vaclav-havel-mourning-ceremony

It's disappointing that President Barack Obama isn't attending the funeral of the great Vaclav Havel. I heard rumors that he might not be attending, which brought back memories of him dissing the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, but hoped he'd do the right thing. But the White House has sent notice of the official delegation, and President Obama is not on the list. Secretary of State Hilary Clinton is going and former President Bill Clinton will be with her. But what sort of message does it send that our president won't be paying his respects to one of the champions in the great fight of the 20th Century against communism?

United Kingdom Prime Minister David Cameron, Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and many other world leaders will be attending.

But our participation is almost more reminiscent of Russia's. They're going to be represented by their Presidential Ombudsman for, um, Human Rights. OK, not quite that bad.

But can't he tell that this is an important occasion? If not for him, than for so many of the people in his country who love and admire the work of Havel (along with Reagan, Thatcher, John Paul II and the other heroes who vanquished this oppressive enemy)?

It would be one thing if he were just giving back Churchill busts and the like but making sure to attend important events commemorating the victors in the Cold War. But when you put it all together, it leaves something of a bad taste in the mouth, no?

Comments:


Paul A. Rahe

The message is that there is nothing that is as important as the vacation of The One.

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa

This is shameful.  I think Obama has a hard time letting a man or woman of superior moral courage and talent take the spotlight from him.

Havel was one of the great fighters against totalitarianism; I just don't think Obama thinks the fall of totalitarianism in much of eastern Europe is that big a deal.

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa
Paul A. Rahe: The message is that there is nothing that is as important as the vacation of The One. · Dec 22 at 8:30am

True.  The weather in Hawaii is probably a lot better than the weather in Prague.  

Dan Hanson
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Dan Hanson

 I suspect there's a better chance that Obama would attend the funeral of Hugo Chavez before he'd attend the funeral of Vaclav Havel.  He's more politically in tune with the former.

Paul A. Rahe
Dan Hanson:  I suspect there's a better chance that Obama would attend the funeral of Hugo Chavez before he'd attend the funeral of Vaclav Havel.  He's more politically in tune with the former. · Dec 22 at 8:40am

Or Fidel Castro....

The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

 Is he still bitter that his side lost?

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa

This one really has me irritated, so I'm playing amateur psychologist.

The hard left mindset views the past as largely irrelevant.  Tradition means nothing.  

Condorcet claimed that “[a] young man now leaving school possesses more real knowledge than the greatest geniuses,”and that “everything that bears the imprint of time must inspire distrust more than respect.”  Thus, the past (meaning anytime prior to the One's accession to office) means little or nothing, including the momentous events in Eastern Europe and the USSR in the late 1980s and 1990s.  So, in Obama's mind, Havel was "so 1990s" and so was Clinton.

Any merit in this kind of analysis?

 


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Boots on the Table

On the bright side.....

          1:  When he's playing golf he's not screwing up the country.

          2:  He's not desecrating the memory of Vaclav Havel with his presence.

The King Prawn:  Is he still bitter that his side lost? · Dec 22 at 8:45am

I'm not sure he recognizes the existence of another side.

Crow's Nest
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Crow's Nest

I happened to be in Prague today. Long story.

But many Czech parents cared enough to bring their children out to the spontaneous memorials set up in Prague Castle and Wenceslas Square. A sample of my photos:

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Oh, and I happened to notice this one peculiar flag flying amidst the memorial candles:

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Yeah, probably shouldn't go to that funeral, eh Mr. President? Nah.

Instugator
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Instugator

 Maybe he looked at the national checkbook and decided His and Her jumbo jets to Europe were too much?

Nah, I don't think so either...

EJHill
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EJHill

A good funeral is a terrible thing to waste. Events like these provide world leaders the opportunity to actually talk to each other without all the bureaucratic ugliness of "summit" meetings. A lot can be accomplished between hymns.

And as long as the planners don't seat delegates alphabetically they're alright. Otherwise you'd have Iran, Iraq and Israel in the same pew and risk WWIII.*

(*Yes, Prime Minister, "A Diplomatic Incident")

Butters
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Ningrim

 It would be one thing if he were just giving back Churchill busts

Has Obama ever explained why he did this? Has he ever even been asked?

R0bert Scott
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R0bert Scott

 Didn't Vaclav Havel call BS on catastrophic man-made global warming a few years ago?  We can't be celebrating the life of a "denier." 

Flagg Taylor
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Flagg Taylor

 It is shameful.  And what a contrast.  Havel was a man with a truly great intellect--a fertile and creative mind.  He was also quite humble, even shy.  While I am sure he had ambition, one gets the sense he would have been perfectly happy (perhaps happier) had he never entered political life.  But he knew when his moment came and he also likely knew what he was giving up--the quiet, productive life of a writer. 

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa
Flagg Taylor:  It is shameful.  And what a contrast.  Havel was a man with a truly great intellect--a fertile and creative mind.  He was also quite humble, even shy.  While I am sure he had ambition, one gets the sense he would have been perfectly happy (perhaps happier) had he never entered political life.  But he knew when his moment came and he also likely knew what he was giving up--the quiet, productive life of a writer.  · Dec 22 at 9:08am

In other words, Havel was the un-Obama?

raycon and lindacon
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raycon

Boots on the Table: On the bright side.....

          1:  When he's playing golf he's not screwing up the country.

          2:  He's not desecrating the memory of Vaclav Havel with his presence.

The King Prawn:  Is he still bitter that his side lost? · Dec 22 at 8:45am

I'm not sure he recognizes the existence of another side. · Dec 22 at 8:55am

"He's not desecrating the memory of Vaclav Havel with his presence." 

I believe @BOTT has correctly called it.

Chazzy Star
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Calicocaptive

Ningrim

 It would be one thing if he were just giving back Churchill busts

Has Obama ever explained why he did this? Has he ever even been asked? · Dec 22 at 9:07am

The bust was on loan, and had already been scheduled to go back.  They asked him if he wanted to keep it and he declined, so it went to a British ambassadors office down the street from Biden's house. 

Or you can believe Beck's theory

KC Mulville
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KC Mulville
EJHill: A good funeral is a terrible thing to waste.

If the Jesuits taught me anything, it's that people never ...never ... ever ... forget who came to the funeral.

Golden opportunity to show respect. Obama's on vacation.

Any bets on whether Eastern Europe will have a picture of Obama golfing that day?


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raycon

Boots on the Table: On the bright side.....

          1:  When he's playing golf he's not screwing up the country.

          2:  He's not desecrating the memory of Vaclav Havel with his presence.

The King Prawn:  Is he still bitter that his side lost? · Dec 22 at 8:45am

I'm not sure he recognizes the existence of another side. · Dec 22 at 8:55am

"He's not desecrating the memory of Vaclav Havel with his presence." 

I believe @BOTT has correctly called it. · Dec 22 at 9:25am

Opinions vary.  I guess you like Obama a little more than I do.  I rank him right up there with the gay pedophile we have as a Mayor here in Moscow on the Willamette (The People's Republic of Portland).

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

A friend of mine -- during the Attack Watch debacle -- got himself signed up for Barack Obama's sycophantic campaign e-letters. This morning, he got an email inviting him to pass along holiday wishes to the President and his family. Here's what he sent:

Your disrespect in not attending the funeral of Vaclav Havel is duly noted by me and every other voter who cares about freedom and democracy. Enjoy your holiday. Oscar Biscet sends his kindest regards.

His final message to me: "you remember the old maxim: don't get mad, get even."

As Instapundit would say: "heh".


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