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It's our special Friday the 13th episode of the podcast and we're lucky to be joined by political consultant and "Meet The Press" regular Mike Murphy, and then later by John Yoo, Berkeley law professor and the former deputy assistant attorney general in the Office of Legal Counsel in the Justice Department of President George W. Bush, and of course one of the stars of Ricochet's "Law Talk with Epstein and Yoo."

The Ricochet Podcast is sponsored by Encounter Books and their Broadside series. This week our title is "Government Unions and the Bankrupting of America" by Daniel DiSalvo. Available at EncounterBooks.com and Amazon.com.

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