You'll Never Guess Who Republicans Want Romney to Pick as His VP
Republicans aren't over Rick Santorum yet. A new Reuters/Ipsos poll reveals that
[e]ighteen percent of Republican registered voters picked former Pennsylvania Senator Santorum out of a list of 19 potential running mates for Romney, the party's presumptive presidential nominee in the November 6 general election.
Runners up include Marco Rubio, who was named by 17% of those surveyed, and Chris Christie and Jeb Bush who tied for third with 13% support.
I know I shouldn't be surprised. After all, he campaigned for months, won a handful of primary contests, and has even more name recognition at this present moment among Republicans than do well known figures like Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, or Chris Christie. But this just seems an awkward fit to me.
Romney/Santorum, anyone?
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Apr '12
Re: You'll Never Guess Who Republicans Want Romney to Pick as His VP
Santorum would be political suicide.Last night, I was at a corporate event with an American bank and the wife of a client of mine who is American. There was alcohol served and my client's wife treated it like water from a hosepipe on a summer day. The two bankers are American women. They started onto American politics as we are in Toronto. Somehow, politics is no longer taboo. Their conversation would make a good Rhino Squish intervention podcast. They loved talking about how Republicans are old white and banning women from birth control and wanting to control their bodies. Thanks to Ricochet, I threw in some questions like, who is preventing birth control? Isn't a freedom of religion issue, not banning, cost to business, etc.They did not want ANY logic. These women have a rage for white males and they get an enormous rush from being victims against these horrible men. "they will try and take away our right to vote!" Yes. Indeed. I asked if they thought they would be forced back to the kitchen and home to have babies. Yes, they all said, like Stepford Wives. No reasoning, no rational.
Aug '10
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Or ... 81% of Republicans would rather have anybody but Santorum as the Vice-Presidential nominee.
Aug '10
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I still say Tom Ridge would be the #1, blue plate special, electable-as-all-get-out, best choice ... except that he's disqualified because he's pro-choice.
Feb '11
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Come on, Fred. Ricochet is better than this. How about some substantive criticism; I'm sure you can bang out one or two persuasive sentences letting us know why you feel the way you do rather than this Tourette's style tirade. You may end up actually enlightening someone with a different viewpoint.
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And not just pro-choice but can take credit for his personal involvement in the expansion of the federal government and profiting off the same, too!
Feb '11
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Mark Wilson
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I'm sympathetic to Santorum because I understand he's not a theocrat, but he has a serious articulation and image problem in public communications.
I agree with you Mark. Santorum does have an image problem (among others). I'm not so sure that a charming Tony Snow type would draw any less flak than Santorum, though, because the other trouble we face is that it seems that "now" is never quite the right time to begin the process of persuasion that Rob talked about a few weeks ago; better to bury the contentious issues so that we can focus on "winning" by not alienating the delicate moderates. Of course there's something to that theory, but it's also true that we'll never see any fruit until we actually begin toiling in the garden. In order to persuade we need to begin making arguments.
Apr '11
Re: You'll Never Guess Who Republicans Want Romney to Pick as His VP
Let's look at it from a different demographic. Hispanics are devoutly religious and mostly Catholic. Santorum is devoutly religious and Catholic. Hence, may it be the case that Santorum, being Catholic, is a better choice than say, Rubio, who is of Cuban descent and not Latin American Descent.
Apr '11
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Faith and religious beliefs should never be "left at the door". They are the basis for ethical and moral standards. That said, your faith and beliefs should never be forced upon me and vice-versa. Most of the founding fathers were devoutly religious men and they never left those beliefs at the door. Many came to this continent to be able to express them freely and openly. The first amendment restrains the government from "establishing" or "restricting practice of" a religion.
Any candidate who leaves his faith and religion, no matter which religion, at the door will NEVER receive my vote, endorsement, or support.
Mar '11
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Indaba: Santorum would be political suicide...
...Yes. Indeed. I asked if they thought they would be forced back to the kitchen and home to have babies. Yes, they all said, like Stepford Wives. No reasoning, no rational. · 4 hours ago
OK, so on one hand, you say Santorum would be suicide because he turns these women off. Then you give quotes from them that pretty much conclusively prove that they're locked into the feminist narrative no matter what. Eh?
If anything, you just proved that suicide is trying to shape our ticket according to the whims of people that are dead set against us anyway.
Mar '11
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Boots on the Table
Let's look at it from a different demographic. Hispanics are devoutly religious and mostly Catholic. Santorum is devoutly religious and Catholic. Hence, may it be the case that Santorum, being Catholic, is a better choice than say, Rubio, who is of Cuban descent and not Latin American Descent. · 20 minutes ago
Except that, like many Anglo Catholics, they profess one thing religiously and then vote in another direction. How many times has Nancy Pelosi gushed about her love for Catholicism? And yet she votes like Richard Dawkins.
Apr '11
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Douglas
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Except that, like many Anglo Catholics, they profess one thing religiously and then vote in another direction. How many times has Nancy Pelosi gushed about her love for Catholicism? And yet she votes like Richard Dawkins. · 9 minutes ago
How true. However, Nancy Pelosi only professes to having a belief. Nothing she does leads me to believe that she actually believes. People have been professing belief in a higher power since the beginning of time. It is our job to determine the difference between those who actually hold with a belief and those that only profess to having one.
Mar '11
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Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
And not just pro-choice but can take credit for his personal involvement in the a href="http://www.dhs.gov/xabout/history/
Edit: I had no idea what happened here, but it double posted (correct post is below). I got a big "preview error" when it happened, and then both posts appeared. Weird. Doing this on a WinXP Pro box using Chrome.
Edited on May 4, 2012 at 6:01pmMar '11
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Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
And not just pro-choice but can take credit for his personal involvement in the expansion of the federal government and profiting off the same, too! · 47 minutes ago
Tom Ridge is a liberal hawk. He's not a conservative. The only reason he's not a Democrat is because there's no room for a Tom Ridge anymore. See Joe Lieberman.
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Boots on the Table
Let's look at it from a different demographic. Hispanics are devoutly religious and mostly Catholic. Santorum is devoutly religious and Catholic. Hence, may it be the case that Santorum, being Catholic, is a better choice than say, Rubio, who is of Cuban descent and not Latin American Descent. · 1 hour ago
Cuba is certainly part of Latin America.
And I don't think that the Hispanics who are part of "The Hispanic Vote" (in contrast to Hispanics like my mom who don't identify themselves first and foremost as Hispanic) vote on religious lines. It's more about relatability and choosing a candidate who seems like they care and will help them. This includes being pro-immigration, or at the very least not vehemently opposed to immigration.
Santorum would not do well with this group.
Aug '11
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All I ask is that whoever is on the short list receives the vetting of a lifetime and that we get a VP candidate that will not produce too many surprises after the introduction. However, a clean vetting does equate a bland choice. It must be someone that adds a little fire without burning the ticket.
Apr '11
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I like Santorum a lot but I'm not sure what he adds to the ticket. If Romney can't get social conservatives to the polls without Santorum, he's in big trouble. · 7 hours ago
I agree that Ayotte is good. She's #4 on my current mental league table. She doesn't do amazingly in the experience category, though.
Apr '11
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Boots on the Table
Let's look at it from a different demographic. Hispanics are devoutly religious and mostly Catholic. Santorum is devoutly religious and Catholic. Hence, may it be the case that Santorum, being Catholic, is a better choice than say, Rubio, who is of Cuban descent and not Latin American Descent. · 10 minutes ago
It's not important to be part of a demographic so much as to appeal to that demographic. The advantage to Santorum is that he appeals to evangelicals, and would certainly help in North Carolina, Virginia, and Iowa. One of the disadvantages is that Catholics don't seem to find him so appealing; I'm not sure he'd be a big advantage in Pennsylvania, for instance, which is enormously Catholic. If he was really catnip to papists, I'd support him. Then again, I'd probably be supporting him as the candidate, as he'd have swept most of the map if he'd been winning the Catholic vote.
Aug '10
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Frozen Chosen: After thinking about this fairly extensively (extensively for me at least) I have come to the conclusion that Paul Ryan would be the best VP choice for Romney. I will elucidate my reasons for Ryan in a future member post.
Santorum would be a ways down on my list... · May 3 at 2:42pm
Edited on May 3 at 4:16pm
I'm thinking the same thing. Someone needs to be on the ticket that can articulate first principles. Rep. Ryan or Gov. Daniels, for me, fills that bill. Sen. Rubio may be too new and I wouldn't want to pull him out of the Senate.
Santorum is probably one of the last I would pick. He would hurt the ticket more than help in my opinion.
Dec '10
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Pithily put. While I'm not Catholic I do subscribe to the notion that a politician's religious beliefs (or lack of them) are legitimate data points in determining one's vote. And, while I'm pro-life/pro-family I do find Santorum to be an uncomfortable scold whose sanctimoniousness would become an issue. The issue this election should be the utter incompetence of Obama/Biden and their vision for America. Focus on that and the Republicans can be big winners. Become the issue and the Republicans are definite losers.
Apr '11
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Diane Ellis, Ed.
Boots on the Table
Cuba is certainly part of Latin America.
And I don't think that the Hispanics who are part of "The Hispanic Vote" (in contrast to Hispanics like my mom who don't identify themselves first and foremost as Hispanic) vote on religious lines. It's more about relatability and choosing a candidate who seems like they care and will help them. This includes being pro-immigration, or at the very least not vehemently opposed to immigration.
Santorum would not do well with this group. · May 4 at 9:34
In geography class. In the streets it's Caribbean. Mexico, and the remainder of Central America and South America are Latino. Personally I wish everyone would drop the hyphenated classification and choose which they would prefer. Those that choose to be American are like me. Those that choose not to be American can go home.
Edited on May 6, 2012 at 4:13pm