The Ricochet Podcast
Episode 147a: Founders Podcast #1

Rob Long, Peter Robinson, Dr. George Savage, Ricochet CEO TOdd Lowdon, and Blue Yeti
Dec 17, 2012
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The response to the “The End of Ricochet?” post was so overwhelming, we put together the Ricochet brain trust to respond to some of the comments and questions raised there. With Rob Long, Peter Robinson, Dr. George Savage, Ricochet CEO Todd Lowdon, and yours truly, Blue Yeti. 

Ricochet members, you’ll get this show in your regular Ricochet Podcast feed, everyone else please listen in above. Direct link here

The response to the “The End of Ricochet” post was so overwhelming, we put together the Ricochet brain trust to respond to some of the comments and questions there.

UPDATE: Contrary to what you’ll hear in this podcast, we have a new, easy-to-use gift membership form!

Whether you are a member or a non-member, you can click on that link and give memberships to your heart’s content.

  1. Israel P.

    You might want to consider putting that Archimedes quote on the logo, under “right people, right tone, right place.”

  2. Nick Stuart

    Heartened that we’re not at the novenna to St. Jude stage which is good because I’m a Protestant & I’m not sure how I’d work that out.

  3. CuriousJohn
    FeliciaB

    CuriousJohn: I feel better after listening to the Townhall podcast. We need more of them.  FYI  I struck while the iron was hot and setup a WordPress id so when the new platform  its ready.  I’ll be able to move in.  Since CuriousJohn was already taken at WordPress, I was forced to come up with a new handle, so I grabbed

    http://ricochetti.wordpress.com

    What does this mean, CJ? · 6 hours ago

    I’m just saying, go to WordPress.com and Register for the Username “FeliciaB” so you can use it as your handle on the new Ricochet platform, when it shows up.   Because the current platform has a expiration date (which only the PTB know), That’s assuming we’ll make it to February, which I believe, we will.

  4. CitizenOfTheRepublic

    ok…on minute 10.  wow!  that is a terrible process for processing gift memberships.  how is any casual user of the site even supposed to know that?

    traffic of any size on the web flow through paths of least resistance.  take pennies from 100′s of k’s by making it easy.

    the rabid hoard that commented on the “dying Ricochet” thread, need the easy path to give you $100s and $1000s of dollars to show their loyalty, belonging.

    that is a business on the web.  

    </shouting on the table until you listen!  ;)

  5. Jimmy Carter

    Um, there is a button, Fellas, called “Contact” at the very bottom of the page.

    I’ve used it a few times Myself…. and have never failed to get a response.

  6. CitizenOfTheRepublic

    oh…also…re-amplifying the point about the inconsistent release of podcasts.  Rob keeps saying this is a business.  so act like it!  

    ALL podcasts have to have some regular schedule.  If not weekly, then with a known date of the next episode. 

    If you say my membership is buying a product, then you owe me a consistent product.

    :D  but, my critic by darned, i shall say this again:  you are not selling a discrete, product in which each unit consumed costs the same to produce; Ricochet ain’t no widget.  get your minds straight.

  7. CitizenOfTheRepublic

    that is not how any professional website that succeeds works.  is it?  please provide examples.  does Glenn Reynolds need you to contact him to know how to give him money?  does NoAgendaShow.com?  does Adam Carolla? does TWiT.tv?  [edit: i double checked after original posting: each of these have a donate or tip button on the front page; Leo Laporte is running a business...more so than Ricochet; go look at http://www.twit.tv to see a professional operation].

    Jimmy Carter: Um, there is a button, Fellas, called “Contact” at the very bottom of the page.

    I’ve used it a few times Myself…. and have never failed to get a response. · 3 minutes ago

  8. iWc

    Ricochet must be able to put a Gift Ricochet link at the top, where we can buy Ricochet membership for others.

    Without this, not only is considerable money being left on the table, but those of us who run businesses for a living can only conclude that Ricochet is a perfect example of the limits of letting pundits run the asylum.

  9. Jimmy Carter

    Hay, Citizen, I was just responding to Peter’s statement (it was a question, I think) there wasn’t a “button” on the Home Page to contact Them. Relax.

  10. CitizenOfTheRepublic

    Sorry, Jimmy…i wasn’t angry.  i even left off an intial “um” in response.  as I mentioned on the GLoP podcast thread, i am trying to keep these podcasts going for the rest of my natural life.  it is just painful to see them not getting how to make a lot of money on the internet.

    Jimmy Carter: Hay, Citizen, I was just responding to Peter’s statement (it was a question, I think) there wasn’t a “button” on the Home Page to contact Them. Relax. · 3 minutes ago

  11. Katie O

    Citizen, I didn’t say anything in the “end” thread, because I’m afraid it could be taken the wrong way no matter how I word it.. but here goes….You seem like a guy with some good ideas, more people will listen if you stop using all caps. Please. It’s against the Code of Conduct to boot. 

  12. CitizenOfTheRepublic

    thanks…didn’t know about all caps.  i’ll weasel out of it…i’m talking to Rob like Rob has been talking to anyone who notices extreme media bias.  ;)

    [edited addition] oh…also.  i don’t have good ideas – these ideas have surfaced from the evolution of the internet.  a guy at work “turned me on to” twit.tv in 2009; that whole network is about technology and the web; it is a very successful podcasting network which often has the topic of how to be successful on the internet.  i’d like to know if anyone at Ricochet listens to any shows on TWiT.  if not, they are negligent.

    Katie O: Citizen, I didn’t say anything in the “end” thread, because I’m afraid it could be taken the wrong way no matter how I word it.. but here goes….You seem like a guy with some good ideas, more people will listen if you stop using all caps. Please. It’s against the Code of Conduct to boot.  · 2 minutes ago

  13. Lucy Pevensie
    Thom Williams:It seems with a modicum of awareness or research you could have tapped into some business and web development expertise and figured out how to avoid some of the obvious problems you would encounter and to deal with many of the problems that have arisen that should be pretty easily fixable. Who made the decision about this awful platform the site is built on? After three years you’re making a big overhaul, and the amazing improvement is that you’re going to WordPress?? Get some capital and get some pros to help you guys. Good grief.  ·

    I know nothing about whether WordPress is the right solution, or anything else. But, for the love of God and Ricochet, please don’t compound your earlier mistakes, whatever they were, by committing to a specific new direction before you’ve taken all the collective wisdom here into account. 

  14. Katie O

    Not your fault, the code is as well hidden as the store! Thanks for not taking it the wrong way. I was worried you might think I was trying to antagonize you since I’m the one who loves JPod :) 

  15. CitizenOfTheRepublic

    JPod’s JPod…he’s great in small doses.  however, he engages in conversations in the same manner, i do: interrupting and dominating; always pushing his  response to what the other speaker has said even before they can finish their thought.  I don’t have to like it in podcasts just because i do it privately.  :D

    also…still makes me laugh to think of it… once he gave me a “you must be fun at parties” reply on Twitter when i argued with him.  i’m not a big fan of “shut up, he explained” argumentation.  still, i took it well because i thought he was in need of a mirror.  ;)

    Katie O: Not your fault, the code is as well hidden as the store! Thanks for not taking it the wrong way. I was worried you might think I was trying to antagonize you since I’m the one who loves JPod :)  · 0 minutes ago

  16. CitizenOfTheRepublic

    omg…i’m at the end of the podcast…and helping the Ricochet “business” is still seen as giving a gift subscription??? renewing early???

    [imagine all caps with what follows...hehehehe  (is this a CoC violation???)  :P ] donations!!! tips!!!

     businesses on the web take donations from their members, supporters, fans, whatever…from the masses of users, members, …even people who don’t want to be members, but want to leave a tip.  

    waitresses… my dear mother…worked for tips…in a business, called a restaurant.

    omg…you all will be the death of me with this stubborn resistance to accepting easy money.

  17. genferei
    CuriousJohn I’m just saying, go to WordPress.com and Register for the Username “FeliciaB” so you can use it as your handle on the new Ricochet platform, when it shows up. 

    I am highly confident that this is not how it is going to work. If the site is ported over to WordPress (the codebase, not the WordPress.com site) all the existing usernames, history etc. will be migrated across, too.

  18. Robert Dammers

    Peter, how could you not know how much members care about Ricochet?Certainly the conversation explains the emphasis on early renewal – but had we know about the cash flow issue, members would have known what to do to help. Similarly, if we are a community, perhaps we can be less coy about the numbers involved (I’ve been wondering about Ricochet membership levels since signing up to the Facebook page before the website). After all, we’re not in *economic* but *ideological* competition with sites like the Daily Kos – we have skin in the game with Ricochet, so share some of the concerns, and we’ll do our best to pull our weight. Even those of us who are not Americans.We can breath again, right? You’re not going to shut down without giving us a chance to help fix it?

  19. Caroline

    WordPress.com and the code that Ricochet may use from WordPress.org are related but not the same thing. WordPress.com is a blogging site like Typepad or Blogger. If Ricochet uses the code at WordPress.org, they likely will use similar authentication as they are now and porting the usernames and passwords would likely be a consideration in their decision.

  20. CitizenOfTheRepublic – First off, you’ll be happy to know that not only is Leo LaPorte an old friend of mine from his days on TechTV, The Ricochet Podcast was directly inspired by TWIT, (a fact that makes Leo, a lefty from way back, chuckle to no end) which I have been a listener of since it’s debut. In fact our entire network of shows follows the Twit.TV model pioneered by Leo. 

    But Twit’s business is very different than ours. Leo’s network was built on and until recently almost fully subsidized by his weekly national radio show. Without that show (rightly very popular), Twit would not exist. 

    We have no such sugar daddy. We are building this thing from scratch with no big media partner (not for lack of trying, I can assure you). That said, we very recently received an overture from a national radio service that is interested in carrying some of our shows. We are going to sit down with them right after the holidays ad if anything transpires, we’ll let you know. 

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