Blue Yeti · Dec 13, 2011 at 3:56pm
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The Young Guns return, this week with our guest The Atlantic's Conor Friedersdorf (please hold your applause until the end of the post). This week's topics read like the guest list at a very weird but strangely hip restaurant: Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Alec Baldwin, and Donald Trump. All that and new "Culture Shock" and "Heroes and Villains." You get your money's worth on this podcast, folks. 

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Michael Tee
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Michael Tee

Conor Friedersdorf? Really? Couldn't you find an actual conservative?

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Was Debra Saunders not available? How about Yuval Levin? Ramesh Ponnuru?

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You should ask Mark Levin, Star Parker, et al. 

Blue Yeti

Mark Levin is many things, but young is not one of them.

Jerry Broaddus
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Jerry Broaddus
Blue Yeti: Mark Levin is many things, but young is not one of them. · Dec 13 at 5:15pm

Bite yer tongue, whippersnapper.

Diane Ellis, Ed.

Jerry Broaddus

Blue Yeti: Mark Levin is many things, but young is not one of them. · Dec 13 at 5:15pm

Bite yer tongue, whippersnapper. · Dec 13 at 5:38pm

Blue Yeti's no spring chicken either :)

Diane Ellis, Ed.
Michael Tee: Conor Friedersdorf? Really? Couldn't you find an actual conservative?

Well, you may be surprised to hear Conor heap effusive praise on Tea Party darling Rand Paul this episode. 

And if you're like me, you'll also like Keith's repudiation of some peoples' tendencies toward the circular firing squad.

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

Diane Ellis, Ed.

Michael Tee: Conor Friedersdorf? Really? Couldn't you find an actual conservative?

Well, you may be surprised to hear Conor heap effusive praise on Tea Party darling Rand Paul this episode. 

And if you're like me, you'll also like Keith's repudiation of some peoples' tendencies toward the circular firing squad. · Dec 13 at 5:49pm

There's nothing wrong with circular firing squads, as long as there is someone outside the circle. Someone sane, I mean.

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

Diane Ellis, Ed.

Michael Tee: Conor Friedersdorf? Really? Couldn't you find an actual conservative?

Well, you may be surprised to hear Conor heap effusive praise on Tea Party darling Rand Paul this episode. 

From Wisconsin!

Or maybe he meant Ron Johnson. Who knows?

Quixotic
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Quixotic

[Comment removed for violating both the letter and spirit of Ricochet's CoC]

Edited on Dec 13, 2011 at 6:43pm
Mel Foil
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etoiledunord
Quixotic: [Comment removed by an editor]

As long as there's a Keith Obermann or a Chris Matthews around, the title is safely theirs.

Edited on Dec 13, 2011 at 6:44pm
QuickerBrownFox
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QuickerBrownFox

I hope you have Conor on more, I really like his stuff. I would much rather Ricochet be a market for conservative ideas, including alternative ones, than a filter for them. 

anon_academic
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anon_academic

Diane Ellis, Ed.

Well, you may be surprised to hear Conor heap effusive praise on Tea Party darling Rand Paul this episode. 

I'm not surprised at all given that Conor is a fairly staunch libertarian. (It seems like half his blog posts are either about libertarian issues or politicians). 

I also want to second QuickerBrownFox that I'm very glad to hear him on the podcast. I mean that partly in that I like Conor personally. (And it's not that I agree with him on everything, my own politics are more conventionally conservative). More importantly, I like the idea of Ricochet including people who are basically on the right but have misgivings about various substantive or stylistic tendencies. I would lose all interest in the podcast and the site in general were they to be dominated by people who substitute volume for argument --- I can already get that on cable or the radio and keep my price of a grande latte. Actually, the thing I like best about Conor is the running theme he's been working for a few years about policing our own house for vituperative demagoguery.

Edited on Dec 13, 2011 at 7:30pm
Sisyphus
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Sisyphus

My views on Conor more closely align with John Woo's as expressed on Law Talk. There is ample fodder for the Friedersdorf market at the Atlantic.

Charley Davis
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Charley Davis

Where can I find the Ricochet Code of Conduct, because I'd like to skate very close to the edge in expressing my disgust for the condescension expressed by these Young Punks.  There is no hope for the future of Conservatism if these are the next generation of "thought" leaders. 

genferei
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genferei

Conor was fun. But to hear Ms Clyne decry the politico-entertainment complex on a podcast with interstitial music seems, ummm, odd.

The CoC is linked at the bottom of every page.

Leslie Watkins
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Leslie Watkins

I'd like to join in the pro-Conor chorus and agree with genferei about Miss Clyne. I think one podcast not long ago (I could be wrong) she mentioned Maureen Dowd as an overrated pundit. Although I completely agree with Miss Clyne about Newt (not that it matters, but I've noted before that I will never vote for him) I think she comes pretty close to coming off like Miss Dowd. If by "anti-intellectual" and "insane" she means someone who's willing to go against the folderal that has been created by the intellectual elites of this country, state and federal, please, so brand me, with a red-hot poker.

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

Leslie Watkins:

 If by "anti-intellectual" and "insane" she means someone who's willing to go against the folderal that has been created by the intellectual elites of this country, state and federal, please, so brand me, with a red-hot poker. · Dec 14 at 5:58am

Thanks. I hear the charge of anti-intellectualism enough from the left. When leftists say it, what they mean is "we think you're a bunch of dirty rednecks." To hear it leveled at conservatives from people who are allegedly conservative made me ground off a few molars.

Please be careful with your words, peeps.

My wife walked into my office while I was listening to the podcast, listened to it for a bit, and then asked "These people are on our side? Are you sure?"

Edited on Dec 14, 2011 at 8:32am
Lucy Pevensie
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Lucy Pevensie

 Thanks for the warning, all.  Sounds as though I can just skip this Young Guns.

Give Me Liberty
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Give Me Liberty

Anti-intellectual charge - lame

Rush is responsible for Mitch Daniels staying out of presidential race - really lame and pandering.

Both almost as lame as Alec Baldwin complaining about airline regulations foisted on us by his big government loving pals the Dems.


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BThompson

I love, love Megan Clyne! Elitists rule!!

Seriously, we shouldn't listen to George Will and Charles Krauthammer because they're just establishment squishes? The "purists" who won't take up thoughtful arguments because the people making them have been around for awhile and they use big words is really getting out of hand.

Edited on Dec 14, 2011 at 12:36pm
anon_academic
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anon_academic
BThompson: I love, love Megan Clyne! Elitists rule!!

Absolutely, I cheered to my ipod when she gave her "without apology" speech about how conservatives should be elitists rather than populist know-nothings.


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