Need To Know with Mona Charen and Jay Nordlinger
Episode 20: Water-Gate

National Review's Mona Charen and Jay Nordlinger
Feb 16, 2013
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This week on Need To Know: full SOTU coverage, Mona’s unlikely pen-pal, minimum wage and McJobs, horrors! – we’re losing to China on solar energy, universal pre-school, thoughts on Rubio, and meet Jay’s new hero — Elton John.

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  1. I. raptus

    Um.  Complaining about water bottles now … really?

  2. Matt Travis

    Not their best effort, Jay was fine, Mona seemed to be off her game slightly…

  3. Mona Charen
    C

    The name of the F. A. Hayek book I couldn’t recall was The Fatal Conceit. The discussion of how the word “social” destroys the meaning of words which it is paired is found on pages 114-119. He gives dozens of examples, including “social history,” “social ethics,” and “social democracy.” 

  4. Allan Trojan

    Jay, where are you publishing your article about Stephen Harper?

    I am a Canadian and I want to red it.

  5. Jay Nordlinger
    C
    Allan Trojan: Jay, where are you publishing your article about Stephen Harper?

    I am a Canadian and I want to red it. · 18 hours ago

    Hi, Allan — will be in the next National Review, if all goes well. Thx.

  6. Jay Nordlinger
    C

    I listened to this podcast and, to my horror, discovered that I can’t speak. First of all, why is my voice so high? To myself, I sound like Robert Merrill. Second, there is some glitch at about the 2:26 mark — words are missing. Not my fault. So, now on to my faults.

    I meant to say, “If Marco Rubio’s name were Mark Rubin” — instead, I said, “Mark Rubio.” I also messed up a wonderful quotation. The true quotation is, “When I found out Jews were no longer considered a minority, I had my first good night’s sleep in 2,000 years.” I said the opposite: a “majority.”

    Between now and the next podcast, I’ll take speech lessons. Either that or not listen to any more podcasts …

  7. Nick Stuart

    Jay “The racist Right”? Did I miss something, were George Wallace, Bull Connor, J William Fulbright, &tc. Republicans? Were they all conservatives?

  8. concerned citizen

    I for one enjoyed the water bottle discussion, since I have the same thoughts on it.  I remember one Sunday being in a church meeting  and a (non-pregnant, non-medically fragile) woman sitting near me kept drinking from her trusty water bottle.   This annoyed me.  I found it disrespectful and distracting.   I thought, “can’t she just wait until the end of this meeting, like the rest of us?  Why does she think she needs to be so uber-hydrated anyway?”  

    I think Mona is right.  People are highly impressionable.  If you (you being the popular culture) tell them that they need to be constantly drinking water, that that is what a Healthy, Fit Person does, then they will do it.  What is surprising is how many people fall right in line.

  9. concerned citizen

    I wish we had someone who would stand up and expose how it is Democrat policies that encourage the broken families that then lead to “at risk” children, which then lead to Democrats making Head Start “sacrosanct” as Jay said, and making asinine calls for more Democrat policies such as government Pre-K.

    As Mona pointed out, it is the family.  These stupid, feckless government programs are a band-aid on a broken leg.

    If families are two parent, intact, and strong, this problem of ‘at risk’ children — who haven’t been nurtured and who are not prepared for kindergarten — essentially disappears.

  10. Freesmith

    Ricochet co-founder Rob Long recently praised a memoir of growing up in 1960s LA by Ken Levine titled “The Me Decade…by Me.” Levine was no radical; he was a budding comedy writer and semi-nerd, not political at all; but every time his story leaves the personal and touches upon the Zeitgeist his thoughts echo every typical Democrat you’ve ever heard.

    Levine grew up to write episodes of MASH and Frasier, among other sitcoms. 

    His liberalism as a teenager was unblushingly assured. Not as bumptious as Alan Alda’s character Hawkeye, but perhaps he had to grow in that.

    The Sixties churned out liberals by the millions. Our current age is doing the same.

    If you are going to fight the power of the Democrats,  Mona and Jay, you are going to have to understand that for many national politics is a taste and lifestyle option, not an ideological choice.

    And instead of playing at Debate Club you should recall that one photo of Michael Dukakis in a helmet was worth a million op-eds.

  11. Freesmith

    Mona, why do you think America needs immigrants? Is it our 8% unemployment rate, or the Information Age’s dire need for unskilled labor?

    Do we really need to import high tech workers or offer fast-track citizenship to foreign engineering and technology students? I can see where that would benefit American business, but how does it benefit America, or rather Americans?

    Shouldn’t a pro-American take the position that rather than offering a quick fix to business for our dearth of skilled tech workers we should instead urge business to do the harder work of petitioning government to reform the educational system that they say is failing them?

    I recently read in the Philadelphia Inquirer that the percentage of foreign students in our universities is increasing rapidly. The universities are fine with this trend: the foreign students pay full tuition, and the high academic records raise the school’s intellectual profile.

    Too bad for the middle-class white kids who lose out on those class slots because they are now competing against the cream of the world to get into their own country’s colleges and graduate schools. 

    No wonder national Republicans can’t win Ohio.

  12. Indaba

    Great analysis of the speech. Local control of education is very good, Jay. Looking forward to your interview with the Canadian. Got to be Joe Oliver?

  13. Israel P.

    Jay, “I resemble that remark” was used by The Three Stooges long before Chevy Chase. For all I know, it’s even older.

  14. Joseph Louderback

    I was three years behind James DePriest at Penn.   He was very well-regarded as a musician and student back then.   I hadn’t heard much of him since.

  15. Sal

    Jay: I hate to differ with you on Rubio’s merits. His great strength is that he can explain America to Americans so darn well. The Hispanic thing is a plus but Rubio would still stand out if he were not Hispanic. Ditto for Ted Cruz. After the left has invested so heavily in ethnic indoctrination it would be a delightful irony if it were to be used against them by a conservative. Viva Rubio! Sal PS Rob Portman can be Rubio’s Chief of Staff and tutor him in the ways of Washington.

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