Labor Day Is a Commie Holiday, Change My Mind

 

You know how I know Labor Day is a commie holiday? Nah, nah, it’s not the history of its inception. I’ll let R> historians address that.

It’s that it’s a damn lie and distortion of language. Propaganda, if you will.

“Labor Day” is supposed to honor the American worker, I guess. But, tell that to retail workers this weekend. Or the truckers who resupply the stores. Or people working the restaurants, hotels, and resorts where other workers will take their vacations this weekend. The only people assured of a day of rest are government workers — and not even all of them (essential military personnel).

Only commies could arrange it so that a holiday supposedly giving laborers a break have them working harder than ever. Damned commies.

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  1. Judge Mental Member
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    Labor means union labor.

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  2. Old Bathos Moderator
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    The Christian missionaries in late Roman Europe did not take away pagan holidays.  They co-opted them. Instead of a silly Marxist class warfare day, what should Labor Day be?  Like a beer commercial that honors ordinary people who just get stuff done for us?

    There is a ton of Catholic teaching on the sanctity of work.  A designated day off from labor is supposed to be a moment of reflection and affirmation (eg. Jewish Sabbath).  

    So what affirmation of a more conservative bent should be inserted?

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  3. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Labor means union labor.

    Yes, particularly public sector labor unions. 

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  4. Manny Member
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    LOL. It may well have started as a token to the commies – I’m not 100% sure of the history- but I think a day to honor workers is warranted. I think of it as a tip at the end of a bill to honor the work. In Catholic circles, we honor St. Joseph as a worker. There is merit in honoring work in as much it honors the dignity of work. If it did start out as a commie holiday it can now be transformed into a capitalist honoring on the dignity of self sufficiency and work and not being on welfare. 

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  5. Vance Richards Member
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     Commie or not, I’m not going to work on Monday . . . change my mind

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  6. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    In the past, stores closed on holidays so workers had the day off. The public demanded 24/7 shopping, so stores obliged. Most workers get extra pay for working on holidays. 

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  7. Arahant Member
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    Commie or not, I’m not going to work on Monday . . . change my mind

    Have fun. I’ll be working.

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  8. drlorentz Member
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    Labor Day was a compromise to avoid May Day, the genuine commie holiday. True blue commies in America still celebrate May Day. I recall stumbling across a May Day celebration in Portland (I know, I know) about ten years ago. My only interest in May Day is from the pagan fertility rite angle: “Hooray, hooray, it’s the first of May.”

    Is Labor Day just another case of the Right compromising with the Left, thereby advancing the ratchet another notch (or ten)? Or was it a reasonable way to deflect yet another commie hijacking of the culture? I’ll just leave that question for wiser folks to debate.

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  9. Judge Mental Member
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    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Labor Day was a compromise to avoid May Day, the genuine commie holiday. True blue commies in America still celebrate May Day. I recall stumbling across a May Day celebration in Portland (I know, I know) about ten years ago. My only interest in May Day is from the pagan fertility rite angle: “Hooray, hooray, it’s the first of May.”

    Is Labor Day just another case of the Right compromising with the Left, thereby advancing the ratchet another notch (or ten)? Or was it a reasonable way to deflect yet another commie hijacking of the culture? I’ll just leave that question for wiser folks to debate.

    The compromise route would be a reasonable solution if you were dealing with reasonable people.  Give them half of what they want and you immediately get new demands, going farther than the original.  

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  10. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
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    What does communism have to do with Labor Day?  I celebrate labor.  I appreciate my wife for enduring labor, four times.  I do find it curious that we have both Labor Day and Mother’s Day, but I don’t mind the extra praise for all the moms.

    :)

    WC, I’m not going to try to convince you otherwise, because I agree with you.  I will nevertheless enjoy the day off.

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  11. Vance Richards Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    Commie or not, I’m not going to work on Monday . . . change my mind

    Have fun. I’ll be working.

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  12. Basil Fawlty Member
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    It’s not to honor birthing persons?

    (Sorry, Jerry. I missed your comment).

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  13. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    Same with May Day

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  14. Arahant Member
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):
    It’s not to honor birthing persons?

    My mother calls me up on my birthday and says, “Happy labor day!”

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  15. drlorentz Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    What does communism have to do with Labor Day? 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workers%27_Day

    The more you know…

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  16. Basil Fawlty Member
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    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    What does communism have to do with Labor Day?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workers%27_Day

    The more you know…

    Would you like to know more?

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  17. Spin Coolidge
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    Don’t care.  Four days off for me.  And the retail workers can just fuss around if’n they want.  They’ll all be robots soon anyhow…

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  18. Captain French Moderator
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    Spin (View Comment):

    Don’t care. Four days off for me. And the retail workers can just fuss around if’n they want. They’ll all be robots soon anyhow…

    Today I stopped at Costco for a hot dog. Ordering is now by a digital kiosk.

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  19. Jimmy Carter Member
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    Not wearing white after labor day is white privilege… change My mind.

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  20. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    In a capitalist society each person owns their labor.  That is worth celebrating.

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  21. Western Chauvinist Member
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    In a capitalist society each person owns their labor. That is worth celebrating.

    Is that what we have? A capitalist society? We’re working about half the year for the government (taxes) it seems to me. 

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  22. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    In the past, stores closed on holidays so workers had the day off. The public demanded 24/7 shopping, so stores obliged. Most workers get extra pay for working on holidays.

    In a lot of companies where they must operate on holidays, they will let employees who work the holiday take a different day off with pay.

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  23. drlorentz Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    In a capitalist society each person owns their labor. That is worth celebrating.

    Is that what we have? A capitalist society? We’re working about half the year for the government (taxes) it seems to me.

    The US has not been a capitalist society for about a century, certainly so after the adoption of the 16th Amendment and the New Deal. Most of the provisions of the 1928 Socialist Party platform have been adopted, as Milton Friedman pointed out many years ago. Read it and weep.

    As an aside, the US has not been a republic since the adoption of the 17th Amendment. 

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  24. Manny Member
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    Captain French (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Don’t care. Four days off for me. And the retail workers can just fuss around if’n they want. They’ll all be robots soon anyhow…

    Today I stopped at Costco for a hot dog. Ordering is now by a digital kiosk.

    It’s been that way for a while.  Ticked me off the first time I came across it.

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  25. BDB Coolidge
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    Manny (View Comment):

    LOL. It may well have started as a token to the commies – I’m not 100% sure of the history- but I think a day to honor workers is warranted. I think of it as a tip at the end of a bill to honor the work. In Catholic circles, we honor St. Joseph as a worker. There is merit in honoring work in as much it honors the dignity of work. If it did start out as a commie holiday it can now be transformed into a capitalist honoring on the dignity of self sufficiency and work and not being on welfare.

    “Tip”?  Here’s the whole thing:

    1. “Capitalist” is a commie term.
    2. Catholics have a structural proclivity for communism.
    3.  Pope John Paul II was one of our species’ greatest anti-communists.

    Life is complicated.

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  26. Manny Member
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    BDB (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    LOL. It may well have started as a token to the commies – I’m not 100% sure of the history- but I think a day to honor workers is warranted. I think of it as a tip at the end of a bill to honor the work. In Catholic circles, we honor St. Joseph as a worker. There is merit in honoring work in as much it honors the dignity of work. If it did start out as a commie holiday it can now be transformed into a capitalist honoring on the dignity of self sufficiency and work and not being on welfare.

    “Tip”? Here’s the whole thing:

    1. “Capitalist” is a commie term.
    2. Catholics have a structural proclivity for communism.
    3. Pope John Paul II was one of our species’ greatest anti-communists.

    Life is complicated.

    You are misinformed about #2.  Popes were writing encyclicals against communism since 1846 when it was condemned by Pope Pius IX,  From 1846 through Pope St. John Paul II there has been a continuity of anti communism from the papacy.  Communism has been condemned in Encyclicals from all those years.  I don’t even know which one of perhaps a dozen documents I should point you to.  Perhaps this one from 1937:

    Divini Redemptoris (Latin for the promise of a Divine Redeemer) is an anti-communist encyclical issued by Pope Pius XI. It was published on 19 March 1937. In this encyclical, the pope sets out to “expose once more in a brief synthesis the principles of atheistic Communism as they are manifested chiefly in Bolshevism”.

    Or perhaps this document from 1949:

    The Decree Against Communism was a 1949 Catholic Church document issued by the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office, and approved by Pope Pius XII, which declared Catholics who professed Communist doctrine to be excommunicated as apostates from the Christian faith.

    Opposition to Socialism and Communism in Catholic social teaching had already been expressed in the teachings of popes since the encyclicals Nostis et nobiscum (1849), Quanta cura (1864), and Rerum novarum (1891).

    Maybe you should learn a little something on a subject before making such declarative statements.  

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  27. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    In the past, stores closed on holidays so workers had the day off. The public demanded 24/7 shopping, so stores obliged. Most workers get extra pay for working on holidays.

    I try to avoid shopping on Sunday. 

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  28. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Which is worse?  The communists who want the workers of the world to unite and overthrow capitalists, or the people who don’t think anyone even needs to work?  The old fashioned communists were evil and wrong about a hundred different things, but even they realized someone must actually work.  You can read articles by over-educated 20-somethings who fantasize about a world where nobody has to work if they don’t feel like it.

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  29. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    See the source image

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  30. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    . . .

    Maybe you should learn a little something on a subject before making such declarative statements.

    I think BDB was observing that the Catholics coming over the southern border, for example, tend toward “socialism” (that nice feel-good communism, you know). There’s truth in that. Rather than dismiss it, I think we, as Catholics, should try to understand the reasons.

    You’re correct, Manny, that the Church teaches against communism (while recognizing the flaws in capitalism), but how many Catholics actually know or believe what the Church teaches? 10%? Fewer? Certainly not Joe Biden! And on topics way more important than economic systems (the Real Presence, abortion)!

    I always say that, within the Body of Christ, I am a collectivist. But, the Left (by which I mean Satan), has a way of corrupting all good things of God, including individualism (which Protestants tend to take too far (sorry, it’s true)) and collectivism (which many Catholics take too far). Liberation theology, which is Satan’s false promise of collective salvation (the flip-side of which is collective punishment — a grave evil being perpetrated in the current environment by the Left against conservatives Christians, especially if they’re white. . .) was born in Latin America. Catholic Latin America. It was condemned by St. PJPII, but it persists. So, the good that is the unity — the collective — within the Body of Christ in the Church has become corrupted and many Catholics have fallen for it and promote it in their economic philosophy.

    Fact check: True.

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