Instapundit asks:

CHANGE: The ‘Dump Obama’ movement has begun; Guess who’d replace him? She wouldn’t dare. Would she?

Are we really asking whether Hillary Clinton is cutthroat enough to do it? 

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Bjarni Olafsson
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Bjarni Olafsson

IIRC Rob was talking about a Clinton challenge to Obama last year. Isn't it a bit too late for her to unsheathe her knife now, given the short time until the primaries?

Keith Preston
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Keith Preston

The Dems are going to push out the first black president and de-motivate the only reliable voting demographic left in their coalition?  Are you kidding?

Ioannis
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Ioannis

Mrs. Clinton is also quite smart, smart enough to know that a) It is almost impossible to defeat a sitting President, however unpopular, for the party's nomination (e.g. Jimmy Carter in 1979-1980); b) The Democrats would lose most of the African-American vote, possibly for many years, if they succeed in replacing Mr. Obama as their party's presidential candidate; c) If the Democrats try but do not succeed in replacing Mr. Obama (and especially if the contest becomes acrimonious) they will still lose much of the African-American vote in congressional and in local and state elections. So any effort to replace Mr. Obama as their candidate is a no-win situation for the Democrats unless Mr. Obama withdraws "voluntarily" from the contest. But why should he? His reelection campaign so far has raised more money than all Republican candidates combined and defeating a sitting President is very difficult, especially when the opponent, whoever he may be, will almost certainly be thoroughly uninspiring.

Edited on Nov 21, 2011 at 6:20am
etoiledunord
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etoiledunord

Whether Hillary is lusting for it or not, it'll be made to look like she was drafted by the Party. That's after Obama has an LBJ moment, and bows out of the election because "he just has too much work to do to spend any time campaigning." He hasn't established any pattern of hard work, to make that excuse plausible, but he may use it anyway if he thinks he'd lose in a landslide to almost any Republican with a pulse. If Obama is low enough in the polls, he may not want the embarrassment, and Hillary will have her opening. If OWS continues, he may have his "no time for campaigning" excuse.

K T Cat
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K T Cat

Reading the article, there's no motivation for her running other than the thought that she might win.  There's no purpose to it but power.

Paul A. Rahe

The chickens really have come home to roost. Pelosi and Reid cynically used Obama, a man with no executive experience lacking an executive temperament, to move the Democratic Party decisively to the left -- and now they are stuck with him for the reasons mentioned above. They paid for their foolishness in 2010 and, unless the Republicans snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as is their wont, they will pay even more heavily in 2012.

Casey
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Casey

100% chance Clinton would win general if she announced she would repeal Obamacare to replace with a more acceptable, bipartisan plan.  It would completely castrate Republicans.  Of course, she would mean Hillarycare and we would be stuck with it forever.

Ioannis
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Ioannis
Casey: 100% chance Clinton would win general if she announced she would repeal Obamacare to replace with a more acceptable, bipartisan plan.  It would completely castrate Republicans.  Of course, she would mean Hillarycare and we would be stuck with it forever. · Nov 21 at 8:03am

Do you really think that Obamacare is going to be a major issue, never mind a defining one, in the presidential election?

Dave Jacoby
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Dave Jacoby

The last SecState to get the Oval Office was Thomas Jefferson. I don't see that changing.

Casey
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Casey

Ioannis

Casey: 100% chance Clinton would win general if she announced she would repeal Obamacare to replace with a more acceptable, bipartisan plan.  It would completely castrate Republicans.  Of course, she would mean Hillarycare and we would be stuck with it forever. · Nov 21 at 8:03am

Do you really think that Obamacare is going to be a major issue, never mind a defining one, in the presidential election? · Nov 21 at 8:34am

In this scenario it wouldn't matter if it is or isn't - Such a statement would put her to the right of Obama, to the left of the Republicans, and smack dab in the middle of the White House.

But yes I do think it will be a major issue:

As expected, the Supreme Court has agreed to decide the constitutionality of the sweeping health care reform law championed by President Barack Obama.

The justices made their announcement in a brief order issued Monday.

Oral arguments are likely to be held in late February or March, with a ruling by June, assuring the blockbuster issue will become a hot-button political debate in a presidential election year.


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MMPadre

New Ricochet contest!  

If Margaret Thatcher is "The Iron Lady" what is Hillary Clinton? 

Er . . . don't forget the Ricochet C of C.

Edited on Nov 21, 2011 at 9:52am
Casey
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Casey

MMPadre: New Ricochet contest!  

If Margaret Thatcher is "The Iron Lady" what is Hillary Clinton? 

In this story I guess she would be "The Aluminum Foil".

Israel Pickholtz
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Israel P.
Dave Jacoby: The last SecState to get the Oval Office was Thomas Jefferson. I don't see that changing. · Nov 21 at 8:45am

James Buchanan, though he did other things in between. (Not that that turned out well.)

Edited on Nov 21, 2011 at 10:35am
flownover
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flownover

How could Hillary possibly win considering her close ties with Mrs. Anthony Weiner ?

The Democrat party certainly couldn't stand the moral indignation of the American people after they discovered that her closest personal aide's husband was forced to resign his seat in the House after he transmitted naked pictures of himself posing in the Congressional locker room. 

This isn't some version of the decadent Weimar Republic after all.

Wylee Coyote
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Wylee Coyote

From Rob Long's lips to God's ear.

I don't think it will happen though.  If she were going to, she would have resigned "on principle" by now.

Susan in Seattle
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Susan in Seattle

Casey, your "Aluminum Foil" remark is terrific, in so many ways!

Dave Jacoby
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Dave Jacoby

Israel P.

Dave Jacoby: The last SecState to get the Oval Office was Thomas Jefferson. I don't see that changing. · Nov 21 at 8:45am

James Buchanan, though he did other things in between. (Not that that turned out well.) · Nov 21 at 10:34am

Edited on Nov 21 at 10:35 am

I looked it up and forgot it. And his tenure was 30 years after I thought the last one was. Still, ~160 years since the last one. 

flownover
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flownover

"Iron Lady"

...nevah.

"iron man" ???

"has she lost her mind...can she walk at all, or if she walks will she fall ?"

James Gawron
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James Gawron

The liberals can never get enough banal garbage.  They'd jump from the frying pan into the fire if they thought they could win an election.  Whatever the lefties do the American people started to give their honest opinion at the Nascar race down in Miami.  That's what will matter.  Premier Pant Suit, as I like to call Hillary, or President Zero won't make any difference one way or the other.

Edited on Nov 21, 2011 at 6:07pm

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