What Say You?
A quick show of hands please, so to speak: How would you prefer congressional Republicans to handle the omnibus spending debacle? Demonstrating that he can sink lower than the Titanic, Harry Reid has again waited until the last moment before Christmas to haul up a 1,924 page spending bill worth over $1 trillion. This behemoth (the bill, not the Senator) is oozing with over 6,000 earmarks that include a cool billion to help implement the Obama healthcare law, a central tenet of which has been declared unconstitutional. There's even language in this gigantic pile of legislative cowplop that designates Nevada as a Pacific Coast state so it can get a few million extra federal bucks to protect Salmon. Nevada!
This bill is everything that citizens voted against just a few short weeks ago, yet here we are again, just before Christmas with Democrats jamming another 2,000 page insult down your throat.
Now, if this thing doesn't pass by midnight Saturday, the federal government will have to shut down. What say you?
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Jul '10
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Shut down.
Jul '10
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Actually, I'm kinda of torn...... "shut down" usually means a paid vacation for government employees, but the government would be "shut down" though.
Jul '10
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But, but...will my Congressman and Senators have to forgo their pay and benefits?
Please, God, no!
Oct '10
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I say shut it down. Keep only the military and other essential services going.
This lame-duck Congress is an abomination. Never in my life have I seen such utter contempt for the will of the American people. Disgraceful...utterly, utterly disgraceful.
I'll stop now before I say something I might later regret.
Oct '10
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SHUT...IT...DOWN!!!!! The federal (or is that feral) government has done enough damage for the last two years. Kiss my social security check goodbye and let me lift my head as a free American, as I used to be. There could be no other better way to codify the recent election than to carry the voice of America into action and STOP the insanity. What do we have to lose??? Only the chains that are daily being forged by the feral go'mnt.
Nov '10
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Right now is probably the best atmosphere politically to shut the government down. Never going to get a better scenario. Close the doors.
May '10
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Shut it down. The bill is extortion, plain and simple.
May '10
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Toughie. The gut reaction is shut down. But the last shutdown didn't go so well.
Bill Kristol has a good quickie post at the Weekly Standard. Make this HR 1. Repeal the earmarks, and dare Obama to veto it.
This lame-duck foolishness is an echo of the healthcare debacle. We won, so who cares what the people think. The Chinese have a phrase for this whenever a dynasty is overthrown. It is called "losing the Mandate of Heaven".
Nov '10
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No brainer. Shut down for now.
It will only be for a little while, and the new congress can then take the reins of spending. And at the same time, get really, really vocal about why this had to happen.
May '10
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Shut. It. Down.
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I hope "Mike McConnell" is reading this.
Nov '10
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Edited on Jan 5, 2011 at 10:06pmSep '10
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Shut 'er down, shut off the water, shutter the windows, and shut yer faces, dems.
Edited on Dec 15, 2010 at 9:03pmNov '10
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Mike LaRoche: I say shut it down. Keep only the military and other essential services going.
This lame-duck Congress is an abomination. Never in my life have I seen such utter contempt for the will of the American people. Disgraceful...utterly, utterly disgraceful.
I'll stop now before I say something I might later regret.
The Ricochet CoC notwithstanding, we are rapidly approaching the point when honest debate becomes impossible without addressing the Truth in the harshest possible terms.
Jul '10
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I'm confused.
If we shut down the federal government, will my local lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgenderd homeless shelter lose its funding? What about the bi-lingual job-training program for undocumented felony offenders?
Some things, folks, are sacred.
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Lady Kurobara, this is the first time I've agreed with you while wishing I wasn't agreeing with you. But you're exactly right, our biggest existential threat comes from within. And this bill, this repulsive "up yours" bill that Reid and his orchestra are trying to force on us is so breathtaking in its ugliness and bitterness, and so destructive that I don't think we have a choice here but to call their bluff. To be honest, I am livid about this. But rather than rant, I wanted to hear your opinions, and I want the political class to hear all our opinions. I'll quiet down now before I run afoul of our code of conduct.
Jul '10
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The first time you've agreed with Lady Kurobara? Really?
I never took you for a squish, Dave. I've only disagreed with her once.
Jun '10
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Shut it down. Pick up the fight after January when Republicans control the House and have more influence in the Senate. If the extension of the tax rates are held up then pass legislation in January to give Americans a tax rebate to those levels and force Obama's hand.
Nov '10
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I'll say this: it's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. I say stonewall the bill in every fashion possible. This lame duck congress shouldn't get be allowed to anything done.
Nov '10
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Lady Kurobara:
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I wonder how many intelligence databases you've entered with that post.
Of course when they "shut it down" they don't really shut it down. Millitary, law enforcement, the courts, and many, many other services will continue to function.
So...shut it down, even in that modified sense, and let's just experiment with how long we can get along without a lot of other services the federal government provides. It won't be a surprise to most Rico members, but it might bring others to The Light.
Edited on Jan 5, 2011 at 10:31pm