Whatever Happened to the Afghan Girl?

 
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  1. Randy Webster Member
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    I had her earlier picture posted on a bulletin board for years because of those eyes.  People sometimes asked me why, but those eyes are arresting.

    I did see a later picture of her, not the one you’ve posted, but at about the same age.

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  2. She Reagan
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I had her earlier picture posted on a bulletin board for years because of those eyes. People sometimes asked me why, but those eyes are arresting.

    I did see a later picture of her, not the one you’ve posted, but at about the same age.

    Yes.  To those of us of a “certain age” (apologies), she was something of an icon.

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  3. Randy Webster Member
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    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I had her earlier picture posted on a bulletin board for years because of those eyes. People sometimes asked me why, but those eyes are arresting.

    I did see a later picture of her, not the one you’ve posted, but at about the same age.

    Yes. To those of us of a “certain age” (apologies), she was something of an icon.

    Lol.  I’m not of a certain age; I’m 70.

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  4. She Reagan
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I had her earlier picture posted on a bulletin board for years because of those eyes. People sometimes asked me why, but those eyes are arresting.

    I did see a later picture of her, not the one you’ve posted, but at about the same age.

    Yes. To those of us of a “certain age” (apologies), she was something of an icon.

    Lol. I’m not of a certain age; I’m 70.

    Yeah.  You’ve mentioned that before.  I’ll be 67 next month.

    See?  SEE?

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  5. Zafar Member
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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37923826

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  6. Randy Webster Member
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    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I had her earlier picture posted on a bulletin board for years because of those eyes. People sometimes asked me why, but those eyes are arresting.

    I did see a later picture of her, not the one you’ve posted, but at about the same age.

    Yes. To those of us of a “certain age” (apologies), she was something of an icon.

    Lol. I’m not of a certain age; I’m 70.

    Yeah. You’ve mentioned that before. I’ll be 67 next month.

    See? SEE?

    A spring chicken.

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  7. Randy Webster Member
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    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I had her earlier picture posted on a bulletin board for years because of those eyes. People sometimes asked me why, but those eyes are arresting.

    I did see a later picture of her, not the one you’ve posted, but at about the same age.

    Yes. To those of us of a “certain age” (apologies), she was something of an icon.

    Lol. I’m not of a certain age; I’m 70.

    Yeah. You’ve mentioned that before. I’ll be 67 next month.

    See? SEE?

    My wife and I are making plans to go up north next year.  We’ve not seen Niagara or New England.  I’d like to see She.  Is that possible?

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  8. She Reagan
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I had her earlier picture posted on a bulletin board for years because of those eyes. People sometimes asked me why, but those eyes are arresting.

    I did see a later picture of her, not the one you’ve posted, but at about the same age.

    Yes. To those of us of a “certain age” (apologies), she was something of an icon.

    Lol. I’m not of a certain age; I’m 70.

    Yeah. You’ve mentioned that before. I’ll be 67 next month.

    See? SEE?

    My wife and I are making plans to go up north next year. We’ve not seen Niagara or New England. I’d like to see She. Is that possible?

    Sure.  That would be great.  I’m in SW PA, about 40 miles SW of Pittsburgh, right on the way to Erie/Niagara.   When the time approaches, PM me, and we’ll figure it out.  Hooray!

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  9. She Reagan
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37923826

    Yeah. That’s mentioned in one of the links on my post.  At some point she faked an ID.  Maybe Pakistan gave her a break too.

    I still hope she’s OK.

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  10. Jim McConnell Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37923826

    Thank you, @zafar, for posting the link. Such a sad story, but probably typical of so many people in that part of the world.

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  11. Clavius Thatcher
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    I remember when I cherished my collection of National Geographics for their photography, and I remember the original cover.

    And I guess I’m the youngster in age claims since I am 61.

    Damn, I miss what National Geographic was.

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  12. The Reticulator Member
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    Clavius (View Comment):

    I remember when I cherished my collection of National Geographics for their photography, and I remember the original cover.

    And I guess I’m the youngster in age claims since I am 61.

    Damn, I miss what National Geographic was.

     Except that, far too often, they kept the roads out of their photos.

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  13. Clavius Thatcher
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Clavius (View Comment):

    I remember when I cherished my collection of National Geographics for their photography, and I remember the original cover.

    And I guess I’m the youngster in age claims since I am 61.

    Damn, I miss what National Geographic was.

    Except that, far too often, they kept the roads out of their photos.

    I’m not sure what you mean.  All I remember are memorable photographs and factual commentary.  Or at least not obviously biased commentary.

    I also remember being told that they took about 20,000 photographs per assignment, although writing that, 2,000 seems more likely.

    In any case, the lesson is, if you want exceptional photographs, take many of your subject.

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  14. The Reticulator Member
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    Clavius (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Clavius (View Comment):

    I remember when I cherished my collection of National Geographics for their photography, and I remember the original cover.

    And I guess I’m the youngster in age claims since I am 61.

    Damn, I miss what National Geographic was.

    Except that, far too often, they kept the roads out of their photos.

    I’m not sure what you mean. All I remember are memorial photographs and factual commentary. Or at least not obviously biased commentary.

    I also remember being told that they took about 20,000 photographs per assignment, although writing that 2,000 seems more likely.

    In any case, the lesson is, if you want exceptional photographs, take many of your subject.

    It’s been going woke for a long time, but I don’t remember just when I first noticed.

    As for the photography, they may show beautiful shots of people in a village of “primitive” architecture in remote Africa, but not of how that village connects, physically, to its neighborhood and the rest of the world. (I like photos of roads and roadsides.)  They also keep utility lines out of their photos, which means they go to a lot of work, but that doesn’t bother me so much. It’s even to be commended, in a way.  But not showing us the local roadsides? Blech.

    It may be different now; I haven’t looked at an issue in quite a while.  

     

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  15. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37923826

    So the west thinks that the million-plus Afghan “refugees” who will swarm their nations are going to be the pretty green-eyed ones (Get her a modeling contract! Cover of Vogue!), not the 99 percent who favor making sharia the official law of their country.  Now, that Pew report is from 2013, but since all these “refugees” have seen the collapse by the woke west it might stand to reason that they might want a little order imposed.  Certainly more Ilan Omar and Rashida Tlaib types in government.  Diversity is our strength…or our downfall.

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  16. She Reagan
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    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):
    So the west thinks that the million-plus Afghan “refugees” who will swarm their nations are going to be the pretty green-eyed ones … not the 99 percent who favor making sharia the official law of their country.

    I think much of [America] is fearful that the swarms trying to get out of Afghanistan are exactly those who favor making Sharia the official law of their [adopted] country, and that the pell-mell flight of many of them may not be for honorable or altruistic motives. 

    I’m not as reflexively averse as are some, to the sight of “military-age males” claiming to be friends of the US and trying to leave.  After all, I suspect that almost all translation and other native support to the US in Afghanistan actually came from military-age males.* But I’d certainly like to have seen those folks evacuated in an orderly manner while we still knew who they were, rather than having to triage them out from a screaming rabble.

    *Saw a statistic the other day that about 65% of the population of Afghanistan is under the age of 25.  That means that 2/3 of the population was 4-years old or younger, or just not born, on September 11, 2001.  That’s a sobering thought.

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  17. Zafar Member
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    She (View Comment):
    I think much of [America] is fearful that the swarms trying to get out of Afghanistan are exactly those who favor making Sharia the official law of their [adopted] country

    Why would that make them leave? Sharia is likely to be the law of Afghanistan shortly.

    Anyway, an interview of the historian and journalist William Dalrymple (one of yours but part of the time also ours) on the subject:

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  18. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    She (View Comment):
    I think much of [America] is fearful that the swarms trying to get out of Afghanistan are exactly those who favor making Sharia the official law of their [adopted] country, and that the pell-mell flight of many of them may not be for honorable or altruistic motives. 

    Lots of at the very least anecdotal evidence that crime in Germany is driven by “migrants.”  Here’s a recent one,

    Berlin police said on Friday they have arrested two Afghan men in their 20s on suspicion of killing their older sister because her lifestyle didn’t live up to their “moral values.”

    The brothers probably thought that their motives were honorable.

     

     

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  19. GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Malpropisms Reagan
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    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I had her earlier picture posted on a bulletin board for years because of those eyes. People sometimes asked me why, but those eyes are arresting.

    I did see a later picture of her, not the one you’ve posted, but at about the same age.

    Yes. To those of us of a “certain age” (apologies), she was something of an icon.

    Lol. I’m not of a certain age; I’m 70.

    Yeah. You’ve mentioned that before. I’ll be 67 next month.

    See? SEE?

    My wife and I are making plans to go up north next year. We’ve not seen Niagara or New England. I’d like to see She. Is that possible?

    Sure. That would be great. I’m in SW PA, about 40 miles SW of Pittsburgh, right on the way to Erie/Niagara. When the time approaches, PM me, and we’ll figure it out. Hooray!

    You must be partial to sheep and inquisitive, and possibly stowaway cats.

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  20. She Reagan
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    Zafar (View Comment):
    Why would that make them leave? Sharia is likely to be the law of Afghanistan shortly.

    There seem to be an awful lot of people in the world who “flee” from things only to insist on recreating the same thing somewhere else.  It’s not always an international problem, as can be seen in those who flee in droves from blue states to red states, and who then insist on turning their new locale into an over-regulated, left-wing dump just like the one they left.  Prompting the increasingly popular bumper sticker in some areas:  “To those who’ve moved here from California–Remember you’re a refugee, not a missionary.”

    When the definition of “refugee” expands to include all those who find their lives their native country limiting or difficult in any way, and requires all such people to be admitted to a Western democracy so they can have “better” lives, then perhaps it’s not surprising that they bring with them what Dad would call the ‘soil-ball’ of their own culture and background, and nurture it, often at the expense of their adopted country whose own culture they have no intention of blending into.

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  21. She Reagan
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    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Ma… (View Comment):

     

    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I had her earlier picture posted on a bulletin board for years because of those eyes. People sometimes asked me why, but those eyes are arresting.

    I did see a later picture of her, not the one you’ve posted, but at about the same age.

    Yes. To those of us of a “certain age” (apologies), she was something of an icon.

    Lol. I’m not of a certain age; I’m 70.

    Yeah. You’ve mentioned that before. I’ll be 67 next month.

    See? SEE?

    My wife and I are making plans to go up north next year. We’ve not seen Niagara or New England. I’d like to see She. Is that possible?

    Sure. That would be great. I’m in SW PA, about 40 miles SW of Pittsburgh, right on the way to Erie/Niagara. When the time approaches, PM me, and we’ll figure it out. Hooray!

    You must be partial to sheep and inquisitive, and possibly stowaway cats.

    LOL.  Cat. Thief. 

    PS: Psymon psends his love.

     

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  22. Flicker Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):
    Why would that make them leave? Sharia is likely to be the law of Afghanistan shortly.

    Ilhan Omar, a refugee from Somalia to Kenya, left Kenya to come to the US, and she’s set on destroying what part of it she can.   You are making an argument based on rationality to deny irrational behavior.

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  23. She Reagan
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Clavius (View Comment):

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    Clavius (View Comment):

    I remember when I cherished my collection of National Geographics for their photography, and I remember the original cover.

    And I guess I’m the youngster in age claims since I am 61.

    Damn, I miss what National Geographic was.

    Except that, far too often, they kept the roads out of their photos.

    I’m not sure what you mean. All I remember are memorial photographs and factual commentary. Or at least not obviously biased commentary.

    It’s been going woke for a long time, but I don’t remember just when I first noticed.

    As for the photography, they may show beautiful shots of people in a village of “primitive” architecture in remote Africa, but not of how that village connects, physically, to its neighborhood and the rest of the world. (I like photos of roads and roadsides.) They also keep utility lines out of their photos, which means they go to a lot of work, but that doesn’t bother me so much. It’s even to be commended, in a way. But not showing us the local roadsides? Blech.

    It may be different now; I haven’t looked at an issue in quite a while.

    Yes, they sometimes left out the less attractive aspects of village and national–to coin a word–“infrastructure,” and so perhaps they glossed over some of the challenges of those primitive cultures.  But I think they did a tremendous service in showing a lot of people worlds they’d never otherwise see, or even be able to imagine, decades before such things, with the advent of instant electronic communications, became even remotely possible.  The birds of Costa Rica.  The top of Everest. The “neck ring” women of Burma. Masai warriors.  Pygmies. Reindeer.  Laplanders. The Mongolian steppes. The secret lives of insects.

    And there was the time I opened an issue, looked at a photo of the author, thought “Hello, I know that face,” to discover that one of Dad’s fellow Colonial Service officers from Nigeria had travelled from Nigeria to Libya along an ancient camel caravan road together with some Touregs and a couple dozen dromedaries (the expedition was funded by NG).  He’s since made the preservation of such routes and the welfare of the wild camels his life’s work.

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  24. Manny Member
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    I used to love National Geographic too!  I used to receive it monthly until they became global warming idiots. I still have all my issues, which must be twenty years worth or more, stashed in the basement somewhere. 

    I was wondering about that iconic woman too. I only remembered she went to Pakistan. I did not know she was back in Afghanistan and was given a home. Thanks for that  

     

    Gee, She, your writing here was not just good, it was superb  You should be writing for a top magazine, if they exist any more  

     

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  25. Randy Webster Member
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    I used to go to the library in the 50’s and sit for hours looking at the WWII issues.

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  26. Manny Member
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    Clavius (View Comment):

    I remember when I cherished my collection of National Geographics for their photography, and I remember the original cover.

    And I guess I’m the youngster in age claims since I am 61.

    Damn, I miss what National Geographic was.

    Me too. I’m 59. 

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  27. Percival Thatcher
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    Manny (View Comment):

    Clavius (View Comment):

    I remember when I cherished my collection of National Geographics for their photography, and I remember the original cover.

    And I guess I’m the youngster in age claims since I am 61.

    Damn, I miss what National Geographic was.

    Me too. I’m 59.

    Me too. I canceled my subscription.

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  28. The Reticulator Member
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    She (View Comment):
    Yes, they sometimes left out the less attractive aspects of village and national–to coin a word–“infrastructure,” and so perhaps they glossed over some of the challenges of those primitive cultures.  But I think they did a tremendous service in showing a lot of people worlds they’d never otherwise see, or even be able to imagine, decades before such things, with the advent of instant electronic communications, became even remotely possible.  The birds of Costa Rica.  The top of Everest. The “neck ring” women of Burma. Masai warriors.  Pygmies. Reindeer.  Laplanders. The Mongolian steppes. The secret lives of insects.

    Doing that kind of photography decades ago did indeed show us new places and people. But in more recent times it could have done more.  

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