This week on Uncommon Knowledge, the first of our interviews recorded on the National Review post-election cruise. This week, AEI scholar and National Review Online founding editor Jonah Goldberg and National Review's editor-at-large John O'Sullivan on the election and the GOP's future.

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The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

You would post it right when I'm heading back out on a job...

raycon and lindacon
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raycon and lindacon

If you are as frustrated as I am about the three refresh cycles that each reset the player to the start point, click on the address bar at the top so you get the direct YouTube version without interruptions.

raycon and lindacon
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raycon and lindacon

John O'Sullivan spoke the oft repeated phrase that soon other countries will realize we are going broke and stop lending money to the US.  They already realize it. 

Since at least 2010 the Federal Reserve has been purchasing 75-80% of the US deficit.  That is, printing money.

America is more like the Weimar Republic than it is like Greece.

Blue Yeti
raycon and lindacon: If you are as frustrated as I am about the three refresh cycles that each reset the player to the start point, click on the address bar at the top so you get the direct YouTube version without interruptions. · 12 minutes ago

Good point. I'll see if we can find a work around for that.

PJS
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PJS

What?!  No audio-only?  I like to have Peter and his guests on my iPod.  Or did I miss it?

No Caesar
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No Caesar
PJS: What?!  No audio-only?  I like to have Peter and his guests on my iPod.  Or did I miss it? · 2 minutes ago

You can get the audio only version from the iTunes store for free.

Edited on December 7, 2012 at 12:05am
Peter Robinson

raycon and lindacon: John O'Sullivan spoke the oft repeated phrase that soon other countries will realize we are going broke and stop lending money to the US.  They already realize it. 

Since at least 2010 the Federal Reserve has been purchasing 75-80% of the US deficit.  That is, printing money.

America is more like the Weimar Republic than it is like Greece. · 2 hours ago

Good point, Ray- and Lindacon.  Dispiriting, but good.

Scott Reusser
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Peter Robinson

raycon and lindacon: John O'Sullivan spoke the oft repeated phrase that soon other countries will realize we are going broke and stop lending money to the US.  They already realize it. 

Since at least 2010 the Federal Reserve has been purchasing 75-80% of the US deficit.  That is, printing money.

America is more like the Weimar Republic than it is like Greece. · 2 hours ago

Good point, Ray- and Lindacon.  Dispiriting, but good. · 2 hours ago

Except that the remaining percentage is still being purchased at very low rates, so we retain our least-bad-bet status worldwide, amazingly enough.

 We are, as John Podhoretz said in his "case for optimism", the one-eyed king in the land of the blind. (And our plan is to gouge our remaining eye.) 

Grendel
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Grendel

Nevermind Irish and Blacks. Look at what government dependence has done for the Indians.

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PJS
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PJS

No Caesar

PJS: What?!  No audio-only?  I like to have Peter and his guests on my iPod.  Or did I miss it? · 2 minutes ago

You can get the audio only version from the iTunes store for free. · 19 hours ago

Edited 18 hours ago

Odd, it did not come up in my iTunes (I am subscribed).  When I downloaded it, it created another Uncommon Knowledge file in my podcast list.  That makes, like, four  now.

John Russell
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John Russell

I enjoyed this Uncommon Knowledge very much. One question, though.  On at least four occasions toward the end John O'Sullivan used a phrase  that sounded like "Chaos and earl night."  What would be the correct transcription of the syllable before "night"? Am I the only one who couldn't understand what he said?  

HoosierDaddy
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HoosierDaddy

good question

Stephen Bishop
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Stephen Bishop

I couldn't catch it too.

John Russell: "Chaos and earl night." 
Stephen Bishop
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Stephen Bishop

John O'Sullivan talked about the melting pot and how Americans had absorbed immigrants into being Americans and that it would happen again. I'm not so sure.

I feel that the web and the internet culture is quite capable of keeping minorities as such for a very long time. So if you do want to absorb immigrants into american society make sure that the immigrants are culturally close in the first place.

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Dan
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Dan

Stephen Bishop: I couldn't catch it too. · 55 minutes ago

John Russell: "Chaos and earl night."    

I think it's supposed to be "chaos and all night".

Terry
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Terry

Dan

Stephen Bishop: I couldn't catch it too. · 55 minutes ago

John Russell: "Chaos and earl night."    

I think it's supposed to be "chaos and all night". · 23 hours ago

I agree.  I've heard what he's describing as "chaos and eternal night" so I took him to be saying "chaos and all night."  FWIW, I think he's correct.

Stephen Bishop
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Stephen Bishop

Gee these limeys need to learn how to enunciate.

John Russell
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John Russell

Update to Comment number 11 (December 9, 2012, 1:54 AM.)  In re what I heard as "Chaos and earl night," I checked the index of Bartlett's Familiar Quotations under "Chaos."  One entry is for "Chaos and Old Night"---part of the longer phrase "Reign of Chaos and Old Night." The source is Book I, line 543 of Paradise Lost.  At that point in Milton's poem, Satan has lead his rebellion of the angels and been expelled from Heaven, all prior to the creation of the world. God has not yet yet said, "Let there be light."  The absence of light in the world as it then existed thus furnishes one interpretation of "Old Night."

John Russell
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John Russell

(Continuation of the last post):  One interpretation of the syllable that sounds to me like "earl" in "earl night" is "Ol" as in "Ol' Reliable." I presume that man as literate as John O'Sullivan would not use the phrase "Chaos and Ol' Night"  four times unless it were part of the English canon.  Paradise Lost qualifies.  I therefore propose "Chaos and Ol' Night" as the proper transcription of what I heard as "Chaos and earl night."

John Russell
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John Russell

Terry, I am favorably disposed to the hypothesis that "earl" is a spoken version of "eternal."  There is ample precedent in English for the spoken version of a word to have fewer syllables than the written version (e.g  Gloucester or Worcestershire).

Terry

Dan

Stephen Bishop: I couldn't catch it too. · 55 minutes ago

John Russell: "Chaos and earl night."    

I think it's supposed to be "chaos and all night". · 23 hours ago

I agree.  I've heard what he's describing as "chaos and eternal night" so I took him to be saying "chaos and all night."  FWIW, I think he's correct. · 9 hours ago


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