Huntsman

Well, it's official. Jon Huntsman is in the presidential race. The only question is which version of him is running. From today's announcement speech:

The view of America from 10,000 miles away is a picture of liberty, opportunity and justice; people secure in their rights and in love with their freedom, who’ve done more good for more people than any other nation in history.

Yet here's Huntsman as reported by the Washington Post in remarks just a few weeks ago:

On the campaign trail, Huntsman often dwells on how America is viewed from abroad. “From 10,000 miles away, folks, let me just tell you that we lack humanity, we lack civility, we lack basic respect for which this country should be known,” Huntsman told one crowd.

The past few weeks have given rise to widespread speculation on how a Huntsman campaign would effect Mitt Romney. Thus far, the answer seems to be that Huntsman makes Romney look like a paragon of consistency.

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Cas Balicki
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Cas Balicki

Great a Republican apologist for America. Nothing says Democrat lite like I'm sorry for being American. Maybe the angel Moroni can help him out with a vision or two.

Edited on Jun 21, 2011 at 7:10pm

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karamazov59

Both comments display the real John Huntsman. Anyone who changes the rhetoric based on the audience is lacking in integrity and not worthy to be considered for President.  

Kervinlee
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Kervinlee

“From 10,000 miles away, folks, let me just tell you that we lack humanity, we lack civility, we lack basic respect for which this country should be known,” Huntsman told one crowd.

That's enough for me. Get lost, Huntsman.

Mark Wilson
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Mark Wilson

Hey, 10,000 miles away could be a lot of different places.  Maybe he was talking about 10,000 miles into outer space (not quite far another for another planet, but the same idea). Or maybe he was 10,000 miles away in a Japanese baseball stadium, way out in left field. He could be 10,000 miles out to sea, adrift and aimless, not anchored to anything solid and reliable.  Don't be so quick to judge.

AmishDude
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AmishDude

At the risk of plugging my Member Feed post, I think he's playing the John Anderson role in this replay of 1980.


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Palaeologus

I'll have a go at translating for the ambassador.

1) From 10,000 miles away America seems just.

2) From 10,000 miles away Americans lack "humanity."

Thus:

Huntsman: America: Seemingly Lovely, Americans: Actually Horrid

I've gotta ask Troy: is this dude competing with Kucinich for donors? Or should we just accept that "from 10,000 miles away" clarity ain't so great?

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

Perhaps Huntsman is running for President in a country 10,000 miles away. Or maybe He's trying to get 10,000 votes Here.

Edited on Jun 21, 2011 at 8:03pm
wilber forge
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wilber forge

Working the audience is nothing new. There should be be no stomach for apologists seeking office. History is what it is. Simply get on with the current challenges and let history record those that accomplish.Stand up and be counted...

Kenneth
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Kenneth

There's a real Jon Huntsman?  Who knew?

Kenneth
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Kenneth

I'm gonna go way out an a limb here, but I suspect that Huntsman adopted children from China and India with an eye towards his political future.

Why else would his "motocross" advertisement feature the wording, "Has seven children, one from India and one from China"?

He's using these kids like meat puppets for his photo opportunities. 

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa

Cas Balicki: Great a Republican apologist for America. Nothing says Democrat lite like I'm sorry for being American. Maybe the angel Moroni can help him out with a vision or two. · Jun 21 at 7:09pm

Edited on Jun 21 at 07:10 pm

As a practicing Mormon, I think I can say with some confidence that Moroni will stay out of the race.  I'm sure he cares about Huntsman's soul (and everyone else's, for that matter), but thus far he's remained on the sidelines in American political races. Huntsman will have to rely on voters and not divine intervention to help him out in this race. And therein lies his problem. 

Troy Senik

Kervin,

Those of us who've spent enough time around State Department folks have a word for this affliction: Embassyitis

Kervinlee: “From 10,000 miles away, folks, let me just tell you that we lack humanity, we lack civility, we lack basic respect for which this country should be known,” Huntsman told one crowd.

That's enough for me. Get lost, Huntsman. · Jun 21 at 7:22pm

Kenneth
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Kenneth

Troy Senik: Kervin,

Those of us who've spent enough time around State Department folks have a word for this affliction: Embassyitis

Kervinlee: “From 10,000 miles away, folks, let me just tell you that we lack humanity, we lack civility, we lack basic respect for which this country should be known,” Huntsman told one crowd.

That's enough for me. Get lost, Huntsman. · Jun 21 at 7:22pm

Jun 21 at 8:51pm

The British called it going native.

Cas Balicki
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Cas Balicki

tabula rasa

Cas Balicki: Great a Republican apologist for America. Nothing says Democrat lite like I'm sorry for being American. Maybe the angel Moroni can help him out with a vision or two. · Jun 21 at 7:09pm

Edited on Jun 21 at 07:10 pm

As a practicing Mormon, I think I can say with some confidence that Moroni will stay out of the race.  I'm sure he cares about Huntsman's soul (and everyone else's, for that matter), but thus far he's remained on the sidelines in American political races. Huntsman will have to rely on voters and not divine intervention to help him out in this race. And therein lies his problem.  · Jun 21 at 8:35pm

I was too quick on the draw, tabula, and if I've given offence, please accept my sincere apology. Sometimes the enter key is too easily clicked. Thank you for your forbearance..

Cas Balicki
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Cas Balicki
Kenneth: There's a real Jon Huntsman?  Who knew? · Jun 21 at 8:22pm

Mrs. Huntsman.

Cas Balicki
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Cas Balicki

Kenneth: I'm gonna go way out an a limb here, but I suspect that Huntsman adopted children from China and India with an eye towards his political future.

Why else would his "motocross" advertisement feature the wording, "Has seven children, one from India and one from China"?

He's using these kids like meat puppets for his photo opportunities.  · Jun 21 at 8:29pm

I hear meat puppets are best served up rare.

Cas Balicki
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Cas Balicki

Kenneth

Troy Senik: Kervin,

Those of us who've spent enough time around State Department folks have a word for this affliction: Embassyitis

Kervinlee: “From 10,000 miles away, folks, let me just tell you that we lack humanity, we lack civility, we lack basic respect for which this country should be known,” Huntsman told one crowd.

That's enough for me. Get lost, Huntsman. · Jun 21 at 7:22pm

Jun 21 at 8:51pm

The British called it going native. · Jun 21 at 8:56pm

Pass the gin and tonic.

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa

Cas Balicki

tabula rasa

Cas Balicki: Great a Republican apologist for America. Nothing says Democrat lite like I'm sorry for being American. Maybe the angel Moroni can help him out with a vision or two. · Jun 21 at 7:09pm

Edited on Jun 21 at 07:10 pm

As a practicing Mormon, I think I can say with some confidence that Moroni will stay out of the race.  I'm sure he cares about Huntsman's soul (and everyone else's, for that matter), but thus far he's remained on the sidelines in American political races. Huntsman will have to rely on voters and not divine intervention to help him out in this race. And therein lies his problem.  · Jun 21 at 8:35pm

I was too quick on the draw, tabula, and if I've given offence, please accept my sincere apology. Sometimes the enter key is too easily clicked. Thank you for your forbearance.. · Jun 21 at 8:58pm

No offense was taken.  I was trying to be funny in my response.  As you can tell, I'm not a fan of Huntsman.

outstripp
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outstripp

Kenneth

Troy Senik: Kervin,

Those of us who've spent enough time around State Department folks have a word for this affliction: Embassyitis

Kervinlee: “From 10,000 miles away, folks, let me just tell you that we lack humanity, we lack civility, we lack basic respect for which this country should be known,” Huntsman told one crowd.

That's enough for me. Get lost, Huntsman. · Jun 21 at 7:22pm

Jun 21 at 8:51pm

The British called it going native. · Jun 21 at 8:56pm

Be that as it may, and speaking from 10,000 miles away, I can assure you that America is not as beautiful as she used to be.  There is a side to America, involving ordinary people, living in decent houses in attractive communities, mowing their lawns, and waving to their neighbors, which is never seen abroad.  Instead, what is seen from abroad is coarse and crude entertainment, seemingly arbitrary exercises of military power, and, when visiting the USA, poor service and cruddy transportation facilities.

Kervinlee
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Kervinlee

Troy Senik: Kervin,

Those of us who've spent enough time around State Department folks have a word for this affliction: Embassyitis

Kervinlee: “From 10,000 miles away, folks, let me just tell you that we lack humanity, we lack civility, we lack basic respect for which this country should be known,” Huntsman told one crowd.

That's enough for me. Get lost, Huntsman. · Jun 21 at 7:22pm

Jun 21 at 8:51pm

Troy - I once heard an anecdote about George Schultz when he became Secretary of State - he called various people - foreign service officers maybe, or ambassadors or maybe just garden-variety state department people - he called them into his office, showed them a large globe and asked them to show him their country. These folks would of course show the secretary the country of their particular professional interest - upon which Secretary Schulz would interrupt them and point out to them the United States and say, "no, that is your country."

I guess Governor Huntsman wasn't around then to get that lesson. Too bad. If he had, maybe he would not have said such a disparaging thing about his country as he did.


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