Message from the White House:

“The United States Embassy in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions,”

Message from my house:
"Anyone who kills Americans because their feelings are hurt is an idiot and deserves to be atomized by an American un-manned  drone. Suck it up people."

Why can't the president say this?

Bad Religion Anti-Christian, relatively main-stream American Music

Modern blasphemers are legion in our country. We endure them daily. The band "Bad Religion" is as good and as popular as any punk band in American history. Their logo hurts my feelings every day. (Yes, I see it somewhere everyday.)

Black Metal bands like Dimmu Borgir make a living with sacrilege that also hurts my feelings (if less often.) Then there's Madonna.

More un-avenged sacrilege.

All this hurts my feelings. It's all anti-Christian and directed at conservative believers. And of course we suck it up instead of suffocating people to death.

It would be nice someday to have a leader that knows the difference between right and wrong and isn't afraid to be stay strong in the face of people that act like animals.

Madonna. Our Lady of Sacrilege

And isn't this more  of the "pursuit of the perfect at the expense of the good? We'll never mollify Muslim extremists, but we might die trying.

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Mel Foil
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Sandy

The President can't say it because his sympathies are with the enemies of the United States.  Hard to imagine, hard for me to say, but I believe that it is so.  You would think that merely as a man, let alone as a man who represents the country, that he would want to represent a strong country. But you would be wrong.

Diane Ellis

Yes, but you're missing the point.   This is what we're really supposed to take away from it all:

Mitt Romney's Libya statement was just shameful

Mel Foil
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Mel Foil

Diane Ellis, Ed.: Yes, but you're missing the point.  This is what we're really supposed to take away from it all:

Mitt Romney's Libya statement was just shameful

Didn't the White House ALSO disavow the Cairo Embassy's statement? What the embassy did was pull out their mint condition (never read) copy of the US Constitution (I assume they have one) and tape over the First Amendment before commenting on the situation. That's all they did.


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Essgee

Diane Ellis, Ed.: Yes, but you're missing the point.  This is what we're really supposed to take away from it all:

Mitt Romney's Libya statement was just shameful · 0 minutes ago

Yes, I am afraid it is.  The drum beat.  If you say it enough times, it begins to sound like the truth.  It is shameful.  Romney was correct.

Joe Escalante

You can say one thing about Romney. He didn't run away from this issue, or wait to study the polls. That's two things, I guess. Good for him.

Frozen Chosen
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Frozen Chosen

My church, the LDS Church, recently took out adspace in the playbill of the Book of Mormon Musical in Los Angeles which features a picture of a member and says "I read the Book".  The ad features a QR code along with a URL where people can see the I'm a Mormon Youtube about that member.

If radical Muslims weren't living in the 9th century they might find creative ways to counteract blasphemy rather than killing innocent people.

I don't believe that either Obama or the State Dept has condemned the musical, BTW...

KC Mulville
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KC Mulville

Well, let's not forget that magnificent job Hillary's been doing. The diplomatic corps is so perfectly in sync with the Obama Administration's  agenda that they ... well ... um ... say things that the White House has to immediately retract, and then reject. 

sawatdeeka
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sawatdeeka

I saw the issuing of that Cairo embassy statement before the news came out that any US citizens had been murdered.  Am I wrong about the timeline? 

If I am right, than this wasn't the Embassy's official position on the killings, but a statement about the "protests."

Mel Foil
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Mel Foil

sawatdeeka: I saw the issuing of that Cairo embassy statementbeforethe news came out that any US citizens had been murdered.  Am I wrong about the timeline? 

If I am right, than this wasn't the Embassy's official position on the killings, but a statement about the "protests."

Nobody is saying that they did it in response to murder. I have to believe that even THEY wouldn't do that. They were implying that the protesters' cause had some validity. NO! It didn't any validity at all, and they should say that. The protesters right to not be offended has zero validity. The message should've been: "get a life."

sawatdeeka
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Mel Foil

sawatdeeka: I saw the issuing of that Cairo embassy statementbeforethe news came out that any US citizens had been murdered.  Am I wrong about the timeline? 

If I am right, than this wasn't the Embassy's official position on the killings, but a statement about the "protests."

Nobody is saying that they did it in response to murder. I have to believe that even THEY wouldn't do that. They were implying that the protesters' cause had some validity. NO! It didn't any validity at all, and they should say that. The protesters right to not be offended has zero validity. The message should've been: "get a life." · 4 minutes ago

No disagreement here, Mel.

There does seem to be an implication in the title of this post and elsewhere that this statement was the response to murder.

Devereaux
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Devereaux

Frozen Chosen:

I don't believe that either Obama or the State Dept has condemned the musical, BTW... · 18 minutes ago

Yet.

The New Clear Option
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The New Clear Option

Don't hold yer breath.

Devereaux

Frozen Chosen:

I don't believe that either Obama or the State Dept has condemned the musical, BTW... · 18 minutes ago

Yet. · 1 minute ago

KC Mulville
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KC Mulville

One of the more annoying comments by Obama-bots is that Romney should have waited a while

CNN's Don Lemon, questioning a Romney advisor:

"My first question is this, last night when this country was in the midst of a diplomatic crisis overseas, our people were in harm's way, is this the time for a candidate for the presidency to speak out in a way that is critical of the government? It couldn't wait?"

Isn't that great? The same media that starts every report of a shooting with the assumption that it was committed by a right-winger is now asking why Romney didn't wait.

But more importantly (echoing Netanyahu), what did they want Romney to wait for?

  • It wasn't as if Romney was going to muck up a "coordinated" or "sophisticated" US response. 
  • Obama was doing nothing.  I wouldn't be surprised if he was practicing a Top 10 list for his upcoming Letterman appearance.
  • The whole point was that there is no US response.

Answer this:

Between Obama's weak, self-serving political double-talking versus Romney's legitimate outrage, who's more in touch with how Americans feel?

Schrodinger's Cat
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Schrodinger's Cat

It is not about hurt feelings. Islam is a lie conceived by the father of all lies. When the light of the Truth is shone on evil, evil rages against the truth.


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Lynn M.

Romney showed himself today to be  a judicious leader mindful of what distinguishes America from the "democracies" of the Arab Spring, the U.S. Constitution and its safeguards against despotism in all its forms, from messianic leaders in the White House to Islamist zealots wishing to control the speech of a free people.


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Vance Richards

I saw this in a news report:

"[Libyan Interior Ministry] Al-Sharef said there had been threats that Islamic militants might try to take revenge for the death of al Qaeda's No. 2 commander Abu Yahya al-Libi, who was killed in a U.S. drone strike in Pakistan in June, and he said the U.S. consulate should have been better protected."

So while apologizing for someone's YouTube video is disgraceful enough, that probably had little or nothing to do with the attacks (likely that was just a front to rile up the crowds). Will the White House also apologize for fighting Al-Qaeda?

Edited on September 13, 2012 at 2:57pm
Rachel Lu
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Rachel Lu

From what I understand, it was the embassy that put up the statement, and given the facts on the ground they were probably terrified. Who can blame them? To me it doesn't seem that there's a lot to be made of that. I hope I'd be willing to die for Jesus Christ or Holy Mother Church, but I don't know that I'd be willing to die for the principle of free speech at the hands of angry Islamic terrorists. 

Devereaux
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Devereaux
Rachel Lu: From what I understand, it was the embassy that put up the statement, and given the facts on the ground they were probably terrified. Who can blame them? To me it doesn't seem that there's a lot to be made of that. I hope I'd be willing to die for Jesus Christ or Holy Mother Church, but I don't know that I'd be willing to die for the principle of free speech at the hands of angry Islamic terrorists.  · 24 minutes ago

Or maybe you wouldn't have to die if there had been backbone in the initial embassy response. Shoot the first over the wall, toss some grenades - and watch the "brave" crowd dissipate. These are bullies. You take a stand and they melt into the shadows. Recollect all the warnings about how the Arab Street would be up in arms when Bush went into Iraq. Guess what - nothing! Silence! Fear that they might be next.

Devereaux
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Devereaux

Oh, yes. And then before the Egyptian government has a chance to object to the behavior of the embassy, you fire off a HOT cable demanding an apology from the government for not protecting the embassy, and a demand it not happen again.


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