Biden to Announce Vaccine Mandates

 

Later this afternoon, President Joe Biden will unveil a new plan to get more Americans vaccinated. We know the plan will require all federal employees to be vaccinated without an opt-out. Previous mandates for federal employees allowed individuals who do not wish to be vaccinated to get regular testing instead.

Last month the Biden administration announced that the US military, the only public sector employees without a union, are mandated to get vaccinated against COVID-19.

Today’s proposals are not only for federal employees. President Biden is expected to mandate that employees of federal contractors are also vaccinated. These mandates are now moving beyond the public sector and into the private.

Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie posted on Twitter, “He (President Biden) doesn’t have the power to mandate this. If the government could mandate the vaccine for federal employees & contractors, it would require a vote of Congress. It’s medical tyranny. People will remember those who did this to them & who did not speak out.”

This push for vaccine mandates is primarily due to the Biden administration seeking a public victory. Just a week before the 2020 election, Biden tweeted, “I’m not going to shut down the country. I’m not going to shut down the economy. I’m going to shut down the virus.”

However, his short time in office has seen a rise in COVID cases. The country currently sees over 150,000 daily COVID-19 cases, 100,000 hospitalizations, and around 1,000 COVID-19 deaths. A bad jobs report and the Afghan withdrawal have the administration seeking a victory anywhere they can get it.

When asked about mandatory vaccines in December, President-elect Biden said, “no, I don’t think it should be mandatory. I wouldn’t demand it to be mandatory. But I would do everything in my power. Just like I don’t think masks have to be made mandatory nationwide.”

Since December, the federal government and the CDC have flip-flopped on mask mandates.

Today’s proposal mandating vaccination of employees of federal contractors had reporters asking how far the president is willing to go to get Americans vaccinated.

When asked, “how bold is the president willing to be as far as the private sector is concerned with the vaccine mandate. Even if they don’t have federal contracts can the Department of Labor or anyone else compel major employers, the large employers, to force the vaccine mandates on their employees?”

White House Press Secretary, Jen Psaki, responded: “yes, stay tuned.”

Rep. Massie made an excellent point. If the government could require mandatory vaccines, in this case for people who do not work for the government, then that law should be passed by congress. However, at the federal and state level during the covid pandemic, many of the mandates have been a push by the executive branch. A country where the executive can mandate vaccination to private companies and non-federal employees is not a republic.

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  1. jmelvin Member
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    What disgusting acts from a power mad administration.

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  2. Nohaaj Coolidge
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    Stay tuned said Psaki:  all employers with over 100 employees must require vaccines for continued employment.

    Tyranny I see your face. 

     

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  3. Brian Watt Inactive
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    Well, let’s see what the Supreme Court does with it. Any bets on how John Roberts will rule?

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  4. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    I suppose this is the result of the slippery slope called Obamacare.  When “healthcare” becomes a “right” provided by government,  the government can make you do whatever it wants to protect its investment.  Biden is not senile. He is a tyrant.

    Rush used to say he would tell us when it is time to panic.  Well….

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  5. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Is this a law, rightfully passed by Congress and signed by the President?

    No?

    Then it’s not a law.

    If they want to make it a law, they’ve got to do it the right way — and force those bastards in Congress to put their names to it.

    And then we vote out every single one of those bastards, especially the Republican ones.

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  6. Seawriter Contributor
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    Guess I will have to quit my job if that is a requirement. I am not interested in revealing my vaccination status as a condition of employment. 

    They need me more than I need the job. 

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    @BryanGStephens

    HMMM.

    But Trump was a threat to freedom?

     

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  8. Jager Coolidge
    Jager
    @Jager

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Well, let’s see what the Supreme Court does with it. Any bets on how John Roberts will rule?

    The Court allowed the Indiana University mandate to proceed, so they don’t appear to be against mandates per se. The argument would have to be the manner this mandate was enacted or a separation of powers type thing (only Congress can do this).

    At this point I have given up trying to understand what some of the “conservative” Justices will do.

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  9. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Stay tuned said Psaki: all employers with over 100 employees must require vaccines for continued employment.

    Tyranny I see your face.

    From the link above:

    The expansive rules mandate that all employers with more than 100 workers require them to be vaccinated or test for the virus weekly, affecting about 80 million Americans. And the roughly 17 million workers at health facilities that receive federal Medicare or Medicaid also will have to be fully vaccinated.

    Biden will have OSHA make a rule requiring employees of companies to be tested. Companies will have to pay for the testing, but they can pass the cost on to employees.

    Biden is also signing an executive order to require vaccination for employees of the executive branch and contractors who do business with the federal government — with no option to test instead. That covers several million more workers.

    In addition to the vaccination requirements, Biden is moving to double federal fines for airline passengers who refuse to wear masks on flights or to maintain face-covering requirements on federal property in accordance with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines.

    The rule would also require that large companies provide paid time off for vaccination.

    According to Forbes, Businesses that refuse to comply with the mandate will open themselves up to hefty fines up to nearly $14,000 per violation.

    In July, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki told reporters that a federal vaccine mandate was “not the role of the federal government.”

    OSHA rules and executive orders.

    SCOTUS better weigh in quickly.

    By the way, masks don’t work to stop the spread of COVID. So forcing people to wear one is abuse.

    Time for a revolution.

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  10. Nohaaj Coolidge
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    When will the media, and Hollywood, and the rest start calling Biden:  Hitler, A Nazi,  Tyrannical Despot, a Dictator, and all the rest that we heard hourly for years about Trump.  Who will call this out? 

     

    Crickets. 

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  11. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    When will the media, and Hollywood, and the rest start calling Biden: Hitler, A Nazi, Tyrannical Despot, a Dictator, and all the rest that we heard hourly for years about Trump. Who will call this out?

     

    Crickets.

    Where are our resident never Trumpers,  the proud Biden voters?

     

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  12. Bishop Wash Member
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    Eric Martin: Later this afternoon, President Joe Biden will unveil a new plan to get more Americans vaccinated. We know the plan will require all federal employees to be vaccinated without opt-out. Previous mandates for federal employees allowed individuals who do not wish to be vaccinated to get regular testing instead. 

    Thanks Gary for working so hard to get this tyrant in office. Now I have to figure out how to keep my job or find a new one. Nothing has come down at work yet, but I’m sure there is no mention of actually having Wu Flu. It’s all pushing the vaccinations. 

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  13. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    Nothing has come down at work yet, but I’m sure there is no mention of actually having Wu Flu. It’s all pushing the vaccinations. 

    Nope. Government drones don’t count natural immunity. Not that it should matter. Vaccine mandates should never happen. Nobody should be silent on this.

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  14. Flicker Coolidge
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    I just read an article on Marek’s disease in chickens.  The hot variant kills all chickens in 10 days.  In the 70s  a vaccine was developed which first showed what leaky vaccines do.  The vaccinated chickens don’t have any bad effects, but they shed the virus copiously and shed (if I understand this correctly) a “hotter” or more deadly variant than they were exposed to, and infect and kill all unvaccinated chickens.  So the unvaccinated need to be kept away for majority that are vaccinated or they’ll die.

    Perhaps this is why there’s such a push around the world to vaccinate everyone.  Perhaps they now know the adverse effects of the leaky vaccine, and know that the damage has been done, and are now set on vaccinating the whole world in a misguided attempt to correct their mistake.

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  15. Jager Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    I just read an article on Marek’s disease in chickens. The hot variant kills all chickens in 10 days. In the 70s a vaccine was developed which first showed what leaky vaccines do. The vaccinated chickens don’t have any bad effects, but they shed the virus copiously and shed (if I understand this correctly) a “hotter” or more deadly variant than they were exposed to, and infect and kill all unvaccinated chickens. So the unvaccinated need to be kept away for majority that are vaccinated or they’ll die.

    Perhaps this is why there’s such a push around the world to vaccinate everyone. Perhaps they now know the adverse effects of the leaky vaccine, and know that the damage has been done, and are now set on vaccinating the whole world in a misguided attempt to correct their mistake.

    By this logic we should all be dead already. Every year the Flu comes through, a lot of people voluntarily take a flu shot, but a lot don’t. The flu shot does not stop all infections, it lessens the likelihood of infection and the severity of the illness.  By your logic here a “super” or “hot” flu should have devastated the Country some time since 1945 when the Flu vaccine first started, 

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  16. Fritz Coolidge
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    I am of the view there is zero legal authority for these sweeping mandates.

    At the same time, if the federal workforce is reduced by a few million federal employees who are terminated for refusing the shot, is that altogether a bad thing? /jk

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  17. Flicker Coolidge
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    Jager (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I just read an article on Marek’s disease in chickens. The hot variant kills all chickens in 10 days. In the 70s a vaccine was developed which first showed what leaky vaccines do. The vaccinated chickens don’t have any bad effects, but they shed the virus copiously and shed (if I understand this correctly) a “hotter” or more deadly variant than they were exposed to, and infect and kill all unvaccinated chickens. So the unvaccinated need to be kept away for majority that are vaccinated or they’ll die.

    Perhaps this is why there’s such a push around the world to vaccinate everyone. Perhaps they now know the adverse effects of the leaky vaccine, and know that the damage has been done, and are now set on vaccinating the whole world in a misguided attempt to correct their mistake.

    By this logic we should all be dead already. Every year the Flu comes through, a lot of people voluntarily take a flu shot, but a lot don’t. The flu shot does not stop all infections, it lessens the likelihood of infection and the severity of the illness. By your logic here a “super” or “hot” flu should have devastated the Country some time since 1945 when the Flu vaccine first started,

    The “dead in ten days” only applies to Marek’s disease.   But we do see circumstances where death rates have sky rocketed after beginning vaccination.

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  18. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Is this a law, rightfully passed by Congress and signed by the President?

    No?

    Then it’s not a law.

    If they want to make it a law, they’ve got to do it the right way — and force those bastards in Congress to put their names to it.

    And then we vote out every single one of those bastards, especially the Republican ones.

    This is how JB Pritzker and a lot of governors have been operating for the past 18+ months.  

    Perhaps this is why they are putting the fence up around the Capitol again.  

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  19. Flicker Coolidge
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    Jager (View Comment):
    By your logic here a “super” or “hot” flu should have devastated the Country some time since 1945 when the Flu vaccine first started,

    It’s not my logic.  And it’s not “super” — you’re being hyperbolic.  I said “hotter”, not hottest or hotter-than-hot.  And the flaw was in the vaccine; in our current case, for a novel man-made virus, not the flu virus.  You have to exaggerate to make your point.

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  20. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    And some private businesses will go along with it without waiting for it to be litigated. It’s going to take some prominent business owners with big sticks to stand up against this and defend their employees. I wonder if there are any left. This is just the tip of the iceberg, and it has nothing to do with healthcare. 

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  21. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Perhaps this is why they are putting the fence up around the Capitol again.

    Are they? Yeah, I think they know that the proles are not happy with them.

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  22. Fritz Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Perhaps this is why they are putting the fence up around the Capitol again.

    Are they? Yeah, I think they know that the proles are not happy with them.

    Aren’t both houses about due to return from their August/Labor Day recess? Interesting timing.

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  23. Bishop Wash Member
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    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):
    Perhaps this is why they are putting the fence up around the Capitol again. 

    They are? I hadn’t heard that.

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  24. Brian Watt Inactive
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    Pushing this through OSHA does make it difficult to fight.

    Anticipate that some companies with slightly over 100 employees will lay off people to get under the requirement threshold. So, unemployment numbers will begin to ratchet up.

    Then there’s the enforcement mechanism. In order to monitor and enforce this dictate what new bureaucracy will be created or existing agency expanded to make sure that companies comply? And beyond fines, will some business owners be arrested for not complying? (Some guy wrote a satirical post along these lines. It’s on the Main Feed.)

    Meanwhile, no vaccine mandates for hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens or tens of thousands of undocumented Afghan refugees but mandates for gainfully employed Americans, some of whom had the virus but developed immunity when their anitibodies fought it and some who may not be able to take the vaccination because of other medical conditions.

    Curious if DeSantis, Abbott, or Noem or a group of attorneys general will fight this in their states…setting up a test case for the Supremes.

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  25. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Well, let’s not let this opportunity go to waste. Who’s up for a little demonstration in DC?

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  26. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    The more vaccinations, the quicker variants emerge and the greater the danger to high risk people. These folks are insane.

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  27. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Curious if DeSantis, Abbott, or Noem or a group of attorneys general will fight this in their states…setting up a test case for the Supremes.

    I hope so. But this may be another situation where China Joe figures that’ll take some time before SCOTUS slaps him down, so he might as well abuse Americans while he can.

    Is this the absolute worst administration in American history?

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  28. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    The more vaccinations, the quicker variants emerge and the greater the danger to high risk people. These folks are insane.

    On the other hand, if they were actively trying to “reduce the surplus population,” how would they be behaving any differently?

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  29. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    Fritz (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Perhaps this is why they are putting the fence up around the Capitol again.

    Are they? Yeah, I think they know that the proles are not happy with them.

    Aren’t both houses about due to return from their August/Labor Day recess? Interesting timing.

    Associated Press:

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Law enforcement officials concerned by the prospect for violence at a rally in the nation’s capital next week are planning to reinstall protective fencing that surrounded the U.S. Capitol for months after the Jan. 6 insurrection there, according to a person familiar with the discussions.

    [Snip]

    A security plan that is being finalized calls for a fenced perimeter on the streets immediately surrounding the Capitol building and the Supreme Court, though not around the congressional office buildings nearby, said the person, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity ahead of an official announcement.

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  30. Jager Coolidge
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    Fritz (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Perhaps this is why they are putting the fence up around the Capitol again.

    Are they? Yeah, I think they know that the proles are not happy with them.

    Aren’t both houses about due to return from their August/Labor Day recess? Interesting timing.

    The fence is going up because some small group is planning a rally on September 18. The police are worried.

    The Oathkeepers and Proud Boys have both said they have no plans to attend and that they think it is a law enforcement set up to create another January 6th event to arrest more people

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/09/proud-boys-oath-keepers-september-18-false-flag/

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