The ‘Undimmed Danger’

 

Holy Moly!  I read a piece on a website (I don’t even know where or how I ended up there) and I’m still wondering why it was written. The title references Trump’s “….undimmed danger” and the point being made: “It’s the extreme danger that the US system of government, Constitution and cherished freedoms would face if an ex-President even now trying to revive his demagogic political career ever gets anywhere near the Oval Office again.”

Why is Trump such a scary bad guy to these people? Is it because he came into office and simply bypassed the press? Is it because he didn’t pay enough attention to the “consensus of the interagency?”  Is it because he beat The Hillary so well in that election where she was supposed to be the First Woman President?

Reading these articles that analyze a series of new books (some by Washington Post reporters, some by CNN talkers, and I think one is by General Mark Milley, former head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) I am struck by the ferocity of the need for these authors to continue to beat the dead corpse of the defeated candidate for US President in 2020’s election. (Also, Milley should resign … a military officer is not supposed to be political.)

I am also dismayed by the ridicule heaped on the Trump supporters at CPAC, and people who voted for him in general. There is so much contempt for the Red State doofuses, I wonder if these critics feel compelled to wash their hands after they type “Red States.”Maybe they just squirt some hand sanitizer on them. But, this dismissal of more than one-half of the voting population is nothing new. It has been going on for decades. However, it seems like it has been the default for “journalists” ever since the Red/Blue identifiers were first articulated.

Is there a serious fear that Trump really has a chance for re-election as president? I voted for him. I was very disappointed when he lost to Biden. But, I don’t know if he’d be a serious candidate in three more years. He’d be as old as Doddering Joe is now.

Anyone here think (like I’m thinking) that exaggeration of Trump, the Jan. 6 mess at the Capitol, and things he said or did in office, are just attempts to fling around enough BS so that any attempt by DJT to reenter the political arena as a candidate will be impossible?

I feel discouraged. After all, the last time he ran, all the opposition forces (and by that, I reference the Media) courted and promoted Trump because they thought it would be so hilarious and a good way to squash the success of any of the other GOP candidates. Then, they found themselves in a quandary because he succeeded! So, now they’ve learned? So now they have to go all-0ut to destroy him?

It is dismaying for many reasons, and especially because we live in such a divided information world.  If you faithfully watch and read the (completely-discredited, in my opinion) Mainstream Media, you have no idea that you’re watching completely biased, one-sided, often completely invented (Russia-Gate) “news.” I have had conversations with people who have never even heard of some of the people and things that might be negative towards the Democrats/Liberals. I was really amazed until I realized that if it was reported on Fox TV, or presented on any of the talk radio stations I listen to, or websites such as Breitbart, Powerline, Ricochet, Town Hall, etc., some people would have no knowledge of so many stories that would bring a positive view to conservatives and a criticism or revelation about something nefarious on the lefty side of American politics. We are in news silos…

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Commenting on the Ricochet podcasts I have repeatedly asked why Rob Long considers Trump uniquely vile, that he doesn’t like his style sure OK but what I’m questioning is the pure disgust coming from conservatives, he may not be everything you want but isn’t /wasn’t he better than the alternatives? I don’t understand it. I also hate fighting in our own foxhole while the enemy is relentlessly attacking.

    Probably goes back decades. Certain New Yorkers saw him as a blight on the city.

    A lot of New Yorkers were – and still are – just jealous.

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  2. Rightfromthestart Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Commenting on the Ricochet podcasts I have repeatedly asked why Rob Long considers Trump uniquely vile, that he doesn’t like his style sure OK but what I’m questioning is the pure disgust coming from conservatives, he may not be everything you want but isn’t /wasn’t he better than the alternatives? I don’t understand it. I also hate fighting in our own foxhole while the enemy is relentlessly attacking.

    Probably goes back decades. Certain New Yorkers saw him as a blight on the city.

    A lot of New Yorkers were – and still are – just jealous.

    He’s Queens, I’m Brooklyn, he sounds to me like everyone I’ve always known. Manhattanites however, most of them hailing from elsewhere, positively distain the outer boroughs and their inhabitants. 

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  3. James Salerno Inactive
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    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Commenting on the Ricochet podcasts I have repeatedly asked why Rob Long considers Trump uniquely vile, that he doesn’t like his style sure OK but what I’m questioning is the pure disgust coming from conservatives, he may not be everything you want but isn’t /wasn’t he better than the alternatives? I don’t understand it. I also hate fighting in our own foxhole while the enemy is relentlessly attacking.

    Probably goes back decades. Certain New Yorkers saw him as a blight on the city.

    A lot of New Yorkers were – and still are – just jealous.

    He’s Queens, I’m Brooklyn, he sounds to me like everyone I’ve always known. Manhattanites however, most of them hailing from elsewhere, positively distain the outer boroughs and their inhabitants.

    Statists hate anyone who denies them their peasant class. 

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  4. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    James Salerno (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Commenting on the Ricochet podcasts I have repeatedly asked why Rob Long considers Trump uniquely vile, that he doesn’t like his style sure OK but what I’m questioning is the pure disgust coming from conservatives, he may not be everything you want but isn’t /wasn’t he better than the alternatives? I don’t understand it. I also hate fighting in our own foxhole while the enemy is relentlessly attacking.

    Probably goes back decades. Certain New Yorkers saw him as a blight on the city.

    A lot of New Yorkers were – and still are – just jealous.

    He’s Queens, I’m Brooklyn, he sounds to me like everyone I’ve always known. Manhattanites however, most of them hailing from elsewhere, positively distain the outer boroughs and their inhabitants.

    Statists hate anyone who denies them their peasant class.

    Yes

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  5. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Commenting on the Ricochet podcasts I have repeatedly asked why Rob Long considers Trump uniquely vile, that he doesn’t like his style sure OK but what I’m questioning is the pure disgust coming from conservatives, he may not be everything you want but isn’t /wasn’t he better than the alternatives? I don’t understand it.

    Neither do they. It’s reactionary, not logical. And you can give them evidence that they’re wrong, but it will never take. They’ve hardened themselves against ever changing their minds. You can ask for specifics on the “imminent threat to the Constitution” garbage they always toss out, but they won’t give you any. Because there aren’t any. They just hate. 

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  6. Barfly Member
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    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Commenting on the Ricochet podcasts I have repeatedly asked why Rob Long considers Trump uniquely vile, that he doesn’t like his style sure OK but what I’m questioning is the pure disgust coming from conservatives, he may not be everything you want but isn’t /wasn’t he better than the alternatives? I don’t understand it. I also hate fighting in our own foxhole while the enemy is relentlessly attacking.

    Take their visceral response as a tell. There are three ways a person may make his way in the world. Stop me if you’ve heard this one. He may produce something of objectively measurable value and barter it for his needs. He may persuade others to provide for him. Or he may step outside the system and operate the levers on his own behalf.

    People who honestly feel threatened by DJT are almost uniformly persuasive in orientation. They are not productive people, they merely feed on those who are. They are a threat only in their numbers and insatiable appetite for money and respeck.

    On the other hand there are people in opposition to our populist moment who are consciously trying to maintain their position at our expense. When you run into a lawyer of the left you’re probably dealing with the operator class. It’s less certain whether a publisher or person in the entertainment industry is an operator or a mere persuasive, but if they’re successful in that field then they’re probably the former. These people would be criminals but for their fear of being caught and punished.

    So, to understand them, look at how they spend their time. Do they produce, or do they persuade? Society can do without the latter sort.

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  7. Mark Alexander Inactive
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    Barfly (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Commenting on the Ricochet podcasts I have repeatedly asked why Rob Long considers Trump uniquely vile, that he doesn’t like his style sure OK but what I’m questioning is the pure disgust coming from conservatives, he may not be everything you want but isn’t /wasn’t he better than the alternatives? I don’t understand it. I also hate fighting in our own foxhole while the enemy is relentlessly attacking.

    Take their visceral response as a tell. There are three ways a person may make his way in the world. Stop me if you’ve heard this one. He may produce something of objectively measurable value and barter it for his needs. He may persuade others to provide for him. Or he may step outside the system and operate the levers on his own behalf.

    People who honestly feel threatened by DJT are almost uniformly persuasive in orientation. They are not productive people, they merely feed on those who are. They are a threat only in their numbers and insatiable appetite for money and respeck.

    On the other hand there are people in opposition to our populist moment who are consciously trying to maintain their position at our expense. When you run into a lawyer of the left you’re probably dealing with the operator class. It’s less certain whether a publisher or person in the entertainment industry is an operator or a mere persuasive, but if they’re successful in that field then they’re probably the former. These people would be criminals but for their fear of being caught and punished.

    So, to understand them, look at how they spend their time. Do they produce, or do they persuade? Society can do without the latter sort.

    You make a persuasive case.

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  8. Barfly Member
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    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Barfly (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Commenting on the Ricochet podcasts I have repeatedly asked why Rob Long considers Trump uniquely vile, that he doesn’t like his style sure OK but what I’m questioning is the pure disgust coming from conservatives, he may not be everything you want but isn’t /wasn’t he better than the alternatives? I don’t understand it. I also hate fighting in our own foxhole while the enemy is relentlessly attacking.

    Take their visceral response as a tell. There are three ways a person may make his way in the world. Stop me if you’ve heard this one. He may produce something of objectively measurable value and barter it for his needs. He may persuade others to provide for him. Or he may step outside the system and operate the levers on his own behalf.

    People who honestly feel threatened by DJT are almost uniformly persuasive in orientation. They are not productive people, they merely feed on those who are. They are a threat only in their numbers and insatiable appetite for money and respeck.

    On the other hand there are people in opposition to our populist moment who are consciously trying to maintain their position at our expense. When you run into a lawyer of the left you’re probably dealing with the operator class. It’s less certain whether a publisher or person in the entertainment industry is an operator or a mere persuasive, but if they’re successful in that field then they’re probably the former. These people would be criminals but for their fear of being caught and punished.

    So, to understand them, look at how they spend their time. Do they produce, or do they persuade? Society can do without the latter sort.

    You make a persuasive case.

    Thanks for deploying the foil. Even when I write specifically to persuade, I do so by pointing to what I see in the world. I have an unspoken faith that things in the real world will resonate in others’ minds. Compare that style of argument with that of a persuasive – they’ll try to go directly to the other’s mind, without reference to anything outside their own thought. Then they’ll experience cognitive dissonance when the other’s mind doesn’t match theirs.

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  9. Barfly Member
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    Arguing with a lefty is like pointing something out to your dog. Your dog won’t follow your pointing finger to the object of your interest – he’ll just look at your hand.

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  10. Mark Alexander Inactive
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    Barfly (View Comment):

    Arguing with a lefty is like pointing something out to your dog. Your dog won’t follow your pointing finger to the object of your interest – he’ll just look at your hand.

    Arguing with a lefty is like:

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