The Ricochet Podcast
Episode 158: Filibuster!

Guests: Pat Sajak and Mickey Kaus
Mar 7, 2013
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After a brief hiatus, the Ricochet Podcast returns this week with our old friends Pat Sajak and Mickey Kaus. We talk filibusters, drones, that dinner with the President, democracy Twitter-style, the benefits of free online courses, sequestration, immigration, and tax cuts. It’s a veritable verbal verisimilitude of vocal viscosity — in other words, our own homegrown filibuster. 

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  1. EJHill
    The Ricochet Podcast  Democracy turns on EJHill.

    Well, that and Jean Arthur.

  2. Eugene Kriegsmann

    I am currently signed up for and participating in my fourth Hillsdale class. About half way though my first class I began to resent the inadequacies of my own college education and then the absurdity of the education my son received doing his Bachelor’s degree at the University of Washington in the 1990s. 

    Listening to several hours of Senator Rand Pauls filibuster yesterday felt like one of the Hillsdale lectures. The classes I took with Hillsdale made the entire discussion totally relevant in a way it never would have been prior to taking those classes.

  3. Benjamin Glaser

    Abraham Lincoln was wrong to allow Sherman and Sheridan to indiscriminately kill civilians. As was FDR in allowing the incineration of German cities. 

  4. David Knights
    Benjamin Glaser: SNIP

     As was FDR in allowing the incineration of German cities.  · 7 minutes ago

    Huh?  American “precision” daylight bombing, while hardly civilian casualty-free, was a model of how to conduct stratigic bombing while trying to minimize civilian casualties.  Given the enemy’s willingness to wage war against the allies war making industries, the allies had no choice but to do the same.  Failure to do so woudl have allowed the Germans to develop the V-1, V-2, Me-262 etc. in peace.  The war woudl have been much different without the attacks on the industries developing those weapons.

    P.S. Both Curtis LeMay and “Bomber” Harris get a bum wrap.  They did the right thing, as did Truman in dropping the A-bombs.

  5. Leslie Watkins

    I miss Mickey.

  6. Basil Fawlty

    Before Peter enthuses too much about tax-cutting Republican governors, he needs to look to Virginia, where our Republican governor just engineered an increase in the state sales tax.  In Northern Virginia, it’s a twenty percent increase.

  7. EJHill

    And the John McCain goes to the Senate floor and says this, “If Mr. Paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids.”

    Yeah, we’d hate to bring liberty-loving young people into the Republican Party, wouldn’t we. What we really need is more old, white establishment types. That’ll win the future…

  8. Barbara Kidder
    Benjamin Glaser: Abraham Lincoln was wrong to allow Sherman and Sheridan to indiscriminately kill civilians. As was FDR in allowing the incineration of German cities.  · 2 hours ago

    What about FDR’s internment of over 100,000 Japanese Americans in ‘War Relocation Camps’?

  9. Barbara Kidder
    EJHill: And the John McCain goes to the Senate floor and says this, “If Mr. Paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids.”

    Yeah, we’d hate to bring liberty-loving young people into the Republican Party, wouldn’t we. What we really need is more old, white establishment types. That’ll win the future… · 2 hours ago

    Edited 2 hours ago

    He makes a good case for term limits and age limits!

  10. Daniel Halbach

    Funny how we all had difficulty sitting through the State of the Union Address for 45 minutes, but we can watch a Rand Paul filibuster for hours.

  11. Eleanor

    I recall a segment about attracting voters. And the reality check comment that the ethnic vote is not going the Republican candidate way.

    Republicans and conservatives, for those who might soon turn to a conservative third party, need to get it firmly in mind: most of the ethnic and race breakout groups vote only along the race and ethnic eye view. Even where the facts are not helpful to support the case of say, Medicare being solvent even though the funds are being pulled from it to go to the Affordable Care fund scheme, the hard-core groups will not see it or hear it and are actively campaigning for the president’s not-helping-Medicare plan. I can hardly imagine a payout that can be given to secure the votes from groups who are bound soley based on race or ethnic group, or probably gender and sexual preference.

  12. Barbara Kidder
    Eleanor:

     I can hardly imagine a payout that can be given to secure the votes from groups who are bound soley based on race or ethnic group, or probably gender and sexual preference. · 2 minutes ago

    I agree with you that, “most of the ethnic and race breakout groups vote only along the race and ethnic eye view” (even when the facts do not support the logic of their choice).

    If our Republican leaders spend the next three years chasing after a ‘rainbow’, by attempting to compete with President Obama and democrats in Congress over which party can be more ‘generous’ to minorities and undocumented immigrants, we will just be accelerating our descent into financial ruin, as a nation. 

    Our message has to be loud and long:

    ‘A rising tide floats all boats’!

  13. Jimmy Carter

    “And tomorrow We’ll experience ‘ ‘Partly Cloudy’ Trisha.’ Temperatures near 73 and winds 5-8 mph with gusts up to 12.”

  14. Daniel Halbach
    “We need an expert more than we need an expert to be correct.” – Rob Long

    So true.  I will probably use this line later and forget the attribution.

    Jame’s Hillsdale segue: amazing as always.  I’ve started playing the “Guess when James is starting a seque” game.  (I’m usually wrong.)

    BTW, the Hillsdale course may be free, but they sure put a lot of effort into hitting us up for donations.  And they are asking for a lot more than a Grande Latte.

  15. Rob Long
    C
    Eugene Kriegsmann: I am currently signed up for and participating in my fourth Hillsdale class. About half way though my first class I began to resent the inadequacies of my own college education and then the absurdity of the education my son received doing his Bachelor’s degree at the University of Washington in the 1990s. 

    Listening to several hours of Senator Rand Pauls filibuster yesterday felt like one of the Hillsdale lectures. The classes I took with Hillsdale made the entire discussion totally relevant in a way it never would have been prior to taking those classes. · 6 hours ago

    I feel the same way!  I’ve made a mental note, though, never to say this around my father, who spend a lot of money on that education.

  16. Robert Dammers

    I thought that waterboarding had only be used 3 times, but two of those were on KSM. So only 2 individuals.

  17. Miffed White Male

    One of the podcasters mentioned at the end that the CBO has identified $300 billion or so of duplicative programs.

     

    Why don’t the Republicans already have a bill on the floor of the House eliminating/consolidating those?  Afraid they might actually gain some credibility?

  18. Peter Meza

    I loved Rob’s point about Liberal hypocrisy (don’t we always love hearing about that?).  Homelessness, drones, wiretaps, Gitmo, or whatever is not really the issue, the excuse to make political points is really that actual issue.  It is downright shocking sometimes to get sucked in to thinking that some issues are key core Liberal beliefs, only to find out that they are easily jettisoned without a comment once their guy is in office.  There are no core Liberal beliefs except to acquire power over you and me.

  19. Leigh
    Miffed White Male: One of the podcasters mentioned at the end that the CBO has identified $300 billion or so of duplicative programs.

     

    Why don’t the Republicans already have a bill on the floor of the House eliminating/consolidating those?  Afraid they might actually gain some credibility? · March 9, 2013 at 12:09am

    Pretty sure they actually have been doing some of that sort of thing. 

  20. Scott Abel

    I found that to be a rather bizarre podcast while discussing the filibuster. Rob Long stated that the people who are concerned about the particular issue of the drone strikes are “nuts” (and the rest of the podcast crew agreed with him), but then discussed the ways in which civil liberties in the US have been abused.

    Well, which is it?

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