Need To Know with Mona Charen and Jay Nordlinger
Episode 52: Myron Magnet and The Reversible Good

Guest: City Journal's Myron Magnet
Nov 9, 2013
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This week, City Journal’s Myron Magnet discusses New York’s new mayor, wondering how much damage this fellow could inflict after two decades of peace and prosperity. (Magnet’s new book is about better politicians, from a different era: The Founders at Home.) Then, Mona and Jay consider the election results in Virginia, the trouble with “100-percenters,” the deal with Iran, and continued wrestlings with the cello. Finally, a certain podcast reaches its one-year anniversary.

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  1. Jason Rudert

    Mr. Magnet looks like some of his research on 18th-century America came at first hand.

  2. BuckeyeSam

    NTK has become a weekly ritual for me. Mona and Jay (or Jay and Mona) do a wonderful job with this podcast. This installment with Mr. Magnet is certainly no disappointment. That said, I think Mr. Magnet was guilty of a foot fault when discussing the stop-and-frisk policing technique at about 9:00. It’s my understanding that stop and frisk can be undertaken based on a “reasonable suspicion,” a standard that is somewhat lower than the “probable cause” suspicion that Mr. Magnet cites. 

    Constitutional-law hairsplitting? Perhaps. But stop-and-frisk searches (aka Terry searches) emanate from the SCOTUS decision in Terry v. Ohio (1968), so there is a very real difference, which Mr. Magnet should appreciate. And to the extent he conflates the “probable cause” standard and the “reasonable suspicion” standard, he undermines his own credibility.

  3. Rightfromthestart

    Mr. de Blasio, known to one and all as a communist, was hired and festered, moving up  in the NYC and Democratic party systems for decades. I’m sure there are many more like him all over the country waiting their chance until circumstances  are right.  We, on our side, don’t have moles of this sort sprinkled throughout the various governments. I wonder if a known conservative could have lasted as long and prospered.

  4. Roan Suda

    A fine anniversary podcast! I do not live in the United States but have two daughters in New York City, one a survivor of 9/11, smoked out of her dwelling. I worry for their safety now, as I worry for the sanity of America and for the security of the State of Israel. But I take heart from the cellist and the musical man of wisdom.

  5. kylez

    Mona’s statement that talking about freedom is probably no longer good enough, though likely true, is a really sad statement, and an idea that makes me think i hardly recognize my own country in some ways.

  6. NYC Supporter

    Jay -Listened to your podcast last night, with the discussion on Bryant Park, and woke up to a story of a shooting in Bryant Park in the real paper of record, the NY Post, over a jacket.Amazing coincidence or prophetic?One of the least discussed benefits of Stop and Frisk is that it forces many to leave their guns at home. I wonder if that is already changing? This incident could very well have happened last year before Stop and Frisk was declared unconstitutional (which has since been partly overturned). But I suspect that what we will see is a police force phasing out the program and criminals feeling more comfortable carrying their guns. By anecdotal evidence, that is already happening as a result of the publicity around the program’s temporary loss in court.Also, it goes without saying that the real issue here is the morality of a young man who feels it acceptable to open fire in a park because someone did not turn over a jacket.

  7. Keith Keystone

    Congrats on the one year anniversary of this podcast. My favorite on Ricochet.

  8. Crow

    Jay and Mona: great podcast this week. City Journal is up there with National Affairs and the Claremont Review as my favorite conservative magazines and always glad to hear from Myron Magnet.

  9. Umbra Fractus

    Whatever Mr. Nordlinger was smoking that led him to speak highly of Pendercki’s Threnody, I want some. I just listened to it, and this doesn’t even qualify as music. I’ve heard death metal that was more tuneful. Blech.

  10. Nerina Bellinger

    Umbra, I think Jay said something about not being in love with the celli piece to which he was referring.  I could be wrong.

    Mona: regarding learning an instrument – I am 46 and began taking piano lessons 2 months ago.  Now, I have some musical knowledge since I played clarinet growing up, but playing with two hands and reading music in two clefs is mind-numbingly difficult for me, but I just keep banging away.  I’m working on Bach’s No. 8 Invention in F major and if my kids don’t sabotage the piano, it will be a miracle.  My 12 year old daughter, however (who plays both the viola and piano), learns pieces in 2 days!  I am impressed that your son was able to appreciate Messiaen.  I listened to it after my Latin Choir director recommended it me (he knows I have a pianist and a cellist in the house).  I couldn’t take it.  It reminded me a bit of Husa’s “Music for Prague” which I think falls in the same category of music as the Threnody – political music.

  11. Nerina Bellinger

    BTW, I may be in the minority, but I love the musical discussion in these podcasts.  I find myself often taking notes and finding music afterwards.  When all else is wrong with the world, I have music as a consolation.

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