Writing in yesterday's New York Times, Harvard's Laurence Tribe offers an impressive defense of Obamacare's constitutionality.  Impressive, I mean, coming from a guy who has written entire books about how the Constitution's text is irrelevant.

But as a glimpse of the Left's evolving spin on Obamacare, it's a useful piece. First of all, Tribe continues the theme popularized by Michigan Judge Steeh that the New Deal cases on the Commerce Clause means that federal power extends not just to economic "activity" but to "economic decisions," including the decision not to purchase things.  The notion that government coercion to purchase a particular type of insurance might implicate "personal liberty" is, says Tribe, a "confused assertion." 

But the most startling thing about the article is the Tribe's claim that conservative jurists should refrain from: smuggl[ing] into the commerce clause an unenumerated federal “right” to opt out of the social contract.   Get it? If SCOTUS votes to overturn Obamacare, they're playing fast-and-loose with the Constitution!  They're just making up a new right! 

I'm no ConLaw professor, but even I know that Congress has no general power to enforce the "social contract."  And if Congress lacks the power to impose the individual mandate, then the Court has no need to invent a right.  The point that is lost on Tribe, and perhaps the entire Harvard faculty, is that the burden is on the federal government to justify its use of power -- not on the People to find some "right" to resist the federal power. 

How to drive this message home?  Plaster Cambridge Mass. with billboards featuring the text of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments?

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Stuart Creque
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Stuart Creque

 I am unfamiliar with the concept of "enumerated rights" in the Constitution.  I thought the Constitution had "enumerated powers" that limit the ability of the Federal government to interfere with the personal liberty of citizens.  Is Tribe asserting that all rights not enumerated by the Constitution or the various State Constitutions don't exist?

Mel Foil
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etoiledunord

Call me stupid, Mr. Tribe, for behaving in a way that you think is socially irrational, but as an American, I have a right to be "stupid" as long as it does no damage to others. Take skydiving. You may think it's an irrational and unnecessary sport, but if I, and my poorly-packed parachute, don't land on you (or your gazebo) at 200 miles an hour, it's none of your business.

Dave Carter

Is it the mission of all law schools to give sophistry a bad name, or only ivy league schools?

Chris Bogdan
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Chris Bogdan

Behold the president's next judicial nominee...


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liberal jim

I think O-care is ill-conceived, unconstitutional, as written and dangerous.  However, if I understand it correctly it mandates that everyone get insurance and fines anyone who does not $600.  It imposes no criminal or other civil penalties on people not obtaining insurance.  If instead the bill had taxed everyone $600 and them issued a rebate to everyone who obtained insurance it would have the same effect and would not have the constitutional problems.  This would make the bill only ill-conceived and dangerous.    A central government that has been allowed to concentrate power to the extent Washington has will not let a mere constitution get in its way.  Declaring the law unconstitutional may temporally plug a hole in the dyke.  It will however not prevent the dyke from eventually collapsing.  Only a return to federalist principles will do that.

Adam Freedman
Chris Bogdan: Behold the president's next judicial nominee... · Feb 8 at 12:17pm

That was a possibility once upon a time, until Tribe's letter to Obama re: Sotomayor was leaked, as I discussed here.  His letter managed to trash three SCOTUS justices: Sotomayor (an intellectually inferior "bully"), Kennedy (open to manipulation), and Breyer (so dim that he can't manipulate Kennedy). 

Not even Obama would nominate Tribe.

Adam Freedman
liberal jim: If instead the bill had taxed everyone $600 and them issued a rebate to everyone who obtained insurance it would have the same effect and would not have the constitutional problems. 

Not sure I agree with that.  What sort of tax would that have been?  It wouldn't count as an excise tax (which must be uniform).  It would seem to be a "direct tax," but then it would have to be apportioned based on population.  I don't see how the Federal Govt can constitutionally levy a uniform "health care tax" even if it were subject to rebates.

Adam Freedman
Dave Carter: Is it the mission of all law schools to give sophistry a bad name, or only ivy league schools? · Feb 8 at 12:07pm

All law schools, I'm afraid. 

raycon
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raycon
Adam Freedman:  How to drive this message home?  Plaster Cambridge Mass. with billboards featuring the text of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments? ·

Don't the law schools issue special glasses that filter out such undesirable messages???

Stuart Creque
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Stuart Creque

raycon

Adam Freedman:  How to drive this message home?  Plaster Cambridge Mass. with billboards featuring the text of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments? ·

Don't the law schools issue special glasses that filter out such undesirable messages??? · Feb 8 at 2:23pm

No, they just select students who've never worn special glasses like these.

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy
Dave Carter: Is it the mission of all law schools to give sophistry a bad name, or only ivy league schools? · Feb 8 at 12:07pm

Hold on. I was unaware of any places where sophistry had a good name.

ManBearPig
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Ryan Gaines

 Why do we indulge liberal BS? Insurance isn't even really a product. The product is health care, and insurance is a wager.

The fact that we consider insurance a solution in the realm of health care should annoy everyone. The problem with "health care" is "health insurance". The distinction between the two needs to be obvious and it needs to be constant. The reason the health care system is collapsing is that we are an insurance centric system... oh, and HIPPA.

Look at Mass., it's broken, and it's because everyone got "insurance" and they flooded the system demanding "care". The former cannot match the latter $ for $.

Stuart Creque
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Stuart Creque

Misthiocracy

Dave Carter: Is it the mission of all law schools to give sophistry a bad name, or only ivy league schools? · Feb 8 at 12:07pm

Hold on. I was unaware of any places where sophistry had a good name. · Feb 8 at 2:41pm

Not The Daily Dish, that's for darn sure.

Michael Labeit
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Michael Labeit

I'm been done with constitutional law. The government already makes laws that abridge freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and laws that "respect" an establishment of religion. And this only concerns the 1st Amendment. The 2nd Amendment is equally disregarded in many places. And the 9th and 10th Amendments may as well be airbrushed.

AmishDude
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AmishDude
Adam Freedman: ...I'm no ConLaw professor, ...

Well, from what I've seen over the years, it may be because your IQ is too high.

The Constitution ain't long, it ain't complicated and it's in English.

I think we can all figure it out.

AmishDude
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AmishDude
Michael Labeit: I'm been done with constitutional law. The government already makes laws that abridge freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and laws that "respect" an establishment of religion. And this only concerns the 1st Amendment. The 2nd Amendment is equally disregarded in many places. And the 9th and 10th Amendments may as well be airbrushed. · Feb 8 at 4:38pm

But have you ever had to quarter soldiers?  Well you can thank Laurence Tribe for that, as I'm sure he'll tell you.

AmishDude
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AmishDude

Adam Freedman

Chris Bogdan: Behold the president's next judicial nominee... · Feb 8 at 12:17pm

That was a possibility once upon a time, until Tribe's letter to Obama re: Sotomayor was leaked, as I discussed here.  His letter managed to trash three SCOTUS justices: Sotomayor (an intellectually inferior "bully"), Kennedy (open to manipulation), and Breyer (so dim that he can't manipulate Kennedy). 

Not even Obama would nominate Tribe. · Feb 8 at 2:04pm

Damn.  Three for three.  I wouldn't have expected as much from Tribe.

I really think Breyer is the stupidest person ever to sit on the bench.  I saw him in a "debate" with Scalia and Scalia was incisive and brilliant but I was so struck at how idiotic Breyer was and how smug he was about it.

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy

AmishDude

Michael Labeit: The 2nd Amendment is equally disregarded in many places. And the 9th and 10th Amendments may as well be airbrushed. · Feb 8 at 4:38pm

But have you ever had to quarter soldiers?  Well you can thank Laurence Tribe for that, as I'm sure he'll tell you. · Feb 8 at 4:54pm

Funny you should mention that:

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