Please Get Vaccinated

 

We are in the middle of another COVID spike in Texas, in much of the rest of the country and the world.  In Texas new infections are up by 300 to 400%.

Fear-mongering comes in the news in the form of Greek letters these days, but the fear-mongering has a kernel of truth to it.  Unvaccinated people are at increased risk of getting infected; as an adult, if you get infected you have a 10% chance of getting severe disease.  Leaving aside the chance of death, if you get severe disease you have a 30% chance of having long-term problems, like dementia, which in popular accounts is described as “brain fog”.  And the brain fog for those who get it is not going away.

So, according to the Wall Street Journal,  if you’re not vaccinated your chance of getting long-term problems or dying from COVID is 25 times greater than for those who are vaccinated.  Yes, the vaccines are incredibly effective and safe, better than most vaccines we’ve had before.  And they are still effective even against the Delta variant of COVID.   Pray to God that no resistant strains of the virus ever emerge, but the longer this pandemic drags on the more likely it is that resistant strains will emerge.  And this pandemic is going to keep going as long as people don’t get immunity, either through catching the disease or through vaccination.

Here in Podunkville, Texas, you can walk into any Big Box Drug Store and get jabbed, usually for free.  There’s a huge amount of evidence now that the vaccines are safe long-term.  If that’s not good enough for you then every single one of the medications and vaccines that we’ve ever used are not good enough for you.

Get vaccinated, my people.

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  1. Nohaaj Coolidge
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    Roderic: There’s an huge amount of evidence now that the vaccines are safe long term.

    I do not believe you understand the meaning of “long term”.

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  2. MarciN Member
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    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Roderic: There’s an huge amount of evidence now that the vaccines are safe long term.

    I do not believe you understand the meaning of “long term”.

    We don’t have a clear picture yet of what long-term effects there may be from the vaccine. That’s true. But patients need to consider the fact that there are possible and probable long-term effects from contracting the virus as well. We are seeing long-term effects now in people who contracted the virus as long ago as early December 2019. We are starting to see what those look like.

    We are all dealing with imperfect information.

     

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  3. Aaron Miller Member
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    Roderic: And they are still effective even against the Delta variant of COVID. 

    I hope so. That is what I have read. But an associate revealed the other day that she has read otherwise. That’s the nature of the world these days: conflicting information. 

    That’s why I half-expect another round of mask mandates, by my church if not by my county. Do they help? Conflicting information. 

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  4. MarciN Member
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    I’ve spent a lot of time in medical care for one reason or another, for myself or my family.

    I am not wired to be a doctor. The decisions they make under the conditions they make them would scare me.

    That’s why I trust them. I’ve seen them in action.

    There is no group of people I have more respect for. I am grateful to them.

    I don’t expect my doctor to have perfect knowledge. Only God has that. I know my doctor has read all the journal articles and is up to date on the controversies and that in her opinion, the best protection for me is the vaccine, given the facts of my history and characteristics as her patient.

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  5. MarciN Member
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    Roderic: And they are still effective even against the Delta variant of COVID.

    I hope so. That is what I have read. But an associate revealed the other day that she has read otherwise. That’s the nature of the world these days: conflicting information.

    That’s why I half-expect another round of mask mandates, by my church if not by my county. Do they help? Conflicting information.

    I think we should all be grateful for conflicting information. It’s a blessing. 

    It’s wonderful. 

     

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  6. Roderic Reagan
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Roderic: There’s an huge amount of evidence now that the vaccines are safe long term.

    I do not believe you understand the meaning of “long term”.

    We don’t have a clear picture yet of what the long-term effects there may be from the vaccine. That’s true. But there are long-term effects from contracting the virus as well. We are seeing long-term effects now in people who contracted the virus as long ago as early December 2019. We are starting to see what those look like.

    We are all dealing with imperfect information.

    That there might be long term effects beyond 2 months from the vaccination is speculation based on nothing.  History going back as far as the 1960s shows that effects out that far haven’t been seen with vaccines of any type.

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  7. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    Roderic: There’s an huge amount of evidence now that the vaccines are safe long term. 

    How can that be since the vaccines have only been tested for a year?    

    Meanwhile in London about half of all new cases are vaccinated people.  What does that mean??

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  8. The Reticulator Member
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    Roderic: And the brain fog for those who get it is not going away.

    Are there data on this?  Most of the reports I’ve seen on the long-term effects of covid define long term on the order of a few months, but I certainly haven’t been keeping up with the topic.

    Aside from quibbles about “long term” safety and “long term” harm, I don’t find your appeal to get vaccinated to be as annoying as a lot of others I’ve seen.  I’m not sure why.  (I can’t speak for your target audience.)  

     

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  9. Aaron Miller Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I think we should all be grateful for conflicting information. It’s a blessing. 

    It’s wonderful. 

    Yes, I prefer it to the Big 3 networks spoonfeeding Democrat talking points. 

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Roderic: There’s an huge amount of evidence now that the vaccines are safe long term.

    How can that be since the vaccines have only been tested for a year?

    Meanwhile in London about half of all new cases are vaccinated people. What does that mean??

    Could mean a lot of different things.  It could mean that a huge majority of the population is vaccinated, but 3-4 percent of those who have been vaccinated are getting covid. We need data, not news articles.  

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  11. MarciN Member
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Roderic: There’s an huge amount of evidence now that the vaccines are safe long term.

    How can that be since the vaccines have only been tested for a year?

    Meanwhile in London about half of all new cases are vaccinated people. What does that mean??

    This is where the mRNA vaccines work differently from older-generation vaccines. 

    To quote the town manager in Provincetown, where we are seeing an uptick in cases:

    Town Manager Alex Morse said Tuesday that, “Overwhelmingly, the affected individuals have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19. The moderate intensity of symptoms indicates that the vaccines are working as predicted.”

     

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  12. JustmeinAZ Member
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):
    Meanwhile in London about half of all new cases are vaccinated people.  What does that mean??

    Source?

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  13. W Bob Member
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/realism-about-vaccine-hesitancy-11626214824?st=b8pslxly47ofc50&reflink=article_copyURL_share

     

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  14. W Bob Member
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    Roderic (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Roderic: There’s an huge amount of evidence now that the vaccines are safe long term.

    I do not believe you understand the meaning of “long term”.

    We don’t have a clear picture yet of what the long-term effects there may be from the vaccine. That’s true. But there are long-term effects from contracting the virus as well. We are seeing long-term effects now in people who contracted the virus as long ago as early December 2019. We are starting to see what those look like.

    We are all dealing with imperfect information.

    That there might be long term effects beyond 2 months from the vaccination is speculation based on nothing. History going back as far as the 1960s shows that effects out that far haven’t been seen with vaccines of any type.

    Sometime around when I got the JJ vaccine three months ago…possibly just before but I think just after…I started feeling warm sensations in my feet and lower legs. Like they were being dipped in warm water. It’s periodic. I feel it most days but not all day. And whenever it started, it started overnight, like a switch had been flipped. I know there are a dozen other different conditions that could cause this, but it’s a constant reminder of the vaccine and how much we may have to learn about its long term effects.

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  15. Jules PA Member
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    Roderic: And this pandemic is going to keep going as long as people don’t get immunity, either through catching the disease or through vaccination. 

    Why is the natural immunity not a larger part of the protection discussion push?????

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  16. Jules PA Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Conflicting information.

    I think we should all be grateful for conflicting information. It’s a blessing. 

    It’s wonderful. 

    What concerns me is the suppression of some aspects of the discussion. 

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  17. MarciN Member
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    Jules PA (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Conflicting information.

    I think we should all be grateful for conflicting information. It’s a blessing.

    It’s wonderful.

    What concerns me is the suppression of some aspects of the discussion.

    Exactly. The attempt by the government to control information dissemination over the past year has given me a new appreciation for opinion diversity. Let the arguments ring all across the land! :-) It’s the sound of freedom. :-) 

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  18. EHerring Coolidge
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    Roderic (View Comment):

    “Leaving aside the chance of death, if you get severe disease you have a 30% chance of  having long term problems, like dementia, …”

    There is scare stuff out there. “Long term” signals opinion, not fact. We have no long term study of those who had COVID. I suspect the rise in scary headlines is to nudge people into getting the vaccine. Another trick is using percentages. A jump from 3 t0 12 can give a scary percent but not a scary total. I checked. Texas had 3,000 new cases, almost a rounding error in a state with a total of over 3 million cases since covid arrived. Males and Hispanics are the demographic drivers. In Florida, same scare tactics only some blamed the restart of cruises, too. Unvaccinated passengers aren’t cruising, yet, and if they were, they would be the small number who don’t get because of age or medical reasons. If they were spreading COVID, they would have been caught in the many COVID tests the ships are demanding. Perhaps over open borders should enjoy more of the blame for  the small increase we see now. Note: I got the vaccine and had no issues.

     

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  19. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    JustmeinAZ (View Comment):

    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):
    Meanwhile in London about half of all new cases are vaccinated people. What does that mean??

    Source?

    I will say that in England the vaccination rate is 90%.   Here’s the article.

    There are two nice graphs:

    Surveillance data shows almost half of cases are now being spotted among Britons who have received at least one dose of the vaccine (orange line), while they are dropping among the un-vaccinated (blue line). Professor Spector suggested this may be the case because the virus is 'running out' of un-vaccinated people to infect

    This graph shows the percentage of Covid swabs that detected the virus among Britons depending on whether they were un-vaccinated (red line), had one dose (blue line) or two doses (orange line). Almost half of all Britons who had Covid had been vaccinated in the week to July 10 (week 27 on the graph). Cases in un-vaccinated Britons did not appear to be falling here because the graph considers the percentage of people tested who had the virus

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  20. She Reagan
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):
    Meanwhile in London about half of all new cases are vaccinated people.  What does that mean??

    July 4-10 new cases, London: approx 25,000.

    As of July 14, about 5.5 million people in London have received at least the first dose of a vaccine.  Almost 4 million people have received two doses.  

    That means that of those 5.5 million people, about 12.5K people contracted COVID last week.

    Source for the above: https://data.london.gov.uk/dataset/coronavirus–covid-19–cases

    This headline: Almost half UK Covid infections are in people … at least partly vaccinated…but the cases were much milder, may be significant.  It’s not specific to London, though. 

    Britain has a pretty high vaccination rate.  Total percentage, age 18 and over who’ve received one dose is about almost 88%.  Two doses, almost 68%.  

    In terms of lifting the lockdowns–something that’s supposed to happen on Tuesday–the country is a total basket case.  I sometimes wonder if this is because the NHS, a powerful lobby, is functioning in much the same way as the teachers’ unions are in this country, and is working against loosening restrictions for reasons that are as much, if not more to do with its own interests, than they are to do with any aspect of public health.

     

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  21. The Reticulator Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    To quote the town manager in Provincetown, where we are seeing an uptick in cases:

    Town Manager Alex Morse said Tuesday that, “Overwhelmingly, the affected individuals have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19. The moderate intensity of symptoms indicates that the vaccines are working as predicted.”

    That’s a better than average news article, but it doesn’t link to data in tabular and/or graph or chart form.  Not that I have any reason to disagree with the summary by the town manager, but I’d like to see the data that were used to write up that story. 

    (I hate “town manager” form of government, but that’s a separate issue for the people of Provincetown to deal with.) 

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  22. OkieSailor Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Roderic: There’s an huge amount of evidence now that the vaccines are safe long term.

    I do not believe you understand the meaning of “long term”.

    We don’t have a clear picture yet of what long-term effects there may be from the vaccine. That’s true. But patients need to consider the fact that there are possible and probable long-term effects from contracting the virus as well. We are seeing long-term effects now in people who contracted the virus as long ago as early December 2019. We are starting to see what those look like.

    We are all dealing with imperfect information.

     

    There are no solutions, only Trade-Offs to quote a very wise Sowell. So this, like all things requires a decision, hopefully an informed decision.

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  23. W Bob Member
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    JustmeinAZ (View Comment):

    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):
    Meanwhile in London about half of all new cases are vaccinated people. What does that mean??

    Source?

    This is all very unclear to me. Every time it’s talked about on the tv, terms are never defined. What does it mean for a vaccinated person to be a “case”?

    The vaccine does not and cannot prevent you from inhaling the virus. If you are vaccinated and inhale it and get nose swabbed, it’s going to be positive.  It doesn’t mean anything. It’s not a “breakthrough” if you don’t have symptoms.

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  24. Idahoklahoman Inactive
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Roderic: There’s an huge amount of evidence now that the vaccines are safe long term.

    How can that be since the vaccines have only been tested for a year?

    Meanwhile in London about half of all new cases are vaccinated people. What does that mean??

    Could mean a lot of different things. It could mean that a huge majority of the population is vaccinated, but 3-4 percent of those who have been vaccinated are getting covid. We need data, not news articles.

    One possible answer is that the Delta variant is very mild. Most people who get it never get tested or diagnosed. Those that have received the vaccine may be the type of people who go get tested frequently, or go to a clinic for mild symptoms, and therefore they are over-represented in the positive test results.

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  25. Doctor Robert Member
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    Roderic:

    There’s an huge amount of evidence now that the vaccines are safe long term.  If that’s not good enough for you then every single one of the medications and vaccines that we’ve ever used are not good enough for you. 

     

    As much as I appreciate your plea–I’ve had covid, and I lost my dream job because of it–this statement is not true.  There is no proof that the experimental mRNA gene therapy is safe long term.  Zero, nada, zilch. There cannot be.  They came out in December.  December to July is not long term. Five years from now, we can talk again, but in the meantime, the little clusters of myocarditis and Guillain-Barre which have popped up in treated people suggest that my concerns for long term gene therapy-induced immunologic problems is not built on sand.

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  26. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    She (View Comment):

    That means that of those 5.5 million people, about 12.5K people contracted COVID last week.

    Source for the above: https://data.london.gov.uk/dataset/coronavirus–covid-19–cases

    This headline: Almost half UK Covid infections are in people … at least partly vaccinated…but the cases were much milder, may be significant.  It’s not specific to London, though. 

    Britain has a pretty high vaccination rate.  Total percentage, age 18 and over who’ve received one dose is about almost 88%.  Two doses, almost 68%.  

    I don’t know if the UK vaccine is not as good or we are moving to the endemic stage where this thing circulates forever.   Either way, it is good time to stock up on anti-viral treatments for the home. 

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  27. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    As much as I appreciate your plea–I’ve had covid, and I lost my dream job because of it–this statement is not true.  There is no proof that the experimental mRNA gene therapy is safe long term. 

    I tell my friends with school-aged teens to avoid getting them the jab as long as possible.  It might be that the current dosage is too high for tiny humans with raging hormones.   Too soon to tell. 

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  28. W Bob Member
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    As much as I appreciate your plea–I’ve had covid, and I lost my dream job because of it–this statement is not true. There is no proof that the experimental mRNA gene therapy is safe long term.

    I tell my friends with school-aged teens to avoid getting them the jab as long as possible. It might be that the current dosage is too high for tiny humans with raging hormones. Too soon to tell.

    That’s why it’s crazy that they may be fully approved by the FDA soon. The reason approval usually takes years isn’t red tape. It’s because they wait that long to get long term safety info. You can’t speed that up. If they do speed it up, you’ll know the scientific process has been hijacked by politics. 

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  29. Flicker Coolidge
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    Roderic: if you get severe disease you have a 30% chance of  having long term problems, like dementia, which in popular accounts is described as “brain fog”.  And the brain fog for those who get it is not going away.

    So now with the Delta variant of Covid Awareness Broadcasting, the fear is that it will not give you acute flu-like symptoms immediately but will cause long-term “dementia”.

    Is there any long-term data on the vaccination problems?

    Specifically, have any powerful animal studies been completed on vaccine safety?  On mice, cats or ferrets, or anything?

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  30. James Salerno Coolidge
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    If this was a truly deadly virus like Ebola, they wouldn’t need to use forced coercion to sell the vaccine. People would be lining up to take it. Our government lied through their teeth about this virus all year, why should I suddenly trust them?

    The vaccine would kill you under Trump. It wasn’t ready yet. Do not take any vaccinations that were developed under the Trump administration.

    That was only in October. Now, it’s “take the vaccine or be excluded from civilization.” Huh?

    I have no reason to trust these parasites. I have eyes. I don’t see bodies piling up in the street. I don’t even know anyone who became seriously ill due to this. The virus is killing old people and fat people. I’m neither. I take care of my own health and that’s all I can do. You take care of yours. If that sounds like I do not care about you, you are right, I do not. I do not care about things that are not within my control. I am much more concerned about losing pesky inconveniences like free speech and basic civil liberties than I am of a virus that has a near 0 percent chance of killing me.

    I will never get a Covid vaccine, ever.

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