No Quarter

 

Sorry, you Biden-puffing Democrat piece of work.  I don’t care if you ran through Hell and put out the fires with a shovel.

Rep. Seth Moulton (MA), an Iraq War veteran and progressive Democrat, has refused to apologize to critics — including Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) — for his decision to take an unauthorized trip to Kabul to witness the Biden administration’s Afghanistan withdrawal operations firsthand — and he continued to blast the Biden administration in a tell-all interview with New York Magazine.

I don’t know anything about this can o’ paint — never heard of him.  And despite some good deeds done recently, and at personal risk, he can just sit right in the benches on his side of, you know, the thing.

I have no room in my heart for Biden-voting Republicans, no matter what excuse, so this Democrat is not getting any grace from me.  Rats from a sinking ship, all.  And if he has truly woken to the horror of his party — too late.  Ride that ticket to the grave, loser.

A Republican joined him on the trip — I never heard of him either, but I presume he’s okay.  Here’s hoping he didn’t also vote for Biden. [EDIT: Actually he did vote to impeach Trump, so he can eat off the floor with Moulton.  No wonder they’re friends.]

Moulton said that he and another veteran in Congress, Rep. Peter Meijer (R-MI), knew they would be criticized for the trip, and tried “to be as efficient as possible at finding the truth and saving a few lives.” The pair flew commercial to the United Arab Emirates, where they used connections to get on board a C-17 bound for Kabul, taking seats that would have been empty otherwise. He added that the trip was designed to create minimal interference in the mission and that he and Meijer felt forced to use military contacts when repeated requests to take an official trip were denied.

I’m glad they both went, but one of these things is not like the other.  I have no room in my heart for any of these Democrat deep-state cowards.  If you got in the musty bed with the party of Biden — stay there and rot.


Alright, I looked up Moulton.  Harvard BA in Physics (do they not have a BS program?), four tours in Iraq, USMC Captain (O-3).  All sound fantastic.  Then why the deep-state socialism?  The disconnect is between his service and his politics, not something on this side.

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  1. JustmeinAZ Member
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    BDB: I have no room in my heart for any of these Democrat deep-state cowards.  If you got in the musty bed with the party of Biden — stay there and rot.

    I with you. And that goes for any so-called R who voted for Biden.

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  2. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Moulton is part of the “march through institutions.”  So is naval reserve officer “not a patriot” Pete Buttigieg.  

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  3. Percival Thatcher
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    @Percival

    Moulton and Peter “Impeachment” Meijer, scuttling away from Paste-Eating Joe and his clown posse cabinet.

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  4. Hoyacon Member
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    This guy had a brief run at the Presidency in ‘ 20, and will likely be back.  I am baffled how someone who served his country for several years views the Democrats as a vehicle for patriotism.  Even if he is from Massachusetts.

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  5. BDB Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):
    Peter “Impeachment” Meijer,

    Ah!  Took me a moment.  Will update the post.

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  6. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Meijer Meijer Meijer Meijer.

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  7. Ansonia Member
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    I think we should be grateful to both of them for making the trip.

    Question: Wasn’t Whittaker Chambers once a Communist ? My point is that Chambers didn’t always see what he gradually came to see. There’s such a thing as a person of integrity fighting on the wrong side.

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  8. Percival Thatcher
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    Ansonia (View Comment):

    I think we should be grateful to both of them for making the trip.

    Question: Wasn’t Whittaker Chambers once a Communist ? My point is that Chambers didn’t always see what he gradually came to see. There’s such a thing as a person of integrity fighting on the wrong side.

    If they are truly on the road to Damascus then that’s wonderful, but even Ananias was skeptical at first.

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  9. BDB Coolidge
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    Ansonia (View Comment):
    There’s such a thing as a person of integrity fighting on the wrong side.

    Yes, and those are called enemies.  We didnt’t hate every Nazi personally, any more than every Taliban is necessarily a bad person — many of them were simple Mujahideen who only wanted to be free of the Soviet yoke.

    It is what it is.  I reject the point of your larger post (selectively clipped here for the main point I wanted to address.  Both of these men are fighting on the wrong side.

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  10. MarciN Member
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    I like Moulton very much. His choice of a Republican to go with him is interesting. It’s possible that what they may have in common is that neither likes the person at the top their respective tickets. I don’t like the Republican that went with him, but I do respect Moulton.

    We Republicans don’t currently have the numbers in the House to do too much about Biden. We’re eight votes short. We need some help. At this point, any Democrat who breaks ranks and speaks up for the military efforts that have been and are being made in Afghanistan has earned my respect.

    I didn’t know much about him until he made this trip, but I like his outspokenness since he has been back. I appreciate his clear-mindedness about right and wrong.

    I also would not write off his service in Iraq. He is not John Kerry who went to Vietnam with his camera. Moulton’s military service is respected in Massachusetts, which many would be surprised to learn is a very military-friendly state. :-)

    But that said, he comes from my state, so I was pleased that there’s intelligent life in our wholly Democratic legislative delegation. And I am biased to think favorably of his trip and his followup speeches.

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  11. Hoyacon Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I like Moulton very much. His choice of a Republican to go with him is interesting. It’s possible that what they may have in common is that neither likes the person at the top their respective tickets. I don’t like the Republican that went with him, but I do respect Moulton.

    We Republicans don’t currently have the numbers in the House to do too much about Biden. We’re eight votes short. We need some help. At this point, any Democrat who breaks ranks and speaks up for the military efforts that have been and are being made in Afghanistan has earned my respect.

    I didn’t know much about him until he made this trip, but I like his outspokenness since he has been back. I appreciate his clear-mindedness about right and wrong.

    I also would not write off his service in Iraq. He is not John Kerry who went to Vietnam with his camera. Moulton’s military service is respected in Massachusetts, which many would be surprised to learn is a very military-friendly state. :-)

    But that said, he comes from my state, so I was pleased that there’s intelligent life in our wholly Democratic legislative delegation. And I am biased to think favorably of his trip and his followup speeches.

    For me, Moulton’s policy preferences are too much on the left. Pro-abortion, anti 2nd Amendment, Trump-hater.  As Democrats go, he may be OK in some respects, but in others, no thanks.

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  12. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    I like Moulton very much. His choice of a Republican to go with him is interesting. It’s possible that what they may have in common is that neither likes the person at the top their respective tickets. I don’t like the Republican that went with him, but I do respect Moulton.

    We Republicans don’t currently have the numbers in the House to do too much about Biden. We’re eight votes short. We need some help. At this point, any Democrat who breaks ranks and speaks up for the military efforts that have been and are being made in Afghanistan has earned my respect.

    I didn’t know much about him until he made this trip, but I like his outspokenness since he has been back. I appreciate his clear-mindedness about right and wrong.

    I also would not write off his service in Iraq. He is not John Kerry who went to Vietnam with his camera. Moulton’s military service is respected in Massachusetts, which many would be surprised to learn is a very military-friendly state. :-)

    But that said, he comes from my state, so I was pleased that there’s intelligent life in our wholly Democratic legislative delegation. And I am biased to think favorably of his trip and his followup speeches.

    For me, Moulton’s policy preferences are too much on the left. Pro-abortion, anti 2nd Amendment, Trump-hater. As Democrats go, he may be OK in some respects, but in others, no thanks.

    Hoyacon is on target.

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  13. Ed G. Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    This guy had a brief run at the Presidency in ‘ 20, and will likely be back. I am baffled how someone who served his country for several years views the Democrats as a vehicle for patriotism. Even if he is from Massachusetts.

    Until the really crazy people took over the party one could be a hereditary or inertia democrat, a union democrat, a bleeding heart democrat, a corrupt democrat, or simply an opportunist joining whichever party is most likely to result in a spot at the trough. Conservatives have been on to this taxonomy and have seen the increasing slide to crazy leftism for decades (a lot of good that has done us!) but too many democrats are still not quite aware of the changes. Seriously, much has changed on the Dem side in the last 15-20 years.

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  14. BDB Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Some points:

    At this point, any Democrat who breaks ranks and speaks up for the military efforts that have been and are being made in Afghanistan has earned my respect.

    Nothing about the Biden administration is a surprise to anybody with two brain cells to rub together.  Anybody somehow unable to discern the anti-American Democrat project’s goals is unworthy of office or respect.

    I respect taking the trip and speaking up.  Yet, it’s too little too late, and that’s not leadership.  Good on him in the short term.


    Gotta go.  May write more later.

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  15. Skyler Coolidge
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    Anyone who votes democrat in today’s politically polarized society may have been purely ignorant, but after this past week there is no longer any excuse, if there ever was. 

    The democrats have been taken over by the communists.  

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  16. BDB Coolidge
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Anyone who votes democrat in today’s politically polarized society may have been purely ignorant, but after this past week there is no longer any excuse, if there ever was.

    The democrats have been taken over by the communists.

    Had no patience with this crap since 2012.

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  17. James Lileks Contributor
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    Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it. 

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  18. BDB Coolidge
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.

    Sure, if A) he’s the first one off the bus full of cop-killing inmates that just ran you off the road, and B) what he and his fellows have planned for you and your family is worse than being strapped into the car.

    It is not as though Moulton and Meijer’s political orientation has nothing to do with Biden’s well-thought-out scheme in Afghanistan, unlike your remarkably unrelated analog.  These are Biden men.

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  19. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.

    A few years ago, a politically mixed group wandered onto a similar topic. We discussed who would be most likely to help a stranded motorist, a Hilary voter or a Trump voter. It was nearly unanimous that a Trump supporter was more likely to provide assistance.  

    BTW, in the oath of office of our township fire department (the folks most likely to have the Jaws of Life) it requires rendering aid, etc., without regard of someone’s race, gender, religious creed, status, or political affiliation. 

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  20. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Ansonia (View Comment):

    I think we should be grateful to both of them for making the trip.

    Question: Wasn’t Whittaker Chambers once a Communist ? My point is that Chambers didn’t always see what he gradually came to see. There’s such a thing as a person of integrity fighting on the wrong side.

    If they are truly on the road to Damascus then that’s wonderful, but even Ananias was skeptical at first.

    Would that make Meijer Moulton’s Barnabas? Hmmm

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  21. Zafar Member
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    BDB: The pair flew commercial to the United Arab Emirates, where they used connections to get on board a C-17 bound for Kabul, taking seats that would have been empty otherwise.

    But when they left Kabul they definitely took seats that would have been used by someone else. Two people were left behind in Kabul because of their trip that would have otherwise made it out. 

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  22. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.

    That’s why smart drivers always keep a l’il spit in reserve in their left jowl.  Y’know.  Just in case.

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  23. Flicker Coolidge
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.

    You would really spit in the face of a rescuer?

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  24. Skyler Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    BDB: The pair flew commercial to the United Arab Emirates, where they used connections to get on board a C-17 bound for Kabul, taking seats that would have been empty otherwise.

    But when they left Kabul they definitely took seats that would have been used by someone else. Two people were left behind in Kabul because of their trip that would have otherwise made it out.

    Yes, but perhaps they will help us know the truth.  Not all costs are prohibitive.

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  25. Randy Webster Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I like Moulton very much. His choice of a Republican to go with him is interesting. It’s possible that what they may have in common is that neither likes the person at the top their respective tickets. I don’t like the Republican that went with him, but I do respect Moulton.

    We Republicans don’t currently have the numbers in the House to do too much about Biden. We’re eight votes short. We need some help. At this point, any Democrat who breaks ranks and speaks up for the military efforts that have been and are being made in Afghanistan has earned my respect.

    I didn’t know much about him until he made this trip, but I like his outspokenness since he has been back. I appreciate his clear-mindedness about right and wrong.

    I also would not write off his service in Iraq. He is not John Kerry who went to Vietnam with his camera. Moulton’s military service is respected in Massachusetts, which many would be surprised to learn is a very military-friendly state. :-)

    But that said, he comes from my state, so I was pleased that there’s intelligent life in our wholly Democratic legislative delegation. And I am biased to think favorably of his trip and his followup speeches.

    I suppose that if you live in Massachusetts you have to take what you can get.

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  26. Raxxalan Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    BDB: The pair flew commercial to the United Arab Emirates, where they used connections to get on board a C-17 bound for Kabul, taking seats that would have been empty otherwise.

    But when they left Kabul they definitely took seats that would have been used by someone else. Two people were left behind in Kabul because of their trip that would have otherwise made it out.

    Yes, but perhaps they will help us know the truth. Not all costs are prohibitive.

    Actually given the information and the timing it is incredibly unlikely they took any seats.  They intentionally waited for an empty crew seat.  In extremis I am sure that could be used for an evacuee; however, at that point most flights were leaving half or more empty.  This entire thing has been mismanaged from the start and from the top.  The real tragedy is no one lost a seat because of this.

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  27. J Climacus Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    I like Moulton very much. His choice of a Republican to go with him is interesting. It’s possible that what they may have in common is that neither likes the person at the top their respective tickets. I don’t like the Republican that went with him, but I do respect Moulton.

    We Republicans don’t currently have the numbers in the House to do too much about Biden. We’re eight votes short. We need some help. At this point, any Democrat who breaks ranks and speaks up for the military efforts that have been and are being made in Afghanistan has earned my respect.

    I didn’t know much about him until he made this trip, but I like his outspokenness since he has been back. I appreciate his clear-mindedness about right and wrong.

    I also would not write off his service in Iraq. He is not John Kerry who went to Vietnam with his camera. Moulton’s military service is respected in Massachusetts, which many would be surprised to learn is a very military-friendly state. :-)

    But that said, he comes from my state, so I was pleased that there’s intelligent life in our wholly Democratic legislative delegation. And I am biased to think favorably of his trip and his followup speeches.

    I suppose that if you live in Massachusetts you have to take what you can get.

    Moulton is my representative. He replaced the execrable John Tierney, and is about as good as you can hope for in this district (although we did briefly elect a Republican in the 1990s).

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  28. Zafar Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):
    Yes, but perhaps they will help us know the truth.  Not all costs are prohibitive.

    Perhaps the truth about the airport, because they surely didn’t go into the city. It’s unclear what they uncovered that they couldn’t have learned by just watching PBS. 

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  29. BDB Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    BDB: The pair flew commercial to the United Arab Emirates, where they used connections to get on board a C-17 bound for Kabul, taking seats that would have been empty otherwise.

    But when they left Kabul they definitely took seats that would have been used by someone else. Two people were left behind in Kabul because of their trip that would have otherwise made it out.

    Hmm.  Perhaps.  I can imagine places that you would allow a Congresscritter to sit that you wouldn’t allow unknown evacuees to sit.  I got to sit in a cockpit jump seat in a German C-160 “Transall” Kabul to Mazar, and for the amazing “tactical” or whatever landing.  C-17 likely has similar (I only know the cargo-pax end of that one).

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  30. BDB Coolidge
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Should ever I roll my car with my family inside, I’ve made a vow to ask the guy who shows up with the jaws of life who he voted for, so I can spit in his face if the situation requires it.

    Seen on another thread, apropos:

    Acook (View Comment):

    I saw someone on Twitter say, in response to Psaki bragging about the airlift, that you don’t get to sink the ship and then brag about the lifeboats.

     

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