Diane Ellis · February 9, 2011 at 9:22pm
Office Valentine

Do you have a "work spouse," or a colleague of the opposite sex with whom you share a close emotional, but purely platonic bond?  A work spouse, says Sue Shellenbarger of the WSJ, is someone with whom "you talk about boss problems, co-worker problems, office politics, home life...and is someone you feel a little closer to than just your average co-worker." According to a survey that Shellenbarger highlights, nearly two-thirds of white-collar workers have or have had a work spouse.

So if you do have a work spouse, or even if you don't, do you think it's appropriate to honor him or her with a gift or a card on Valentine's Day, which is just around the corner?  Or is that just too weird?

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Diane Ellis

Aaron Miller

Katie O

 I feel the same way about "furry children". 

That's a pet peeve of mine as well. · Feb 9 at 4:10pm

Really?  Why?  Considering Kenneth's recent post and all of the incredibly moving comments, it's apparent that a lot of people develop incredibly strong bonds with the animals in their lives.  And animals share some characteristics of children: namely their dependence, innocence, and lavish affection.  As long as people don't treat their pets better than their human children, I don't have a problem with them simply calling them their "furry children."

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Katie O

 I feel the same way about "furry children". 

That's a pet peeve of mine as well. · Feb 9 at 4:10pm

We called our feathered and furry friends our "practice kids."


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Elizabeth Dunn

Geez, does anybody actually work at The Office anymore? And we wonder why American businesses have become less globally competitive...

Edited on February 10, 2011 at 1:40am
Kennedy Smith
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Jimmy Carter

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Is there an office where this occurs in real life?  Dear God. · Feb 9 at 1:08pm

I agree. It appears that another holiday's intent is being hijacked.  · Feb 9 at 1:12pm

Maybe people could draw names, though office spin-the-bottle is fraught with peril.  Still, for every loser, there's an equal and opposite winner.

When it really gets weird is when all the guys toss their car keys into a big ashtray and the girls pick at random.  That can create some tense moments, which is why some sticks in the mud in HR have tried to phase out that particular tradition.

Mike LaRoche
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FeliciaB

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Katie O

 I feel the same way about "furry children". 

That's a pet peeve of mine as well. · Feb 9 at 4:10pm

We called our feathered and furry friends our "practice kids." · Feb 9 at 4:25pm

If you're an arborist, does that make you a fir parent?

Jimmy Carter
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Kennedy Smith

Maybe people could draw names, though office spin-the-bottle is fraught with peril.  Still, for every loser, there's an equal and opposite winner.

When it really gets weird is when all the guys toss their car keys into a big ashtray and the girls pick at random.  That can create some tense moments, which is why some sticks in the mud in HR have tried to phase out that particular tradition. · Feb 9 at 5:07pm

What ever happened to the traditional office mistress? 

Mike LaRoche
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Jimmy Carter

Kennedy Smith

Maybe people could draw names, though office spin-the-bottle is fraught with peril.  Still, for every loser, there's an equal and opposite winner.

When it really gets weird is when all the guys toss their car keys into a big ashtray and the girls pick at random.  That can create some tense moments, which is why some sticks in the mud in HR have tried to phase out that particular tradition. · Feb 9 at 5:07pm

What ever happened to the traditional office mistress?  · Feb 9 at 5:16pm

Feminism.

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Mike LaRoche

Jimmy Carter

Kennedy Smith

Maybe people could draw names, though office spin-the-bottle is fraught with peril.  Still, for every loser, there's an equal and opposite winner.

When it really gets weird is when all the guys toss their car keys into a big ashtray and the girls pick at random.  That can create some tense moments, which is why some sticks in the mud in HR have tried to phase out that particular tradition. · Feb 9 at 5:07pm

What ever happened to the traditional office mistress?  · Feb 9 at 5:16pm

Feminism. · Feb 9 at 5:18pm

You see?  I've said elsewhere and often that feminism is not entirely bad and unjustified.  

It had its valid claims.

Not completely sure that "office spin the bottle" is the answer, though.  I like spouses working together--like on the homestead or in the shoe shop.

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Kennedy Smith

Maybe people could draw names, though office spin-the-bottle is fraught with peril.  Still, for every loser, there's an equal and opposite winner.

When it really gets weird is when all the guys toss their car keys into a big ashtray and the girls pick at random.  That can create some tense moments, which is why some sticks in the mud in HR have tried to phase out that particular tradition. · Feb 9 at 5:07pm

What ever happened to the traditional office mistress?  · Feb 9 at 5:16pm

I think Don Draper has taken them all.

Katie O
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Katie O

Mike! I have a militantly pro-choice feminist cousin who calls her houseplants her "children". It's a slippery slope people!

Diane, please don't get me wrong. I have an amazing Golden Retriever. Not only is he smart and obedient, but brave, joyful, and totally guileless in his affections. I don't know how to adequately put into words my feelings for him. He has been my comforter, protector and truest friend for ten years. But, he is not one of my children. Just as my children are not dogs. Thanks for linking to Kenneth's post. I missed that one. It's a very moving thread.

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Michael Tee

I can't think of any reason why not a person would treat their dog better than their children.

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Mike LaRoche

Jimmy Carter

Kennedy Smith

Maybe people could draw names, though office spin-the-bottle is fraught with peril.  Still, for every loser, there's an equal and opposite winner.

When it really gets weird is when all the guys toss their car keys into a big ashtray and the girls pick at random.  That can create some tense moments, which is why some sticks in the mud in HR have tried to phase out that particular tradition. · Feb 9 at 5:07pm

What ever happened to the traditional office mistress?  · Feb 9 at 5:16pm

Feminism. · Feb 9 at 5:18pm

Punitive damages.

Aaron Miller
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FeliciaB

We called our feathered and furry friends our "practice kids."

I'm part of a generation that treats the choice to have or not have kids like a choice between buying a coupe or a sedan. Some people I've known seem to believe pets are truly substitutes.

"Practice kids" are not a problem. The countless ways people willfully avoid reality are the problem... "furry children" among them.

Though I don't currently have a pet, my family had at least a dozen as I was growing up... of almost as many species. I have nothing against furballs.

Incidentally, active pets (as opposed to reptiles, birds in cages, rocks or gizmos, etc) are a great way to teach kids responsibility. The needier, the better.

Now, to get this thread back on track, I'm going to go give that lizard outside a valentine.

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Duane Oyen: ....All right, Reusser, behave yourself.  Take that stuff back to Vickie's Secret, and tell your wife she needs to shop for herself. · Feb 9 at 3:30pm

Must have me confused with someone else. (And yet, if true--I mean hypothetically--it would be a sign of a healthy marriage, right? I mean, if one were to purchase such things for one's wife, that could, if handled properly, be OK? Right? I mean, am I wrong? Hypothetically, I mean.)

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Aaron Miller

Scott, as Hallmark says, "Valentine's Day is not for saying 'I love you'. It's for saying 'I love us'." Those..um.. Secret presents are definitely about "us", right? So they must be excellent Valentine gifts.

I mean, Hallmark would never lie!

There's nothing like a gift for yourself under the guise of a gift for someone else.

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Scott Reusser

Duane Oyen: ....All right, Reusser, behave yourself.  Take that stuff back to Vickie's Secret, and tell your wife she needs to shop for herself. · Feb 9 at 3:30pm

Must have me confused with someone else. (And yet, if true--I mean hypothetically--it would be a sign of a healthy marriage, right? I mean, if one were to purchase such things for one's wife, that could, if handled properly, be OK? Right? I mean, am I wrong? Hypothetically, I mean.) · Feb 9 at 8:03pm

Well, hypothetically speaking, I strongly favor married romance.  But when, up above, Valentines Day was limited to kids and the unmarried, I knew that you would be on the wrong side of the law.

Personally, I am fine as a lawbreaker.  I think I'll go upstairs now.

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Yes. I have had many "work spouses" during my office career. I have never heard this term but I think it is an fairly accurate word choice. In the old days I was among many others who spent more waking hours at work than home. In my case it seemed only equals or superiors (is this too hierarchical) fell into this relationship. The common element was the female helping to remind me to eat my vegetables and iron a shirt once in awhile. "work mothers?"

A valentines greeting is not appropriate. One year I did send flowers (to everyone) and I still feel foolish to this day. 

Melanie Graham

I think a package of colorful accordion Post-It Notes is far more appropriate.

Matthew K. Tabor
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Matthew K. Tabor

Bill Buckley would've given Nancy Reagan a card and flowers on Valentine's Day - and he would've addressed the note to "Cherie."

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Duane Oyen

Scott Reusser

Duane Oyen: ....All right, Reusser, behave yourself.  Take that stuff back to Vickie's Secret, and tell your wife she needs to shop for herself. · Feb 9 at 3:30pm

Must have me confused with someone else. (And yet, if true--I mean hypothetically--it would be a sign of a healthy marriage, right? I mean, if one were to purchase such things for one's wife, that could, if handled properly, be OK? Right? I mean, am I wrong? Hypothetically, I mean.) · Feb 9 at 8:03pm

Well, hypothetically speaking, I strongly favor married romance.  But when, up above, Valentines Day was limited to kids and the unmarried, I knew that you would be on the wrong side of the law.

Personally, I am fine as a lawbreaker.  I think I'll go upstairs now. · Feb 9 at 8:49pm

Duane, you complete me; you're my soul mate; it's like you know me as no other man has ever known me. Happy Valentine's day.


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