What Portland Has Become

 

According to Fox News, it seems that they stood by and let Antifa violently break up a Christian outdoor worship event on the waterfront and the police did nothing. Before they turned their thuggish attention to the “Proud Boys” who came later, the Antifa goons…

are seen spraying red and yellow gas at the group of worshippers, as other Antifa members steal sound equipment, lawn chairs and wagons left across the lawn by families who had come to listen to the pastor speak.

And again, while this was happening, the police stood by and did not intervene.  Antifa threw projectiles at children and pepper-sprayed a pastor. In their coverage of the incident, Fox News mentions that brave journalist Andy Ngo has documented this disgusting display of cowardice in the face of violence toward innocent civilians.

Welcome to beautiful Portland.  The city initiated an ad campaign to draw tourists to the Rose City.  Why am I thinking that the campaign is doomed to fail?

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  1. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Regardless of what has already transpired, I don’t know how the cops can live with themselves. Children hurt, no less.

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  2. Captain French Moderator
    Captain French
    @AlFrench

    The Oregonian had an article up this morning headlined as a Proud Boy – Antifa clash. I didn’t open and read it. After reading your post and the Fox article, I decided to se what their take was. Gone. The article has disappeared. Very curious.

    And, yes, it is awful. But don’t blame the street cop. Someone higher up the food chain makes those decisions. And remember that the entire Rapid Response Team resigned.

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  3. RushBabe49 Thatcher
    RushBabe49
    @RushBabe49

    So the new Portland police motto is “I vas chust following orders”?  Would the head of the police union go along with an officer’s removal from the force, for the crime of intervening in a bold attack on innocent women and children?  Are Portland officers no longer human beings?  Is keeping their job now more important than protecting civilians from unprovoked attack?  If so, they are more depraved than their overseers.

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  4. Clifford A. Brown Member
    Clifford A. Brown
    @CliffordBrown

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    So the new Portland police motto is “I vas chust following orders”? Would the head of the police union go along with an officer’s removal from the force, for the crime of intervening in a bold attack on innocent women and children? Are Portland officers no longer human beings? Is keeping their job now more important than protecting civilians from unprovoked attack? If so, they are more depraved than their overseers.

    Exactly. 

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  5. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!)
    @DonG

    Portland deserves what it gets–good and hard.   The people chose this with their votes.   Shame be upon them.

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  6. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    Pitiful.  How can an officer just stand by and let it happen?  I don’t care if he’s worried about losing his job because of stand-down orders.  He’s got to have some basic level of humanity deep down inside . . .

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  7. Rodin Member
    Rodin
    @Rodin

    Dereliction of duty.

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  8. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    When are Portland and Seattle going to vote out their mayors and city council?

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  9. Doug Watt Member
    Doug Watt
    @DougWatt

    Well when there is only one officer that is able to respond I don’t see why he should. Perhaps back-up will arrive in time to save his life perhaps not. Perhaps he’ll survive, perhaps he’ll have to shoot someone. Perhaps the Multnomah County Soros prosecutor will have a defense attorney investigate the officer, he’s done it before.

    If anyone would like to assist him against the mob then ask for a pager. I’m sure he would welcome the help. Don’t be misled by the media, the article was intended to incite anger, and heap scorn on the PPB. It was also intended to heap scorn on the victims of Antifa.

    There are more officers planning to leave the PPB and you might as well leave while you’re still alive, and without permanent injuries.

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  10. Doug Watt Member
    Doug Watt
    @DougWatt

    The PPB cannot find officers to volunteer for the Gun Violence Reduction Team, a group of officers that search for and concentrate on felons that commit gun crimes. A group that was disbanded several months ago. Why won’t they volunteer? They won’t volunteer because there is a good chance they may have to shoot an armed felon that will resist arrest. The Street Crimes Unit, plain clothes officers that operated in high crime areas no longer exists. The Rapid Response Team a highly trained group of officers that specialized in riot control. So highly trained that police officers from other cities were sent to train with the RRT.

    This is no accident, it is intended. The constant hammering of police officers across the United States, especially from the Feds is an attempt to politicize, and federalize policing. Antifa is the paramilitary wing of the Progressive movement, and it operates with impunity, and that is no accident.

    Mock the Thin Blue Line all you like, and that comes from both the Left, and some useful idiots on the Right, as well as from some Libertarians. It’s all rainbows and unicorns.

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  11. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
    GlennAmurgis
    @GlennAmurgis

    Same thing that happened to

    LA

    San Francisco

    Minneapolis 

     

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  12. Roderic Coolidge
    Roderic
    @rhfabian

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    When are Portland and Seattle going to vote out their mayors and city council?

    Most Portland citizens aren’t affected by these events, and it does not influence their politics.  They’re still wedded to their leftist ideology. As far as they are concerned Antifa is fighting the good fight against the fascists, and the police still need defunding.

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  13. Raxxalan Member
    Raxxalan
    @Raxxalan

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Same thing that happened to

    LA

    San Francisco

    Minneapolis

     

    And yet it is super important to disarm citizens because only elected democrats should have protection from violence.  The police should only arrest the right kind of people and the wrong kind of people deserve getting their heads cracked in. 

    I really wish the progressives would look in the mirror some times and see what they have become.  

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  14. Mountie Coolidge
    Mountie
    @Mountie

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    When are Portland and Seattle going to vote out their mayors and city council?

    Not for a long time, if ever. In Seattle the “homeless” have reached a significant enough size that they can elect their own representatives to city council. This is not a by product of a few out of control councilmen. This is the intended result of the citizens of Seattle and Portland. They are getting the exact policy that they voted for. 

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  15. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    @DaveSchmidt

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Dereliction of duty.

    Do they still swear officers in?  What is the text of their oath?  

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  16. C. U. Douglas Coolidge
    C. U. Douglas
    @CUDouglas

    BTW, this is from a pastor in a church in Portland:

    Remember, if someone is odious to you, or even if they are nasty to you, it’s okay to be cruel and mean to them, just like Christ told us. Wait, hold on, let me check my notes here …

     

    As for the police, the city has shown that it doesn’t have their back when it comes to doing their job. When they do arrest these Antifa thugs, the DA just releases them and perhaps exposes them to penalties for enforcing the law and protecting public safety. Portland is hurting for officers at this point because, surprise surprise, no one wants the job and experienced officers are retiring in droves.

    And note, the Tweet above is a reflection of a sizable portion of the community in Portland. Plenty Portlanders (and I know quite a few who believe like this) believe the propaganda Antifa releases about themselves. They smear, threaten, and even try to kill Andy Ngo and as you can see they discount anything he posts out of hand (aka, the “Posioning the Well” fallacy).

    In the replies we can glean this information: Antifa doesn’t exist, and it’s good that Antifa attacked these people.

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  17. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    So the new Portland police motto is “I vas chust following orders”? Would the head of the police union go along with an officer’s removal from the force, for the crime of intervening in a bold attack on innocent women and children? Are Portland officers no longer human beings? Is keeping their job now more important than protecting civilians from unprovoked attack? If so, they are more depraved than their overseers.

    Always has been.

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  18. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    Roderic (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    When are Portland and Seattle going to vote out their mayors and city council?

    Most Portland citizens aren’t affected by these events, and it does not influence their politics. They’re still wedded to their leftist ideology. As far as they are concerned Antifa is fighting the good fight against the fascists, and the police still need defunding.

    I am all for defunding the police.  Not because I think it is a good thing but a community should be allowed to do what it wants with its public services.  

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  19. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
    Eugene Kriegsmann
    @EugeneKriegsmann

    I spoke to a friend last evening who is a King County Sheriff’s deputy. He has recently, thankfully, been assigned to the Detective division which means he is now plain clothes. What he told me is that it is a no-win situation for cops. If they act they are accused of brutality. If they don’t, they are derelict in their duty. It sounds like the morale of the various policing outfits around the area is at a low.  I am not sure what it is going to take in order to get the people of Seattle and its surrounding communities to finally say, enough is enough, and demand that their police forces be given appropriate support from elected officials, or that those officials are impeached or voted out of office.

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  20. Jager Coolidge
    Jager
    @Jager

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    I spoke to a friend last evening who is a King County Sheriff’s deputy. He has recently, thankfully, been assigned to the Detective division which means he is now plain clothes. What he told me is that it is a no-win situation for cops. If they act they are accused of brutality. If they don’t, they are derelict in their duty. It sounds like the morale of the various policing outfits around the area is at a low. I am not sure what it is going to take in order to get the people of Seattle and its surrounding communities to finally say, enough is enough, and demand that their police forces be given appropriate support from elected officials, or that those officials are impeached or voted out of office.

    It is simple, this has to follow through to its logical conclusion. 

    Right now there are Police and average people are not significantly and in large numbers affected. Whether through defunding or resignation the police force will be reduced, crime will spike. Lots of people who feel safe now, will be victims or be made to feel unsafe. That is the only point where anything could change. 

    Remember when crime got bad enough even New York elected a Republican to clean up the mess.

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  21. Doug Watt Member
    Doug Watt
    @DougWatt

    The media is all over the map on this story, well not really. The Oregonian is not covering this story, and only one of the major network affiliates has the story on their website. That story focuses on the Antifa versus Proud Boys mixer after the worship service ended. This may change later.

    There is one small newspaper covering the story, and it’s behind a paywall. Most everyone is, like FOX News, relying on this story. There are of course some Twitter videos, but they’re short on non-biased info, and that bias finds it way into the videos.

    The Antifa action has changed from the Helms Deep medieval siege attacks to hit and run tactics. Smaller groups that pick a target, quick engagement, and then a running battle that keeps moving from block to block. This is what happened in this latest incident.

    Antifa and Proud Boys do not apply for permits to use a public park to demonstrate, needless to say they don’t apply for a permit for a street fight. At this point in time it is unknown if the pastor from Canada applied for a permit to use Waterfront Park.

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  22. RushBabe49 Thatcher
    RushBabe49
    @RushBabe49

    Doug, I thoroughly understand the position all police officers are in today, in every big city (even the ones in red states).  They get no respect from their city politicians, and their states pass “police reform” that ties their hands further, like what happened in Washington State.  Police in the Seattle area have already decided not to pursue miscreants, because they are supposed to have “absolutely probable cause” that a crime may have been committed, and they will not put themselves at risk of breaking the new laws. Of course, the state legislators who passed the reform, with the generous assistance of Black Lives Matter, swear up and down that their new laws do not prevent police from doing their jobs.  Yeah, right.

    But there was no excuse for them to stand by and allow women and children to be sprayed with gas and assaulted.  Not responding in any way does not help their cause one bit, and makes the public even less well-disposed toward them.  I wonder what might have happened if one of those women had been armed, and had shot one of the Antifa thugs.  Self-defense?  I think so.

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  23. Captain French Moderator
    Captain French
    @AlFrench

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    The media is all over the map on this story, well not really. The Oregonian is not covering this story, and only one of the major network affiliates has the story on their website. That story focuses on the Antifa versus Proud Boys mixer after the worship service ended. This may change later.

    There is one small newspaper covering the story, and it’s behind a paywall. Most everyone is, like FOX News, relying on this story. There are of course some Twitter videos, but they’re short on non-biased info, and that bias finds it way into the videos.

    The Antifa action has changed from the Helms Deep medieval siege attacks to hit and run tactics. Smaller groups that pick a target, quick engagement, and then a running battle that keeps moving from block to block. This is what happened in this latest incident.

    Antifa and Proud Boys do not apply for permits to use a public park to demonstrate, needless to say they don’t apply for a permit for a street fight. At this point in time it is unknown if the pastor from Canada applied for a permit to use Waterfront Park.

    The Oregonian finally has a story up, but it doesn’t add any information.

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  24. ctlaw Coolidge
    ctlaw
    @ctlaw

    https://www.facebook.com/1359390342/videos/826137151419495/

     

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