Just what Carter tried to do to Reagan in 1980:

Carter's attacks fell flat.  Would Obama's? 

(H/t to Philip Klein of the Washington Examiner.)

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Keith Preston
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Keith Preston

not showing up, Peter....

CJRun
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CJRun

 Check your link, Mr. Robinson.

Mark Wilson
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Mark Wilson
Keith Preston: not showing up, Peter.... · Aug 28 at 1:20pm

It's visual humor.  Nothing shows up because Obama has no response to Perry.

Well played, Mr. Robinson.

Keith Preston
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Keith Preston

Mark Wilson

Keith Preston: not showing up, Peter.... · Aug 28 at 1:20pm

It's visual humor.  Nothing shows up because Obama has no response to Perry.

Well played, Mr. Robinson. · Aug 28 at 1:24pm

D'oh!

The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

Here's the link.

Watching that made me wonder: where the 70s so ugly because of Carter or vice versa?

Yes, he'll try it, but it's the "who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?" gambit.


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Boots on the Table

Try this.  the link was entered multiples.  Here's the singular.

http://www.livingroomcandidate.org/flash/player.swf?id=4069"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src=


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Tennessee Patriot

I viewed this great clip by pasting:

http://www.livingroomcandidate.org/flash/player.swf?id=4069

into the address bar.

This ad reminds me of what Meghan Clyne was saying about Rick Perry in the latest "Young Guns" and what the Powerline boys were saying about him in in the new "Hindy-Ward Experience". There is no doubt these personages would have been for Bush over Reagan in the Republican primary. Reagan shot from the hip. He was scary. He threw red meat over fly-over country!!! He was not serious! They believe we are safer with Romney or Bush or Dole or McCain or their ilk because they will be ever so careful not to scare the coastal elites and media. They had great creases in their trousers.

raycon
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raycon

Carter kept us out of war... by handing Iran over to the Islamists. 

Now, let's hear it for the great conciliator, Obama.  Let's see... he handed over Egypt, Tunisia and Libya to the MB and Al Qaida, Syria back to the great reformer, Al Assad, nukes to Iran, the Palistinian Authority to Hamas, and Israel to Islam. 

Hail to the Chief !!

The Great Adventure!
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The Great Adventure!

I'm just frankly amazed that they manged to find a half dozen people that would admit that they'd vote for Carter.  Astonishing.

The King Prawn
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The Great Adventure!: I'm just frankly amazed that they manged to find a half dozen people that would admit that they'd vote for Carter.  Astonishing. · Aug 28 at 2:32pm

I believe it was filmed in California.


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Lucy Elwood

The Living Room Candidate? Seriously?

Paul A. Rahe

Peter, the answer to your question is that it depends on how Perry handles the attacks. My opinion -- expressed in an earlier post -- is that he has to do everything he can now to blunt the attacks that will come later. He has more than a year in which to shape the public's perception of him. He will get plenty of attention because people are fed up with Obama and are looking for an alternative. His aim should be to reassure them that he is intelligent, thoughtful, calm, and more than capable of getting us out of this mess. The opportunity is Perry's to throw away.

The Great Adventure!
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The King Prawn

The Great Adventure!: I'm just frankly amazed that they manged to find a half dozen people that would admit that they'd vote for Carter.  Astonishing. · Aug 28 at 2:32pm

I believe it was filmed in California. · Aug 28 at 2:36pm

Ooooh!  Right.  That explains it.

CJRun
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CJRun

 While watching this, I too, thought back to the Young Guns podacst; perhaps it was Meghan Clyne, but who knows amongst several distaff voices, straining to hear over a noisy tractor?  In any case, the sentiment was the same; Perry just can't articulate the situation or potential solutions, adequately.

I'm not a Perry supporter but my Mom thinks he is just fine (surprising, to me) and she is a very moderate conservative, former English teacher, and a person that graciously hosted tyrants and hippies in our home, wherever it was, all over the world, going back to the 1950s.  If she is willing to give him a look through her gimlet eye, I will reserve judgement.

In that light, Obama's obvious path would fall flat, if Perry did not.

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

It's amazing how Obama has brought Us back everything from the '70s but the hair.

"Progressive" My foot....

Douglas
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Douglas

This kind of thing wont work now for the same reason it didin't work then; it wasn't big liberal cities that Carter needed to convince... he had those in his pocket. He needed to convince voters in the middle states, and this ad was actually quite arrogant because it presupposed an arrogant attitude: these big city liberals are more plugged in than you hicks, shouldn't you do what they do?"

Except voters in 1980 didn't give a damn about Middle East peace or SALT talks. They cared that the economy sucked, and that the leadership in Washington seemed intent on a slow decline of American power and prestige. That ad shows just how disconnected Democrats were.

Matthew Gilley
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Tennessee Patriot

This ad reminds me of what Meghan Clyne was saying about Rick Perry in the latest "Young Guns" and what the Powerline boys were saying about him in in the new "Hindy-Ward Experience". 

I'm glad you mentioned this.  I've enjoyed John Hinderaker's posts for years, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that tossing Rick Perry and Bull Connor into the same sentence was just a little rhetorical chin music (because if he was serious, it was insulting and contemptible).  I realize he's probably disappointed that the Pawlenty campaign never took off, but such is life.  As for Ms. Clyne, I've done my best to revivify Henry Cabot Lodge, but can report no success (not that I tried very hard, though).  I guess I have to sympathize with them that they're stuck in a conservative movement with so many of us unwashed hillbillies, but the unwashed hillbillies seem to be the only ones willing to mount a vigorous campaign right now. 

Edited on Aug 28, 2011 at 4:17pm
Brian Watt
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Brian Watt

I almost called the paramedics...I thought Carter was running again! Ack!

Kervinlee
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Kervinlee

I remember that Carter, in a valiant act of political courage, had conceded before the polls in California had closed. So for the people in the ad their vote was moot by the time they cast it.

I wonder what they would say about Carter and Reagan today, given the hindsight of history?

Duane Oyen
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Duane Oyen

Tennessee Patriot:

This ad reminds me of what Meghan Clyne was saying about Rick Perry in the latest "Young Guns" and what the Powerline boys were saying about him in in the new "Hindy-Ward Experience". There is no doubt these personages would have been for Bush over Reagan in the Republican primary......They believe we are safer with Romney or Bush or Dole or McCain or their ilk because they will be ever so careful not to scare the coastal elites and media....

Tennessee, you clearly do not know the people you are talking about.  Nothing whatever of what is excerpted above 1) makes sense, or 2) is true.

Anyone who may agree with most of Perry's advertised positions, but doesn't have reservations about how he sometimes handles himself hasn't thought this through, but is instead reacting on emotion.  Cheap political thrills in the form of sardonic confrontational one-liners and impolitic hip-shooting make neither a viable general election candidate nor an effective chief executive. 


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