No Quarter

 

Sorry, you Biden-puffing Democrat piece of work.  I don’t care if you ran through Hell and put out the fires with a shovel.

Rep. Seth Moulton (MA), an Iraq War veteran and progressive Democrat, has refused to apologize to critics — including Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) — for his decision to take an unauthorized trip to Kabul to witness the Biden administration’s Afghanistan withdrawal operations firsthand — and he continued to blast the Biden administration in a tell-all interview with New York Magazine.

I don’t know anything about this can o’ paint — never heard of him.  And despite some good deeds done recently, and at personal risk, he can just sit right in the benches on his side of, you know, the thing.

I have no room in my heart for Biden-voting Republicans, no matter what excuse, so this Democrat is not getting any grace from me.  Rats from a sinking ship, all.  And if he has truly woken to the horror of his party — too late.  Ride that ticket to the grave, loser.

A Republican joined him on the trip — I never heard of him either, but I presume he’s okay.  Here’s hoping he didn’t also vote for Biden. [EDIT: Actually he did vote to impeach Trump, so he can eat off the floor with Moulton.  No wonder they’re friends.]

Moulton said that he and another veteran in Congress, Rep. Peter Meijer (R-MI), knew they would be criticized for the trip, and tried “to be as efficient as possible at finding the truth and saving a few lives.” The pair flew commercial to the United Arab Emirates, where they used connections to get on board a C-17 bound for Kabul, taking seats that would have been empty otherwise. He added that the trip was designed to create minimal interference in the mission and that he and Meijer felt forced to use military contacts when repeated requests to take an official trip were denied.

I’m glad they both went, but one of these things is not like the other.  I have no room in my heart for any of these Democrat deep-state cowards.  If you got in the musty bed with the party of Biden — stay there and rot.


Alright, I looked up Moulton.  Harvard BA in Physics (do they not have a BS program?), four tours in Iraq, USMC Captain (O-3).  All sound fantastic.  Then why the deep-state socialism?  The disconnect is between his service and his politics, not something on this side.

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  1. Gary Robbins Member
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.

    What if he says that he is an American?  Would you still spit in his face?  

    When Ronald Reagan was shot he told the doctors that he hoped that they were all Republicans.  The response was picture perfect, “Today we are all Republicans Mr. President.”

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  2. BDB Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.

    What if he says that he is an American? Would you still spit in his face?

    When Ronald Reagan was shot he told the doctors that he hoped that they were all Republicans. The response was picture perfect, “Today we are all Republicans Mr. President.”

    This is priceless.

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  3. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.

    You would really spit in the face of a rescuer?

    Yes. But ironically.

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  4. Django Member
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    <sarcasm>Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.</sarcasm>

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  5. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    What if he says that he is an American?  Would you still spit in his face?  

    Irony is hard. Stupidity is easy.

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  6. Flicker Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    <sarcasm>Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.</sarcasm>

    That’s not sarcasm, that’s pure nasty.  I’m surprised that he could think of it, let alone type it.  But this is growing more and more common among Ricochet management.

    It’s one thing for a member to be crude and uncivil, it’s a different matter for those who represent the site to be.  It sets a bad example and endorses a crude and disrespectful t0ne.

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  7. lowtech redneck Coolidge
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Anyone who votes democrat in today’s politically polarized society may have been purely ignorant, but after this past week there is no longer any excuse, if there ever was.

    The democrats have been taken over by the communists.

    I would say the embrace of Orwellian racism and BLM riots in 2020 was the point in which no decent, politically informed person could vote for the Democrats (there are still a lot of ignorant people who can become informed and thereby convinced, but the others have already made their choice for the side that cannot abide our existence).

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  8. TBA Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.

    You would really spit in the face of a rescuer?

    I think that was writ ironical. 

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  9. BDB Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    <sarcasm>Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.</sarcasm>

    That’s not sarcasm, that’s pure nasty. I’m surprised that he could think of it, let alone type it. But this is growing more and more common among Ricochet management.

    It’s one thing for a member to be crude and uncivil, it’s a different matter for those who represent the site to be. It sets a bad example and endorses a crude and disrespectful t0ne.

    While I disagree with Lileks and his tendentious analogy, I’ll quibble with your criticism — his comment is in tone with with the post.  But wait!  That is, I do not find his retort crude or disrespectful (just wanting and frankly, weak tea), and the post is combative enough. Plain speech is still welcome here, which is a big part of why I’m back. 

    Naturally, in my opinion, the mighty-fine OP is neither crude nor disrespectful, except for the clear disrespect toward an intentional public figure who is making his  bones.  I gave respect where I felt warranted, but the point of the post is that I am not fooled by the occasional respectable behavior of those who have landed us in this post-coup purgatory.  Neither Lileks nor anybody on this site has had a direct role in bringing about this disaster.  Ricochet but pawn in game of life.  And for the money, it’s the best deal going for conservatives.

    I look forward to being called a shill for TPTB @ R>, which is funnier than you know (but not by you, as I suspect that you and I are quite close on most views).

    I disagree with Lileks (but glad to hear his input).  I have contempt for Moulton.  I don’t know where the line is, but my Goodness, there’s a lot of ground in there.  And I cannot segue like Lileks, may Rob Long ever thwart him.  Oh wait…

     

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  10. Flicker Coolidge
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    BDB (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    <sarcasm>Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.</sarcasm>

    That’s not sarcasm, that’s pure nasty. I’m surprised that he could think of it, let alone type it. But this is growing more and more common among Ricochet management.

    It’s one thing for a member to be crude and uncivil, it’s a different matter for those who represent the site to be. It sets a bad example and endorses a crude and disrespectful t0ne.

    While I disagree with Lileks and his tendentious analogy, I’ll quibble with your criticism — his comment is in tone with with the post. But wait! That is, I do not find his retort crude or disrespectful (just wanting and frankly, weak tea), and the post is combative enough. Plain speech is still welcome here, which is a big part of why I’m back.

    Naturally, in my opinion, the mighty-fine OP is neither crude nor disrespectful, except for the clear disrespect toward an intentional public figure who is making his bones. I gave respect where I felt warranted, but the point of the post is that I am not fooled by the occasional respectable behavior of those who have landed us in this post-coup purgatory. Neither Lileks nor anybody on this site has had a direct role in bringing about this disaster. Ricochet but pawn in game of life. And for the money, it’s the best deal going for conservatives.

    I look forward to being called a shill for TPTB @ R>, which is funnier than you know (but not by you, as I suspect that you and I are quite close on most views).

    I disagree with Lileks (but glad to hear his input). I have contempt for Moulton. I don’t know where the line is, but my Goodness, there’s a lot of ground in there. And I cannot segue like Lileks, may Rob Long ever thwart him. Oh wait…

    Members enjoy more latitude than he hosts.  I know I am probably in the minority here, and can be taken as a prude, but I see this spreading: from yeti to EJ Hill and now to Lileks.  Is there no standard for comportment with those who work for the site?

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  11. BDB Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    <sarcasm>Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.</sarcasm>

    That’s not sarcasm, that’s pure nasty. I’m surprised that he could think of it, let alone type it. But this is growing more and more common among Ricochet management.

    It’s one thing for a member to be crude and uncivil, it’s a different matter for those who represent the site to be. It sets a bad example and endorses a crude and disrespectful t0ne.

    While I disagree with Lileks and his tendentious analogy, I’ll quibble with your criticism — his comment is in tone with with the post. But wait! That is, I do not find his retort crude or disrespectful (just wanting and frankly, weak tea), and the post is combative enough. Plain speech is still welcome here, which is a big part of why I’m back.

    Naturally, in my opinion, the mighty-fine OP is neither crude nor disrespectful, except for the clear disrespect toward an intentional public figure who is making his bones. I gave respect where I felt warranted, but the point of the post is that I am not fooled by the occasional respectable behavior of those who have landed us in this post-coup purgatory. Neither Lileks nor anybody on this site has had a direct role in bringing about this disaster. Ricochet but pawn in game of life. And for the money, it’s the best deal going for conservatives.

    I look forward to being called a shill for TPTB @ R>, which is funnier than you know (but not by you, as I suspect that you and I are quite close on most views).

    I disagree with Lileks (but glad to hear his input). I have contempt for Moulton. I don’t know where the line is, but my Goodness, there’s a lot of ground in there. And I cannot segue like Lileks, may Rob Long ever thwart him. Oh wait…

    Members enjoy more latitude than he hosts. I know I am probably in the minority here, and can be taken as a prude, but I see this spreading: from yeti to EJ Hill and now to Lileks. Is there no standard for comportment with those who work for the site?

    Brother, things have gotten much better.  I say take it as it is and be if not grateful, at least sanguine.  More to follow at some point.  This is the last refuge, and not everybody sees it the way we do. 
    Advice: take it as it is.  But I won’t tell you what to do, and I’ll shut up about it. 

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  12. Franco Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    <sarcasm>Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.</sarcasm>

    That’s not sarcasm, that’s pure nasty. I’m surprised that he could think of it, let alone type it. But this is growing more and more common among Ricochet management.

    It’s one thing for a member to be crude and uncivil, it’s a different matter for those who represent the site to be. It sets a bad example and endorses a crude and disrespectful t0ne.

    While I disagree with Lileks and his tendentious analogy, I’ll quibble with your criticism — his comment is in tone with with the post. But wait! That is, I do not find his retort crude or disrespectful (just wanting and frankly, weak tea), and the post is combative enough. Plain speech is still welcome here, which is a big part of why I’m back.

    Naturally, in my opinion, the mighty-fine OP is neither crude nor disrespectful, except for the clear disrespect toward an intentional public figure who is making his bones. I gave respect where I felt warranted, but the point of the post is that I am not fooled by the occasional respectable behavior of those who have landed us in this post-coup purgatory. Neither Lileks nor anybody on this site has had a direct role in bringing about this disaster. Ricochet but pawn in game of life. And for the money, it’s the best deal going for conservatives.

    I look forward to being called a shill for TPTB @ R>, which is funnier than you know (but not by you, as I suspect that you and I are quite close on most views).

    I disagree with Lileks (but glad to hear his input). I have contempt for Moulton. I don’t know where the line is, but my Goodness, there’s a lot of ground in there. And I cannot segue like Lileks, may Rob Long ever thwart him. Oh wait…

    Members enjoy more latitude than he hosts. I know I am probably in the minority here, and can be taken as a prude, but I see this spreading: from yeti to EJ Hill and now to Lileks. Is there no standard for comportment with those who work for the site?

    I appreciate the interactions at least we know where they stand. And by my scoring, they aren’t bringing their best game, as in the case of that strange non-sequetorial comment.

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  13. Franco Member
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    The idea that “we are all in this thing together” was relevant in the past, but has become increasingly non-tenable as we proceed. Certainly the NT contingent proved spectacularly disloyal – even when they tried to play along, ultimately they couldn’t help themselves. 

    This crowd thrives on solidarity when Democrats are in power, complaining, opining, pointing out the obvious in ever more creative ways, but they’ve proven themselves fickle allies when the people who tend to vote Republican have different agendas than they. 

    That’s why we are seeing this reaction regarding Biden’s pathetic incompetence. For my part, I’m not quite ready to hear their lamentations after their feckless support,  and their complete silence when a Republican President was unfairly attacked on a continual basis.

    It didn’t have to be this way.

     

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  14. BDB Inactive
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    Franco (View Comment):
    It didn’t have to be this way.

    I’ve said this many times, and seen it just since re-joining many more times.

    This is the lament and the rallying cry of the heartbroken American people.  We shall see.

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  15. Hoyacon Member
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    As I indicated above, I’m no fan of Moulton.  Still, when one is from MA, one does tend to look for bright spots in Democrats.  At least Moulton served as a Marine.  My former congressperson, Mr. Barney Frank, is best known for having a young man with whom he was involved run an escort service out of Frank’s Capitol Hill home.   I’ll take the Marine over that.

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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    As I indicated above, I’m no fan of Moulton. Still, when one is from MA, one does tend to look for bright spots in Democrats. At least Moulton served as a Marine. My former congressperson, Mr. Barney Frank, is best know for having a young man with whom he was involved run an escort service out of Frank’s Capitol Hill home. I’ll take the Marine over that.

    I get it, but I’m not looking at relative merit.  He’s part of the coup.  He gets to own this administration and the deep state that props it up.  I don’t know what went wrong in his head* or when, but it’s not my problem.

    *”Harvard”.

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  17. No Caesar Thatcher
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    As I indicated above, I’m no fan of Moulton. Still, when one is from MA, one does tend to look for bright spots in Democrats. At least Moulton served as a Marine. My former congressperson, Mr. Barney Frank, is best known for having a young man with whom he was involved run an escort service out of Frank’s Capitol Hill home. I’ll take the Marine over that.

    It’s worth noting that Moulton initially ran for Congress as an Independent, apparently.  He failed and then ran again as a Democrat.  (It is Massachusetts).  Also, the Other-Than-Boston-Herald papers are complaining about how the Progressive wing of their party hates him.  The implication being that he’s a centrist (by New England standards).   I don’t have a strong opinion, I do think he is crafty and playing a long game.  What I’ve seen so far suggests that he wants to take over the Democrats and make them more like Mike Bloomberg (sans the big gulp obsessions).  I don’t know if this is true, but if true, it would be a welcome shift toward less insanity in the Democrat party. On the other hand he could be a John Kerry, and hiding his wokeness.  Regardless, worth watching and one to beware of. 

    Regardless, I’m glad that they both went to Kabul.  They were right to, and given that they are both combat veterans, they know how to take care of themselves.  They seemed to take all reasonable steps to lessen the footprint of their trip.  Besides there is no way the Pentagon can say, ‘get out of our way we know what we’re doing.”  They’re also young enough to learn something…

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  18. BDB Inactive
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    No Caesar (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    As I indicated above, I’m no fan of Moulton. Still, when one is from MA, one does tend to look for bright spots in Democrats. At least Moulton served as a Marine. My former congressperson, Mr. Barney Frank, is best known for having a young man with whom he was involved run an escort service out of Frank’s Capitol Hill home. I’ll take the Marine over that.

    It’s worth noting that Moulton initially ran for Congress as an Independent, apparently. He failed and then ran again as a Democrat. (It is Massachusetts). Also, the Other-Than-Boston-Herald papers are complaining about how the Progressive wing of their party hates him. The implication being that he’s a centrist (by New England standards). I don’t have a strong opinion, I do think he is crafty and playing a long game. What I’ve seen so far suggests that he wants to take over the Democrats and make them more like Mike Bloomberg (sans the big gulp obsessions). I don’t know if this is true, but if true, it would be a welcome shift toward less insanity in the Democrat party. On the other hand he could be a John Kerry, and hiding his wokeness. Regardless, worth watching and one to beware of.

    Regardless, I’m glad that they both went to Kabul. They were right to, and given that they are both combat veterans, they know how to take care of themselves. They seemed to take all reasonable steps to lessen the footprint of their trip. Besides there is no way the Pentagon can say, ‘get out of our way we know what we’re doing.” They’re also young enough to learn something…

    He voted for impeachment.  That’s a redline for me.

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    BDB (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    As I indicated above, I’m no fan of Moulton. Still, when one is from MA, one does tend to look for bright spots in Democrats. At least Moulton served as a Marine. My former congressperson, Mr. Barney Frank, is best known for having a young man with whom he was involved run an escort service out of Frank’s Capitol Hill home. I’ll take the Marine over that.

    It’s worth noting that Moulton initially ran for Congress as an Independent, apparently. He failed and then ran again as a Democrat. (It is Massachusetts). Also, the Other-Than-Boston-Herald papers are complaining about how the Progressive wing of their party hates him. The implication being that he’s a centrist (by New England standards). I don’t have a strong opinion, I do think he is crafty and playing a long game. What I’ve seen so far suggests that he wants to take over the Democrats and make them more like Mike Bloomberg (sans the big gulp obsessions). I don’t know if this is true, but if true, it would be a welcome shift toward less insanity in the Democrat party. On the other hand he could be a John Kerry, and hiding his wokeness. Regardless, worth watching and one to beware of.

    Regardless, I’m glad that they both went to Kabul. They were right to, and given that they are both combat veterans, they know how to take care of themselves. They seemed to take all reasonable steps to lessen the footprint of their trip. Besides there is no way the Pentagon can say, ‘get out of our way we know what we’re doing.” They’re also young enough to learn something…

    He voted for impeachment. That’s a redline for me.

    A real one, not an Obama or Biden one.

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