared, I would love to know why!
@jager
Okay the first problem I have with these two doctors is their initial opening presentation of how the messaging regarding the COV vaccine got it wrong.
Not sure that is even correct. For those of us who have been following the entire Cult of COVID, since at least mid February 2020, Fauci himself explained quite early on that the initial vaccines would not prevent a vaccinated person from being infected with COVID itself and would not prevent transmission of the disease. Rather it was carefully laid out to the public that what the vaccine would do would be exactly what this duo say the message should have been: minimized the severity of the infection so the infected person would not end up in the hospital.
So in the first two minutes, they already have my dander up because apparently they never knew of, or else have totally forgotten, the initial remarks by Fauci and other agency health officials.
Once they misrepresent the vaccine programs initial mission statement as not having been stated, I lost interest.
Also, it is true that the usage of HCQ and ivermectin has been politicized. But the entire reality of how American science has become nothing more than the standardization of health care run by the bureaucratic class for their benefit and that of the Big Industry executives who over the last thirty years have completely captured the regulatory agencies of the USA, such that it is now the citizens who are being regulated and not industry – this politicization should mean that for every moment doctors like Dr Damania and Dr Ghandi are doing their podcasts for the public, they should be spending three times that effort knocking down the doors of local public health officials, and Congress critters.
I just spent 45 minutes listening to an astounding and confounding portrayal of America’s health system in crisis presented by Melissa Gunderson of Vancouver Washington.
What becomes apparent in hearing this woman’s plight, as she spent days attempting to get her hospitalized husband the prescription filled that her husband’s new doctor wrote out, while the Lefty doctors of the Vancouver hospital who had put him into an ICU ward for very little if any reason, other than to punish him for having become infected with COVID while not being vaxxed – her tale is a nightmare. (Where you get your idea that Lefties are anti-vaccine and pro-ivermectin, I don’t know. But all Lake County Calif lefties are pro-vaccine, and follow their leader Rachel MadCow that ivermectin is not a Nobel Prize winning medication used 3.7 billion times with only 4 deaths reported, but a medication only used to de-worm horses.)
END of Part One
@jager
Part Two
Hearing Melissa Gunderson’s heart breaking report of the murderous treatment her husband received in the Vancouver hospital where he was treated like a prison inmate, this report indicates we now live in a nation where the top health people in our nation are working for something far removed from their mission of looking out for our health.
Is Fauci working for Pfizer/Moderna? For The WHO & The UN, both of which are heavily controlled by the CCP?
Fauci’s work going back to 2014 -2015 work included funding the Wuhan lab in its banned-in-America gain of function studies, which more than likely brought the world COVID 19.
So then American-funded scientists in Wuhan, China and in Univ of No Carolina laboratory bring about a virus. These scientists worked hard designing the SARs/coronavirus hybrid into becoming super communicable.
Then a law abiding, usually healthy citizen gets infected with COVID (or pneumonia or the flu) and then according to CDC/NIH guidelines of Oct 8th/9th 2020, the man’s personal physician is not to be concerned about that man or even to offer him treatments. Instead that CDC/NIH guideline advises the Vancouver Washington physician to ignore the individual until they are in the hospital.
Then once the individual is in the hospital, the health professionals refuse to offer the prescription meds the individual’s wife has gotten as prescriptions from a new doctor. The hospital staff refuses to honor that prescription saying state standard of care will not allow it. (Meanwhile the wife comes down with the exact same mild to moderate symptoms that have landed her husband first in a hospital bed and then in the ICU. She uses the prescription written for her for ivermectin is able to fully recover from her infection.)
The hospital “health professionals” are adamant that the State of Washington standard of care is a protocol forbidding ivermectin. In developing nations, it is being used with such success that a very populated state in India just announced the end of COVID there, once vaccination was taken out of the equation and prescribing ivermectin was put in!
But why should we in America use common sense? After all, in today’s America, we can let “men of science” like Fauci bring about “double blind clinical studies” that allow for FDA approval of the kidney-destroying remdesivir & common hospital usage!
She attempts for first hours and then days to get her husband out of the hospital. But she is denied it with such excuses as the hospital has no way to offer the husband an oxygen supply.
Her tale ends with a phone call from a nurse who has her husband on line and when he speaks, he is obviously weak and confused and so in the end she is about to offer up “Okay put him on the vent” as they are withholding treatment and what else can she do?
This is health care in the USA!