Need To Know with Mona Charen and Jay Nordlinger
Episode 30: Let’s Get Big

Guest: Ricochet co-founder Rob Long
May 4, 2013
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This week on Need To Know, a familiar voice — Ricochet’s own Rob Long — stops by. They discuss the ever stranger Hollywood/DC nexus, how ill-equipped the Obama administration is to do the basics of the job, and how big a factor race plays in the perception of how he is judged. Then, Rob makes the case that Republicans are too small, too pure, and stand for too much (not to worry, Mona and Jay push back), and finally … the best-looking women Rob has ever seen. 

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  1. Astonishing

    Jay: Rob is a true intellectual, but no one has ever worn his education and erudition more lightly.

    . . .

    Rob: Maybe we should try not standing for anything.

    . . .

    Me: Lightly indeed.

  2. Tough room…

  3. Yeah...ok.

    Republicans – The party of NOthing

  4. Indaba

    Always a fascinating listen but waaaay too short!

  5. SpinozaCarWash

    Robbie George isn’t the only conservative professor at Princeton, but there are precious few…

  6. concerned citizen

    I get what Rob is saying about pulling in those who agree with 65% of what we say.  I really do.  

    The problem is that those areas where we disagree are the social issues.  These are not just political positions for us, but moral and religious ones.  It’s not like giving in on taxes or entitlements or immigration or whatever, where I could at least consider dealing.   I will never support abortion or SSM (and SSM’s ultimate goal, which will be to end religious freedom).   My deeply held religious beliefs make these stands non-negotiable.  

    So if, to get those who agree with us 65% of the time, I have to cave on those, I just cannot do it.   I also have confidence that ultimately we will be proven right on those issues.  How long that will take though, I don’t know….

    About your discussion of the inevitable crash of the Obama cult followers, thank you for giving me something to look forward to.  If only the schadenfreude were worth all the pain and suffering which we all experience with eight years of this guy.

  7. Benjamin Glaser

    Just because Jay keeps repeating “it was a very appealing ticket” doesn’t make it so. 

  8. Mr Tall

    Great podcast, with one mild disappointment.

    The conversation spiraled around the puzzling fact that Obama is terrible at being president, yet won re-election with relative ease. Jay finally hit on the reason I (and I suspect many others) find most salient: race, plain and simple. The racial redemption narrative was too powerful for Romney to overcome, resulting in millions of Americans voting in almost direct opposition to their interests and beliefs. Except for one belief, that is: that the votes of the sons and daughters can atone for the sins of the fathers.

    This explanation seems so obvious, yet it’s barely spoken of in popular discourse (especially rarely by Republican leading lights), and even Jay, Mona and Rob quickly changed the subject. I was hoping for more in-depth analysis of this question.

    It’s unlikely the Democrats’ candidate for president in 2016 will be black , but if Hilary runs, then the race narrative will be quickly retooled for sex, and we on the right will face the same nagging but powerful media/popular culture undertone: how dare you vote against the first woman to run! 

    Are we ready to deal with this?

  9. Hartmann von Aue

    “Very appealing ticket”. Uh, not really. 

    I am sorry to hear that the diversi-thugs are still harping on “white privilege” in universities. My response to it in grad school and faculty meetings was “Let’s get in my car and drive down to the trailer park on the east side and you can explain ‘white privilege’ to them. Tell them how being white has given them the unovercomeable advantage in American life. You’ve got medical coverage, right?”.  My response to the idiotic “where do you go to be a minority?” question that these creeps inevitably asked was “Church.” That tended to derail things quite well. 

  10. Full Size Tabby

    This is the second time I have heard Rob note that the true working people of “Hollywood” tend toward conservative. Hence, I was intrigued when walking past “base camp” of a major studio production that is filming in the city in which I work to note many “NOBama” and pro-second-amendment bumper stickers on the cars of the mechanics who are working there. The filming is of a chase scene for The Amazing Spiderman II.

  11. concerned citizen
    Full Size Tabby: This is the second time I have heard Rob note that the true working people of “Hollywood” tend toward conservative. Hence, I was intrigued when walking past “base camp” of a major studio production that is filming in the city in which I work to note many “NOBama” and pro-second-amendment bumper stickers on the cars of the mechanics who are working there. The filming is of a chase scene for The Amazing Spiderman II. · 15 hours ago

    I love this.   Leftists who always claim that our side only cares about fat cats and that they are the one who care about the little guy seem incapable of seeing the irony that is right under their noses.  

    Our side should do an ad campaign highlighting this delicious irony.   Make fun of that liberal shibboleth, rip the mask off.  Kind of like the Samsung ads making fun of Apple’s supposed advanced technology and hipness.     It might make some of these celebrity-obsessed low-info voters actually stop and think.

  12. Chris Campion

    Rob’s analogy regarding The Tent of Conservatism:

    He’s right.  But the analogy is wrong.  It’s not a tent.  A tent supposes limits to its capacity, and for, say, social conservatives to feel like they’re getting squeezed out (meaning there’s no room for them) defeats the whole idea of inclusion.  

    But I only mean that the tent analogy is flawed.  The idea itself is correct – we need to include everyone who more or less agrees with the basic ideas of conservatism.  Arguing over marginal tax rates is not going to get more people on Team Awesome – arguing about the amount of aggregate taxes people pay, for everything they consume, every day, might get more people on said Team, for example.

    We can’t talk of tents.  We want to include everyone, especially those people who are, essentially, waffles – waffles in the middle.  They are the ones who really would start looking askance at the enlargement of gov’t if they truly understood its scope.  Because the intrusion into our lives by the USG should frighten both a Progressive and a Conservative – but largely, it doesn’t sink in.

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