GLoP Culture with Goldberg, Long, and Podhoretz
Episode 12: I Am Not Ridiculous

Hosted by John Podhoretz, Jonah Goldberg, and Rob Long
Apr 25, 2013
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The podcast known as Goldberg, Long, and Podhoretz is always innovating, or as the kids call it, disrupting. This week, we put John Podhoretz in the driver’s seat of the GLoP bus and he steers us on a steady, smooth drive. The signposts this week: The Boston bombers and Ricin mailer, the press gets it wrong, terrorism in the age of Twitter, RINOs are good for the party, Big Bangs and great TV, and the elite media bubble/punditocracy is not the audience.

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  1. Benjamin Glaser

    Hallelujah!

  2. Joseph Eagar

    Can you please only put the direct link once?  More often than not, one of the links is broken.  Thanks.

  3. jeffp

    With Podhoretz in the driver’s seat, maybe it should be called Podhoretzcast?

  4. This is a bug in our publishing system. Sometimes the link is automatically inserted, sometimes it isn’t (usually for folks not logged in) so I add it manually just to be sure. And sometimes, yes, I forget to update the link from the last show. Both of these are correct, though. 

    Joseph Eagar: Can you please only put the direct link once?  More often than not, one of the links is broken.  Thanks. · 26 minutes ago

  5. Joseph Eagar
    Blue Yeti: This is a bug in our publishing system. Sometimes the link is automatically inserted, sometimes it isn’t (usually for folks not logged in) so I add it manually just to be sure. And sometimes, yes, I forget to update the link from the last show. Both of these are correct, though.  · 20 minutes ago

    Joseph Eagar: Can you please only put the direct link once?  More often than not, one of the links is broken.  Thanks. · 26 minutes ago

    The first one is broken; the URL is misspelled.

  6. das_motorhead

    Jonah’s terrorist list rant is one of the greatest sixty seconds in Ricochet podcast history.

  7. Frank Soto
    C

    This is EJHill’s finest work.  I can’t stop laughing.

  8. Duane Oyen

    Oh boy, I can’t wait to hear the confirmation of how us (alleged) RINOs are good for the Party!

  9. Leslie Watkins

    The Big Bang Theory is my absolutely favorite show. I think it’s terrific and sweet and extremely well written. The cast is perfect. The extra characters are perfect, and they’ve done a terrific job of incorporating real-life geeks, such as Neil DeGrassi Tyson, Steve Wozniak, even Stephen Hawking, into several episodes. Now they’re focusing on tenure, so who knows what’ll happen. I won’t be surprised if a lot more young people go into sciences because of Leonard Hofstadter and Sheldon Cooper. My only gripe is that they don’t have enough new episodes. Thanks for playing the entire theme song. Love Bare Naked Ladies too!

  10. Franco

    Rob is not ridiculous and he’s not a RINO. There can be no such thing because anyone, absolutely anyone can be a Republican. There is no Republican ideology. The party will not disavow anyone who claims him/herself one, or purge those who claim to be Republican whilst serially voting and endorsing left-wing Democrats over moderate Republicans (Colin Powell). Powell represents Republicans on Sunday shows with no complaints from Reince Prebius.  Conservatives do damage to themselves making the presumption that the GOP should be conservative by using this term. They would do better accepting that the GOP is not inherently conservative, IMO.

    JPod is correct in the history an origins of the word, yet he too seems to be conflating the term Republican and conservative. Many Republicans are not at all conservative. RINO has lost all meaning. However it becomes especially ridiculous when used as a reverse pejorative as Long does (maybe he actually is ridiculous, I dunno) 

    There is still the term WHINE-NO which I’ve used to describe Republicans who are skittish when it comes to critiquing the media. And I’ve previously called for the banning of the use of RINO here at Ricochet.

  11. Luozi
    ParisParamus: I broke up with a woman with the last straw, the signal of incompatibility being Big Bang Theory.  I must be a horrible person. · 7 hours ago

    I want to ‘like’ this comment, but I don’t know if it was she who watched the show or you.  Terrible show.  I’ll take an “elitist” show on HBO over that drivel any day of the week. 

  12. Yep, fixed. 

    Joseph Eagar

    The first one is broken; the URL is misspelled. · 1 hour ago

  13. Luozi

    I don’t understand Goldberg.  He really can’t contemplate people who want to move further to the right on issues which turn off so-called “moderates” (moderate = uninformed)?  It obviously depends on the issue, but I would argue that to go more to the right on many issues (including social) might actually show the GOP has some spine and isn’t going to cave to every leftist call for equality.

    He’s right about the TV show problem, though! 

  14. Joseph Eagar
    Blue Yeti: Yep, fixed. 

    Joseph Eagar

    The first one is broken; the URL is misspelled. · 1 hour ago

    6 minutes ago

    Thanks

  15. GKC
    Luozi: I don’t understand Goldberg.  He really can’t contemplate people who want to move further to the right on issues which turn off so-called “moderates” (moderate = uninformed)?  It obviously depends on the issue, but I would argue that to go more to the right on many issues (including social) might actually show the GOP has some spine and isn’t going to cave to every leftist call for equality.

    He’s right about the TV show problem, though!  · 10 minutes ago

    Edited 9 minutes ago

    But Jonah is correct that the issue isn’t the need for conservatives to hunker down and be more conservative on principle.  The issue is persuasion.  Republicans have not a RINO problem or a purity purge issue.  They have a problem of persuasion.  There was a post on the Corner about Mike Lee’s speech at Heritage, and his use of terms liberals have appropriated — community, togetherness, etc.  This is the language we need to use again as part of convincing that “he/she cares about me” crowd.  

  16. Franco

    Podhoretz is way off base. I suppose people can call themselves conservative if they so choose and this is what is causing all the problems, because people who aren’t conservative wish to claim the term because it is popular with a lot of people who tend to vote for Republicans. There is flood-the-zone strategy with language that makes it impossible to adequately communicate. Damage conservatisim by claiming you, too are a conservative.  Words come to mean everything and anything. This has the effect of rendering the term meaningless if it isn’t policed and defended. If a lot of conservatives don’t think a given person is conservative, they have a duty to say so.

     I could claim to be a liberal, but what I really mean is a Classic Liberal, which is actually the opposite of todays run of the mill “liberal” as Ann Coulter would use the term. So all of my beliefs are well within the scope of liberalism, although to refer to myself as one, without clarification would be misleading.

  17. Franco

    Rob has been on this subject of how Democrats, being a broad coalition without any real ideology ( I would also take issue with that aspect) have managed to pass so much legislation in the last 40 years, omits the complicity of the media, academia and Republicans themselves!

    Democrats have passed these bills because they are all default socialists and for bigger government. All that’s needed are enough Republicans, bribed, duped or otherwise corrupt, to go along.

    The role of the media cannot be dismissed. It was/is a huge factor.  

  18. Joseph Eagar
    Douglas: While you can make an argument that there should be no such thing as a RINO, it’s patently silly to argue that you can’t or shouldn’t define conservative. You have to define the principles of an ideology, and declare that certain things are in opposition to that ideology (and thus point out that it makes no sense to call someone conservative when they advocate unconservative things). You can make a big tent argument for a political party, but not an ideological movement. · 6 hours ago

    Well, technically conservatism is a coalition of ideological movements, not one single ideology.  Though of course, they are woven together and interrelated to a certain extent.

  19. Franco

    But you can’t persuade people if *distinguished* Senators like John McCain go on Meet the Press, and every other Sunday show, decrying extremism in the GOP. While those who do that get a pass themselves, (and a lot of attention from the press, not-so-coincidentally) the overall message to the public is that Republicans are extremists and even some in their own party say so!

    In today’s low information, logically challenged electorate, one Republican denouncing “his own” party is worth 100 Democrats saying the same thing. Furthermore, when these cretins aren’t saying something negative about their own party in public, they are counted on panels as a balancing element. That is, here on This Week, we have one Democrat, one ‘independent” (stealth Democrat) one pundit (stealth democrat) and one Republican, John Mc Cain (or David Frum, or Colin Powell, etc) and the host is the uber-Democrat, the now journalistically closeted George Stephanopoulis! It is theater. It would be considered a farce on the level of Moliere if it were on a stage in France. And the GOP provides the casting directors a steady stream of wannabees.

  20. Rightfromthestart

    Why do we distrust RINOs?  Because in the end, when it counts they always betray us. Democrats knew then and know now that in the end, regardless of what was said for the cameras  Moynihan,  Lieberman and the rest of the ‘reasonable’ Democrats will vote the party line. We expect that our ‘moderate’ Republicans will , when it counts , ‘reach across the aisle’ and betray us. We’ve seen it too many times. Thus we are very sensitive to seeing the people we’ve worked to elect suddenly go wobbly, Democrats are much more confident that their North Korean style party discipline will hold.  Conservatives are like an eternally betrayed spouse.

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