Okay, I'll go first: In the final third or so of the debate Ryan proved the dominant presence on the stage.
But by then it was too late.
During the first two-thirds or so, when viewers were still watching, Biden pushed Ryan around--and Ryan permitted him to get away with him. Biden proved a loudmouth and a boor. But he also proved the dominant figure on the stage.
If you had to choose a winner, I'd say--and it pains me--that Biden won.
But I'd also say it doesn't matter. This debate won't move the polls at all.
That's my two cents. Yours?