Join Jim and Greg as they applaud Australia for ending its extradition agreement with Hong Kong and extending visas for Hong Kong residents in Australia over China’s crackdown on freedoms. They also discuss New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman urging Joe Biden to refuse debating President Trump unless Trump agrees to a couple of very unlikely demands. And they wince as CNN’s Don Lemon demonstrates just how little he knows about the most basic tenets of belief for tens of millions of Americans.

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  1. Arahant Member
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    Could really have some fun poking a stick in China’s eye over Hong Kong.

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    Hasn’t Biden been getting cosmetic surgery and botox and what-not, so he doesn’t look geriatric any more?  Yes, he still looks very creepy.  But in a different way.

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
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    I suppose if you figure that Hong Kong is basically doomed, then getting the “best and brightest” out of there makes sense.  But as you guys say, giving visas and possibly citizenship to the most vocal protestors etc, has the effect of “draining” Hong Kong of the very people who might be able to turn things around.

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  4. JuliaBlaschke Lincoln
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    I suppose if you figure that Hong Kong is basically doomed, then getting the “best and brightest” out of there makes sense. But as you guys say, giving visas and possibly citizenship to the most vocal protestors etc, has the effect of “draining” Hong Kong of the very people who might be able to turn things around.

    Nobody can turn Hong Kong around. China is brutal and relentless.

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  5. WilliamDean Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    I suppose if you figure that Hong Kong is basically doomed, then getting the “best and brightest” out of there makes sense. But as you guys say, giving visas and possibly citizenship to the most vocal protestors etc, has the effect of “draining” Hong Kong of the very people who might be able to turn things around.

    Unless someone is willing to send armed forces to defend Hong Kong, that ship has sailed.

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  6. Taras Coolidge
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    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    I suppose if you figure that Hong Kong is basically doomed, then getting the “best and brightest” out of there makes sense. But as you guys say, giving visas and possibly citizenship to the most vocal protestors etc, has the effect of “draining” Hong Kong of the very people who might be able to turn things around.

    Nobody can turn Hong Kong around. China is brutal and relentless.

    It has been cogently pointed out that, at one time, Hong Kong represented a significant chunk of the Chinese GNP.

    However, market reforms on the mainland have made Hong Kong much less important to the Chinese government than it was when the treaty was written.

    In other words, they can afford to wreck it now.

     

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    I suppose if you figure that Hong Kong is basically doomed, then getting the “best and brightest” out of there makes sense. But as you guys say, giving visas and possibly citizenship to the most vocal protestors etc, has the effect of “draining” Hong Kong of the very people who might be able to turn things around.

    Nobody can turn Hong Kong around. China is brutal and relentless.

    It has been cogently pointed out that, at one time, Hong Kong represented a significant chunk of the Chinese GNP.

    However, market reforms on the mainland have made Hong Kong much less important to the Chinese government than it was when the treaty was written.

    In other words, they can afford to wreck it now.

    Is that a Disney movie that would never be made?  “Wreck It Xi?”

     

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  8. WilliamDean Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    I suppose if you figure that Hong Kong is basically doomed, then getting the “best and brightest” out of there makes sense. But as you guys say, giving visas and possibly citizenship to the most vocal protestors etc, has the effect of “draining” Hong Kong of the very people who might be able to turn things around.

    Nobody can turn Hong Kong around. China is brutal and relentless.

    It has been cogently pointed out that, at one time, Hong Kong represented a significant chunk of the Chinese GNP.

    However, market reforms on the mainland have made Hong Kong much less important to the Chinese government than it was when the treaty was written.

    In other words, they can afford to wreck it now.

    And Xi had already shown his hand in previous actions that right now he’s choosing tighter social control over a stronger economy. He thinks he can weather the economic storm better than the societal storm.

    Remember, the CCP is even more scared of the chinese people than the people are of them.

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