David French and the Dialectic

 

The left moves, and has long moved, by dialectic. The activist-academic class introduces a concept or word into the public debate and shoves with all its might, taking its own logic to its flashiest conclusion. This conclusion being nonsense, pushback inevitably follows, prompting the activists to scamper back to their safe, warm mottes. But things don’t snap back to the way they were. No. The terms, ideas, and slogans introduced by the activists stick around. They’re subsumed into the broader culture, their edges rubbed off. They become part of the scaffolding of political debate — the mental furniture of the American mind. It is by this process that figures like David French (who is no longer a conservative) will come, mark my words, to defend transgenderism against the onslaught of transhumanism sometime in the 2040s. It is because of this process that conservatism is all but a myth. Conservatives cannot conserve — not in our current culture, at least.

That David French is no longer a conservative will come as a surprise to nobody. I say this not because of his anti-Trump writings (there are perfectly good reasons to dislike Trump — I voted for him, and I can recognize that), but because David French, like the jolly band at The Bulwark, has shown himself eager to accept the terminology, framing, and general worldview of the cultural left. Just today, he published a piece titled “Structural Racism Isn’t Wokeness, It’s Reality.” French writes:

This argument echoes tenets of the secular right-wing consensus on race—that racism exists only when there is individual malign intent, that remedies for racism should be limited to imposing consequences on individual racists, and that there is no intergenerational obligation to remedy historic injustice (“I’m not responsible for my ancestors’ sins”).

Under this mode of thinking, the concept of “equality under the law”—as mandated by the Constitution and the Civil Rights Act—is both necessary and largely sufficient to address the causes and consequences of centuries of slavery followed by generations of Jim Crow.

Sounds reasonable enough to me, don’t you think? Apparently not:

Enforcing the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause and passing the Civil Rights Act was (and is) necessary to end overt, legal discrimination, but it was hardly sufficient to ameliorate the effects of slavery and Jim Crow. These effects are so embedded in our system that powerful people often perpetuate those structures even when they lack any racist intent at all.

Ah, yes. Systems. Structures. Power (the ultimate aphrodisiac). The irrelevance of intent. All so conservative, no? (On Tuesday, David French will be telling us that sexual harassment is in the eye of the beholder.) French finds biblical justification for his newfound worldview, citing a story in 2 Samuel that suggests an “obligation of repentance and atonement” for Israel’s “former leader’s sins.” He goes on:

Time and again, there are non-racist reasons for wanting to maintain the structures racists created. Thus, you can begin to understand the cultural and political divide. A person who harbors absolutely no racial animus gets angry when they’re told they’re perpetuating systemic racism, or that racism can exist without malign intent. To be told you’re perpetuating racism when, in your heart of hearts, you know you’re making choices based on road safety, your child’s education, or the beauty of your environment can feel deeply offensive.

Can “feel” deeply offensive? No. It is deeply offensive. More:

Regardless of my ideology, the objective is justice. It’s not “conservative” justice or “progressive” justice. It’s simply justice. So if my ideology leads me astray, and the solutions I propose are inadequate to the enormity of the task, it’s my moral obligation to rethink my philosophical frame.

Finally, it is vital to approach the immense challenge of racial justice with an extraordinary amount of humility. Christians should not be so easily triggered by words that sound “progressive” or which they believe might be “inspired by CRT.” A movement that long derided the “snowflakes” on the other side now reacts as if allegedly offensive pastoral word choice is a microaggression all its own.

Ah, yes! Here, French pulls out the left’s favored definition of snowflakery: Refusal to get on the right side of history. For the right, a snowflake is someone who demands that reality be changed to meet his preferences; for the left, a snowflake is someone who declines to accept the left’s changes.

Anyway, this is about much more than word choice. In his piece, French has managed to (a) dispatch of colorblindness as a standard by which to judge laws and actions, (b) promote the notion of collective guilt and (c) the related concept of infinite obligations (more about that later), (d) accept a complete redefinition of the word “racism,” and (e) browbeat conservatives for failing to adopt the left’s favored language and framing.

Way back in the mists of yesterday, the word “racism” had a meaning, or a few closely related meanings, widely accepted by left and right. It could describe a belief in the inherent superiority or inferiority of a given race or a reflexive dislike of a given race or a belief that races ought not to mingle. In any case, it was a word attached to beliefs about something. But by a process of alchemy (and social pressure), the left has transformed the word. Rather than describing a belief about something, it now describes a state of affairs in which statistical inequalities exist between demographic groups. Racism, once an ism like gnosticism, is now an ism like capitalism. It’s been defined down. Now, why? What’s the use of this new understanding of racism? The answer is obvious: to delegitimize the existing political and social order by attaching a morally loaded term to it, and to therefore prime the ground for revolution. Just as one becomes complicit in capitalism by buying and selling, and by supporting politicians who decline to put some other economic system in place, so, too, does one become complicit in “systemic racism” by enjoying the benefits of the status quo, and by failing to support political measures which bring about perfect equality.

For fifty years, the bleeding-hearted have sought to solve America’s racial problems with transfer payments and social programs. David himself admits this much. For fifty years, the bleeding-hearted have failed to solve any of them. In the meantime, the same problems have spilled over into broader American culture. Much of white America is now a rubble heap. Does David French really believe that conceding the language and joining in the collective self-flagellation will do anything to solve these problems? The hard truth is that nobody knows how to solve these problems. Nobody. Does David French really think that the resulting failure to live up to expectations won’t result in a general loss of faith in the existing political system and rising demands for some new one? (This is already happening on right and left, whether French likes it or not.) What will he have gotten for his woke virtue-signaling, exactly? And what sort of “atonement” does French think is appropriate? DEI bureaucracies in schools? Anti-racism training in all businesses? A new Pledge of Allegiance? “Trigger warnings” in the National Archives rotunda or on library websites? Or something spicier, like reparations? What?

Besides, at the heart of French’s argument is a conception of justice that I, a conservative, cannot affirm. I reject the left’s ever-popular contention that I owe everything to everyone, that everything causes everything, that everything is connected to everything else, that racial justice is affordable housing is trans rights is public transportation is animal welfare is Palestinian liberation is abortion. On the contrary, I have obligations to my family, my friends, and my immediate community. But my obligations are not infinite. I’m under no duty to commit myself to “anti-racist” political programs. I’m under no duty to apologize or accept responsibility for acts committed well before my birth by people with no relation to me. If I’m to be a proper Catholic, I should avoid racism (classically understood), but that’s as far as it goes. My real duty is this: to care for my little corner of the world. It’s good enough. It’s all I can do.

Well, that and not talking like the woke.

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  1. Stina Member
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    D.A. Venters (View Comment):
    Seems like French is very concerned about unity in the Christian church, which as racially and ethnically diverse as it is, may be a valid concern. 

    Such BS.

    This guy is far better on this subject than French is.

    And French is only out for himself. You don’t get to whine because we got his number. You like him? Go read him. French is not owed loyalty or even to be taken seriously by anyone. But crappy reasoning deserves to be mocked.

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  2. Bishop Wash Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Let’s be clear. Anytime someone like French (or his evangelical leftist pals) starts singling out “white evangelicals” what they’re really saying is “you’re racist!”

    That’s a charge that must be answered. CRT is absolutely infesting the church right now, and it needs to be beaten back aggressively.

    I have no first-hand experience with this, and it comes as a major surprise. It does not fit with my impression of evangelicals as a pretty conservative group that votes with the right.

    Keep your eye on this vital Twitter account for some really surprising stuff.

    Thanks for posting stuff from there weeks ago. I’m following it now and there’s a lot of bad stuff that gets shown by him.

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  3. Stina Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Let’s be clear. Anytime someone like French (or his evangelical leftist pals) starts singling out “white evangelicals” what they’re really saying is “you’re racist!”

    That’s a charge that must be answered. CRT is absolutely infesting the church right now, and it needs to be beaten back aggressively.

    I have no first-hand experience with this, and it comes as a major surprise. It does not fit with my impression of evangelicals as a pretty conservative group that votes with the right.

    It’s being infiltrated with progressive theology. That’s why there’s been so many high profile Christian figures coming out as non-Christian. Their progressive Christianity can’t comport with scripture but it makes them feel good. So they ditch Christianity.

    There are still warriors out there. French isn’t one of them. I don’t think he’s progressive, but he is legalistic. I don’t know why he is. If it’s a power position, progressive Christianity isn’t out of his reach. Since he’s gone progressive in other ways, why wouldn’t he here as well?

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  4. Stina Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    Would Sowell say that racism was not even one contributing cause? (I honestly don’t know. I figure he knows, but I dont know much, and I dont even know what he knows.)

    Sowell and Baucham would note other marginalized populations are now widely successful and that there is nothing in our government or culture that justifies the abject depression of the black population in America except things that only they can change.

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  5. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    Would Sowell say that racism was not even one contributing cause? (I honestly don’t know. I figure he knows, but I dont know much, and I dont even know what he knows.)

    Sowell and Baucham would note other marginalized populations are now widely successful and that there is nothing in our government or culture that justifies the abject depression of the black population in America except things that only they can change.

    Not exactly. Watch the UK with Sowell I posted. There are government policies with disparate impact on blacks. Sowell gives the example of environmental policies on homebuilding in San Francisco basically emptying the city of blacks in a few short years. Minimum wage also has a bad effect on unskilled, poorly educated blacks (and everyone else in that category). There are things “we” can change and almost all of them would be antithetical to what progressives want to do or have done. 

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  6. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Stina (View Comment):
    I don’t think he’s progressive, but he is legalistic. I don’t know why he is.

    I think it’s White Savior Complex, and I am not at all surprised that French suffers from it.

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  7. Stina Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):
    I don’t think he’s progressive, but he is legalistic. I don’t know why he is.

    I think it’s White Savior Complex, and I am not at all surprised that French suffers from it.

    It requires a certain amount of conceit for that, that’s for sure. Conceit seems to be French’s most public weakness.

    I’ve been advising my parents that if confronted by a wokester for needing to subjugate themselves for the betterment of blacks to tell the to check their white savior privilege.

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  8. EHerring Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):
    There is one powerful systemically racist organization left in the US. It is the Democrat Party.

    True . . .

    But I wasn’t referring to individuals or organizations. Private clubs can be systemically disciminatory when it comes to the racial makeup of its members. Throw in all-male or all-female groups or schools, and there’s still plenty of systemic discrimination around.

    I remember Walter Williams used to talk about how discriminatory he was by ruling out white women when looking for a mate. The guy was so funny . . .

    He was funny. I remember the time he hosted for Rush and talked about holding the ladder so Mrs. Williams could clean out the gutters.

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  9. EHerring Coolidge
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    Stina (View Comment):

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):
    Seems like French is very concerned about unity in the Christian church, which as racially and ethnically diverse as it is, may be a valid concern.

    Such BS.

    This guy is far better on this subject than French is.

    And French is only out for himself. You don’t get to whine because we got his number. You like him? Go read him. French is not owed loyalty or even to be taken seriously by anyone. But crappy reasoning deserves to be mocked.

    Critical Race Theory infected some churches a long time ago. Know it by its former name, Black Liberation Theology..

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  10. Bishop Wash Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Minimum wage also has a bad effect on unskilled, poorly educated blacks (and everyone else in that category).

    Which was the purpose of the minimum wage from the beginning, as Sowell points out. “…Southern construction companies, using non-union black workers, were able to come north and underbid construction companies using unionized white labor.”

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  11. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Jager (View Comment):

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):
    Seems you would very much appreciate David French not writing about what he believes, not challenging his own assumptions and past beliefs, and maybe yours in the process, but only always telling you that you are right.

    That is one way to view this, but maybe not the only.

    When French writes and speaks, he does so in a style that says he is correct, has the only correct position and that he is firm in his convictions. Yes people can evolve in their thinking and challenge their own assumptions. That said it would be useful if French (and probably other professional writers) acknowledged those past assumptions, recognized that they are professional writers who’s past works can be search and read, they don’t just disappear like a SnapChat post.

    3-4 years ago Critical Race theory was bad according to French, then it was a useful tool in a much large toolkit but still bad as a stand alone way to look at things. Now we are much closer to a full throated defense and endorsement of the theory. All written with the tone that he has the proper view (the only view that is correct), even as that view changes.

    It is incumbent on French to recognize that his past writings and assumptions exist. He needs to take his readers on his journey, explain how he challenged his own assumptions, where was he wrong in 2017, or 2018 or 2020. Why is 2021 French really the right view?

    He did not pick up this topic on Sunday, never having written about it, and start with a fresh position. 2021 French needs to explain and/or apologize for 2017 French being so wrong as to now be almost racist.

    Keep in mind that French was racist before 2017, racist in 2017, racist now in 2021, and will be racist for the rest of his career as a pundit. 

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  12. Miffed White Male Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    Would Sowell say that racism was not even one contributing cause? (I honestly don’t know. I figure he knows, but I dont know much, and I dont even know what he knows.)

    Sowell and Baucham would note other marginalized populations are now widely successful and that there is nothing in our government or culture that justifies the abject depression of the black population in America except things that only they can change.

    Not exactly. Watch the UK with Sowell I posted. There are government policies with disparate impact on blacks. Sowell gives the example of environmental policies on homebuilding in San Francisco basically emptying the city of blacks in a few short years. Minimum wage also has a bad effect on unskilled, poorly educated blacks (and everyone else in that category). There are things “we” can change and almost all of them would be antithetical to what progressives want to do or have done.

    I don’t have the particular stats at hand, but I’ve read that Black immigrants do substantially better in the US than native-born Blacks do, even among those who come here with limited education and financial resources.  Which implies a victimization culture among the native-born plays a role in their pathologies.

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  13. Stina Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    I don’t have the particular stats at hand, but I’ve read that Black immigrants do substantially better in the US than native-born Blacks do, even among those who come here with limited education and financial resources.  Which implies a victimization culture among the native-born plays a role in their pathologies.

    Some of the governing policies that do capture low income blacks also catch low income whites. It’s less a color issue than a class issue, though it could be argued the class policy was designed with blacks in mind. Talking to liberals, you definitely get the idea that they think all urban low incomes are black.

    ”Poor kids are just as smart as white kids.” – Joe Biden, President – United States of America

    We are such a joke.

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  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    I don’t have the particular stats at hand, but I’ve read that Black immigrants do substantially better in the US than native-born Blacks do, even among those who come here with limited education and financial resources. Which implies a victimization culture among the native-born plays a role in their pathologies.

    Some of the governing policies that do capture low income blacks also catch low income whites. It’s less a color issue than a class issue, though it could be argued the class policy was designed with blacks in mind. Talking to liberals, you definitely get the idea that they think all urban low incomes are black.

    ”Poor kids are just as smart as white kids.” – Joe Biden, President – United States of America

    We They are such a joke.

    Better.

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  15. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Wouldn’t you love to see a Republican run on eliminating the minimum wage?? What a dream.

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  16. Stina Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Wouldn’t you love to see a Republican run on eliminating the minimum wage?? What a dream.

    I’d love to see it gain traction locally. No one campaigns against it locally.

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  17. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Wouldn’t you love to see a Republican run on eliminating the minimum wage?? What a dream.

    I’d love to see it gain traction locally. No one campaigns against it locally.

    But, we still have to contend with the Federal minimum wage. It shouldn’t be that hard to run on nationally — “the minimum wage prices low-skill, first-time job seekers out of the market and encourages automation to replace their jobs. We should get rid of it.” 

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  18. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    I don’t have the particular stats at hand, but I’ve read that Black immigrants do substantially better in the US than native-born Blacks do, even among those who come here with limited education and financial resources.  Which implies a victimization culture among the native-born plays a role in their pathologies.

    I’m pretty sure that black immigrants do substantially better then native-born whites, too.

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  19. The Reticulator Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):
    My attitude to the mistreatment of blacks over  the centuries in this country is how does it differ from the mistreatment of people over the centuries throughout the world?

    It was race-based in ways that most of the mistreatment of people over the centuries was not.  The racial aspect hardened in the few decades before the 1861-1865 war. 

    That’s probably the main difference.

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  20. Saint Augustine Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Not exactly. Watch the UK with Sowell I posted. There are government policies with disparate impact on blacks. Sowell gives the example of environmental policies on homebuilding in San Francisco basically emptying the city of blacks in a few short years. Minimum wage also has a bad effect on unskilled, poorly educated blacks (and everyone else in that category). There are things “we” can change and almost all of them would be antithetical to what progressives want to do or have done. 

    The systemic racism is real? And it’s on the left?

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  21. kedavis Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Not exactly. Watch the UK with Sowell I posted. There are government policies with disparate impact on blacks. Sowell gives the example of environmental policies on homebuilding in San Francisco basically emptying the city of blacks in a few short years. Minimum wage also has a bad effect on unskilled, poorly educated blacks (and everyone else in that category). There are things “we” can change and almost all of them would be antithetical to what progressives want to do or have done.

    The systemic racism is real? And it’s on the left?

    Well, it’s “always” been on the left, and to the extent that it’s “systemic,” that’s because the left controls so much of the “system.”

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  22. EHerring Coolidge
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    I don’t have the particular stats at hand, but I’ve read that Black immigrants do substantially better in the US than native-born Blacks do, even among those who come here with limited education and financial resources. Which implies a victimization culture among the native-born plays a role in their pathologies.

    I’m pretty sure that black immigrants do substantially better then native-born whites, too.

    -My neighbor is a Professor of economics.

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  23. Seawriter Contributor
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):
    My attitude to the mistreatment of blacks over the centuries in this country is how does it differ from the mistreatment of people over the centuries throughout the world?

    It was race-based in ways that most of the mistreatment of people over the centuries was not. The racial aspect hardened in the few decades before the 1861-1865 war.

    That’s probably the main difference.

    I’ll tell my enslaved ancestors that if I get the chance. I am sure they will find it comforting.

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  24. The Reticulator Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):
    My attitude to the mistreatment of blacks over the centuries in this country is how does it differ from the mistreatment of people over the centuries throughout the world?

    It was race-based in ways that most of the mistreatment of people over the centuries was not. The racial aspect hardened in the few decades before the 1861-1865 war.

    That’s probably the main difference.

    I’ll tell my enslaved ancestors that if I get the chance. I am sure they will find it comforting.

    They should find it different even if they don’t find it comforting. (You asked about different, not comforting.)

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  25. Seawriter Contributor
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):
    My attitude to the mistreatment of blacks over the centuries in this country is how does it differ from the mistreatment of people over the centuries throughout the world?

    It was race-based in ways that most of the mistreatment of people over the centuries was not. The racial aspect hardened in the few decades before the 1861-1865 war.

    That’s probably the main difference.

    I’ll tell my enslaved ancestors that if I get the chance. I am sure they will find it comforting.

    They should find it different even if they don’t find it comforting. (You asked about different, not comforting.)

    Except it is not really true but for the last few decades before the Civil War. There were white slaves  in the New World through the mid 1700s and Indian slaves into the 1820s.  I don’t see that 20-30 years of exclusivity makes that big a difference, except maybe to race-hustlers.  

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  26. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    No one is denying the mistreatment of blacks over the centuries in this country.

    My attitude to the mistreatment of blacks over the centuries in this country is how does it differ from the mistreatment of people over the centuries throughout the world?

    At the same time blacks were being hauled across the ocean to be sold as slaves in the Americas my ancestors were being seized from their farms in Greece, hauled across the Mediterranean and sold as slaves in Africa. It was a tax for the privilege of remaining Christian – your firstborn son was taken and sold as a slave.

    For that matter, between 1500 and 1820 (when the Royal Navy put a final stop to it) hundreds of thousands of Europeans living near the Mediterranean and Atlantic coasts were being seized by Africans, hauled to North Africa and sold in slave markets throughout the African continent. These were not just those on the Mediterranean coasts. African slaving expeditions sailed as far north as Britain.

    . . .

    Islamic doctrine regarding the enslavement of non-Muslims and of blacks should put the lie to the uniqueness of slavery in America. Furthermore, one should note that slavery still exists in various Muslim countries, and that Western efforts to eradicate slavery were one of the causes of Muslim rage against the West.

    But then, one should also note that race-based slavery existed in South and Central America, as did post-slavery discrimination and oppression, making the American experience far from unique.

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  27. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):
    My attitude to the mistreatment of blacks over the centuries in this country is how does it differ from the mistreatment of people over the centuries throughout the world?

    It was race-based in ways that most of the mistreatment of people over the centuries was not. The racial aspect hardened in the few decades before the 1861-1865 war.

    That’s probably the main difference.

    I’ll tell my enslaved ancestors that if I get the chance. I am sure they will find it comforting.

    They should find it different even if they don’t find it comforting. (You asked about different, not comforting.)

    Except it is not really true but for the last few decades before the Civil War. There were white slaves in the New World through the mid 1700s and Indian slaves into the 1820s. I don’t see that 20-30 years of exclusivity makes that big a difference, except maybe to race-hustlers.

    Some people want to portray slavery in America as uniquely different and uniquely bad–because they want to portray America as uniquely bad in ways that justify their efforts to wage war upon our culture.

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  28. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Sooner or later David French will be writing “The Conservative Case for Corporatism” and “The Conservative Case for Un-Personing of Thought Criminals”.

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  29. D.A. Venters Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    For someone who keeps saying he doesn’t agree with French on this stuff, you sure come out guns blazing on his critics.

     

    Not all the critics. I think there’s a difference between disagreeing with his opinions, which is fair, and despising him, calling him a grifter, etc for writing them.  It’s the endless obsession with figuring out who’s loyal and who’s a traitor, who’s on our side and who’s not, who’s a true believer and who’s a sellout, us v. them, assuming hidden motives, etc…that irritates me.  That’s not engaging ideas or exploring truth, that’s just ad hominen distraction, an argument on the same level as high school clique tribalism.

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  30. kedavis Coolidge
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    D.A. Venters (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    For someone who keeps saying he doesn’t agree with French on this stuff, you sure come out guns blazing on his critics.

     

    Not all the critics. I think there’s a difference between disagreeing with his opinions, which is fair, and despising him, calling him a grifter, etc for writing them. It’s the endless obsession with figuring out who’s loyal and who’s a traitor, who’s on our side and who’s not, who’s a true believer and who’s a sellout, us v. them, assuming hidden motives, etc…that irritates me. That’s not engaging ideas or exploring truth, that’s just ad hominen distraction, an argument on the same level as high school clique tribalism.

    Except, of course, that he’s used that way by “the other side,” and we ignore it at our – and everyone’s – peril.

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