Sorry, Claire. But in the stand-off between cat-lovers and dog-lovers around the world, dog-lovers have reason to cheer: researchers at Oxford have determined that dogs have bigger brains than cats because they're friendlier than their feline peers. It pays to be nice. 

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The Telegraph reports:

 The intelligence of “a man’s best friend” has evolved at a greater rate than the less social cat over millions of years, scientists at Oxford University have claimed.

It was often thought that the feline pet was smarter than its canine counterpart because it needed less attention but researchers have discovered that cat’s brains are smaller because they are less social.

Here's a picture of my family's little pup, Persia. She's really friendly. Does that mean she's really smart?

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EJHill
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EJHill

They never met my dog. Love him but dumber than a box of rocks.

Emily Esfahani Smith, Ed.
EJHill: They never met my dog. Love him but dumber than a box of rocks. · Nov 23 at 8:09am

Ha! Aw--what kind of dog?

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

Not tonight: I have a headache.

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

Researchers also say Global Warming is a fact. Other researchers disagree. Emily, your post now makes me an official minority group here on Ricochet. I feel a class action suit coming on.

Brian Watt
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Brian Watt

Yes, but are Cambridge researchers smarter than Oxford researchers?

EJHill
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EJHill

My dumb dog. Wire Fox Terrier. Same type as was in the Thin Man movies. I didn't want to name him Asta, though. Too cliche. And the wife vetoed HalfAsta.

Humza Ahmad
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Humza Ahmad

This can't be in keeping with the “good news only“ edict (at least for Claire).

Diane Ellis, Ed.
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My roommate's cat and my dog (pictured above) are best of friends.  They're both pretty smart animals, but the cat's smarts don't enhance our lives in any way, while the dog's intelligence is pretty amazing to behold.  For instance, Bee (my dog) loves to herd large groups of children.  The parents may not like this, but it certainly demonstrates an intelligent mind at work. 

Emily Esfahani Smith, Ed.
Pseudodionysius: Emily, your post now makes me an official minority group here on Ricochet.  Nov 23 at 8:12am

I think you, Claire, and her cats would make quite a formidable group. 

Emily Esfahani Smith, Ed.

Diane Ellis, Ed.


My roommate's cat and my dog (pictured above) are best of friends.  They're both pretty smart animals, but the cat's smarts don't enhance our lives in any way, while the dog's intelligence is pretty amazing to behold.  For instance, Bee (my dog) loves to herd large groups of children.  The parents may not like this, but it certainly demonstrates an intelligent mind at work.  · Nov 23 at 8:26am

Great picture! I have to say, the funnest part of posting this conversation was going through all the adorable pictures of cats and dogs online, trying to find the perfect one for the post. I found the perfect one here, but unfortunately I couldn't save and post it.

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Xty
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Xty

I cannot believe people have this debate.  Would you think an aloof person was necessarily smarter than a friendly one?  That someone completely unable to follow simple commands was smarter than someone who could at least sit on command? We had cats when I was growing up, and one of them was almost smart. Now we have become dog people, and while our last dog was about as smart as wood, he was very protective and able to detect threats (like my father-in-law) with uncanny ability.  Our current pooch, Mouse, is half Australian Shepherd and half Bernese Mountain Dog.  She is very smart, and can even shake (not a paw, her whole body) on command.  She not only understands basic commands, but has been able to interpret words, like "gentle" and apply them in different situations.  Gentle can mean to take food slowly, or to walk gently off the porch. Quite remarkable - try asking that of a cat.

EJHill
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EJHill

Things that make you go "Mmmmmmm"...

Why is it that men can only have dogfights in the air but women can have a catfight anywhere?

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

EJHill: Things that make you go "Mmmmmmm"...

Why is it that men can only have dogfights in the air but women can have a catfight anywhere? · Nov 23 at 9:00am

Ground control to major Thom, EJHill was descended upon by the furies, never to be seen again, except in reruns.

Claire Berlinski, Ed.

If "social" is the measure, my cats are the most intelligent creatures in the world. They're more social than Katherine Graham. Everyone notes how exceptionally friendly and affectionate they are. If "intelligent" is the measure, however, they're unbelievably stupid. 

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

If "intelligent" is the measure, however, they're unbelievably stupid.

I think Feline stupidity is a linear function of the number of hairballs coughed up over a lifetime.

EJHill
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EJHill
Claire Berlinski, Ed.: ...my cats are...more social than Katherine Graham.

"My cats are more more social than a woman dead these past nine years" is not a ringing endorsement. Katherine doesn't get out much these days...

Bryan G. Stephens
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Bryan G. Stephens

The brain size is critical regardless of the social stuff.

But, we are social animals. Intelligence to a human has a social aspect. That is part of how we look at it. Cats are very good at the physics of lapping up water with no spills. Better than dogs. We don't call that "smart".

To us, "smart" includes getting by in our world. Dogs do better with people as a species and are therefore considered smarter.

River
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River

I think cats are too smart to participate in these demeaning intelligence tests. They're thinking, "Yeah, right. I've got better things to do..." when the scientist is setting them up in a maze, or whatever.

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

I think cats played the researchers like people play pollsters.

EJHill
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EJHill
Jimmy Carter: I think cats played the researchers like people play pollsters. · Nov 23 at 9:57am

Didn't this come up before?


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