Troy Senik, Ed. · February 9, 2012 at 6:08pm
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If Rick Santorum continues to surge to national prominence and perhaps -- just perhaps -- to a serious shot at the nomination, expect to see the media prominently displaying more photos like this one, taken by the Associated Press on Wednesday and now making the rounds in the MSM (it's even on the front page of the Washington Post today)

The media, I think, will be keen to run with this angle, knowing that Americans will divide into those who find this picture moving and inspiring and those who find it creepy and unbecoming. And you know what? Maybe it's time we had that fight.

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Percival
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Percival

 I'd as soon be hanged for a sheep as a lamb.

flownover
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flownover

DocJay

Your point has validity,I'm just pot committed. · 3 minutes ago

Dude, wrong comment. You probably wanted to post at the other dealie, something about reefer...maybe...whatever.

genferei
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genferei

Interesting Rorschach test, Troy: what is "this fight"?


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DocStu

 For those who attend church of many different types this kind of scene is common. Jesus called his house a house of prayer. Laying on of hands is a common doctrine for all Christians.

Clearly the fight is the fact that those who believe are strange to those who do not, and vice versa.

Edited on February 9, 2012 at 7:08pm
~Paules
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~Paules

May I remind the readership that the First Amendment guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.  This could be a win for conservatives if it's addressed as part of the larger war against liberty in general.  Santorum understands this.  Bring it!

Leslie Watkins
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Leslie Watkins

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Matthew 6:5


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wmartin

 Obama now at + 4 in Gallup, his best showing in about a year. Like I said, the HHS mandate not hurting him at all.

DocJay
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DocJay

flownover

DocJay

Your point has validity,I'm just pot committed. · 3 minutes ago

Dude, wrong comment. You probably wanted to post at the other dealie, something about reefer...maybe...whatever. · 11 minutes ago

I was committed for pot too but that was before the shock therapy.  I live in a gambling town.

Diane Ellis

Leslie Watkins: And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Matthew 6:5 · 2 minutes ago

I've never understood this verse to condemn the practice of praying in a house of worship with a fellowship of believers. Is that what you're implying by posting it without comment?

Valiuth
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Valiuth

My fear about "This fight" is that this kind of fight does not really bringout the best on our side. When we have these kinds of debates, what I feel generally happens is that the people left to fight it out are self righteous atheists vs self righteous Christians...which is very unappealing to watch. This is not to say all the Christians who will enter this debate are self righteous, but the whole thing will devolve in that direction...which really only benefits the atheists since they are already generally disliked and have nothing to loose. 

I say don't take the bait. The proper answer is to ignore the religious baiting by the AP. If you start having to explain a perfectly normal act you begin to call it into question. Santorum does not need to explain, or apologize for his method of praying with people, period!  

Diane Ellis

I didn't know that Catholic laymen practiced the laying on of hands in prayer. Awesome.

DocJay
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DocJay

Diane Ellis, Ed.

Leslie Watkins: And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Matthew 6:5 · 2 minutes ago

I've never understood this verse to condemn the practice of praying in a house of worship with a fellowship of believers. Is that what you're implying by posting it without comment? · 3 minutes ago

The verse is meant of course to expose hypocrites as stated but that designation hardly applies to average church goers who pray far more with family or in solitude than in public.

The question to ask for all those in the picture is what meant more to them.  Being in the picture or praying for a man they believe in.  I would be surprised if it wasn't the latter as majority.

The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

 The lead line of the story containing the picture:

Rick Santorum and his supporters moved quickly Wednesday to raise money and redirect their efforts after a surprising Tuesday sweep of three contests again put the former senator from Pennsylvania in position to contend for the Republican nomination.

It further states:

Without the money or organizational structure of Romney’s campaign, Santorum is taking a stand in states that are likely to respond to his socially conservative everyman message to avoid a repeat of his experience after Iowa, when a similar bounce evaporated quickly in New Hampshire against a superior organization in a moderate state.

Reading between the lines: Santorum is a religious nut job with no hope of getting this nomination.

Leslie Watkins
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Leslie Watkins

To be honest, Diane. I did not realize it was a church, maybe because it seemed to be mostly men, and everyone is fixated on Santorum rather than each other. So, I apologize for that assumption, erroneous as it was. Nonetheless, the verse says how I feel, that public displays of one's profession of faith—or allowing one's profession of faith to be publicized—are doing it for themselves. It's just the way I feel about it.

Diane Ellis, Ed.

Leslie Watkins: And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Matthew 6:5 · 2 minutes ago

I've never understood this verse to condemn the practice of praying in a house of worship with a fellowship of believers. Is that what you're implying by posting it without comment? · 3 minutes ago

Brian Clendinen
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Brian Clendinen

 

 Wow, considering my grandparents who are still alive went to public schools that prayed every day and this is supposed to be controversial? There are very few American who are offended when you ask to pray for them.

 

After all is national day a prayer, and is not the Senate and Congress opened each day with prayer??? How many presidents have asked Americans to pray when trouble comes.

Seriously it is only religious nut bags who have issues with prayer which I guess includes MSM journalist.

Edited on February 9, 2012 at 7:31pm

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Hang On

Yeah, but football helmets and pads on them, and then what would be said?


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BKelley14

There are very few American who are offended when you ask to pray for them.

Unfortunately, the ones who are offended dominate our judiciary, thus, removing even the mildest of "prayer" from the public arena (schools, sporting events, etc.)

Tom Meyer
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Tom Meyer

Diane Ellis, Ed.

I've never understood this verse to condemn the practice of praying in a house of worship with a fellowship of believers. Is that what you're implying by posting it without comment?

I'm a little confused of the context of the photograph. At first glance, it appears to taken during religious service, but the focus on Santorum and the "Faith & Family" sign in background make it seem far more like people praying at a political rally. Finding the chapel's website, it seems to be primarily a wedding chapel which, which makes me lean toward to latter.  If so, I find it a little weird.

I would guess that the average Ricochteer values religiosity in its presidents more strongly and has fewer hang-ups about the level of his public religiosity than the average American.  That may be a healthier attitude, but it's not necessarily going to help us win.

Edited on February 9, 2012 at 7:43pm
dogsbody
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dogsbody

It's clear that the people running this picture think it's "creepy and unbecoming" and they think that most people would react likewise.  It's all part of being in the Bosnywash liberal statist cocoon.

Chris Deleon
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Chris Deleon
  1. Prayer works.  But it doesn't always guarantee the results you want. ;-)
  2. The verse cited above about public prayer is specifically about praying for show, to gain approval.  Only God and the person are qualified to judge whether they are praying sincerely or for show.  The warning is to be taken personally, not to be used to judge someone else, whose intentions you are not in a position to determine.
  3. I hope the MSM suffers a backlash if they make an issue out of things like this.

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