Blue Yeti · February 4, 2012 at 2:45am
Iron Lady

It's been so long since the last Young Guns podcast, we considered changing the name to the Middle Aged Guns. Nonetheless, they're back, this week to kick around presidential politics, the appeal of Ron Paul, the Murray quiz, Game Change, Super Bowl picks, and a visit from the Iron Lady, courtesy of our own Diane Ellis. 

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All bow to EJHill for the illustration. 

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flownover
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flownover

E Yeah Hill !

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter
flownover: E Yeah Hill ! · 0 minutes ago

Boy, You ain't kidding.

Susan in Seattle
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Susan in Seattle

EJHill:

As it has been posited before, you are a genius!  (Diane's face is so much more pleasing than Meryl Streep's; I wonder though, how Diane would feel about the hair.)

Humza Ahmad
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Humza Ahmad

Loving the do, Diane. We don't get the latest hairstyles here in NY like you guys do in the Bay Area.

Casey
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Casey

Diane, will you be letting Claire smell your purse?

EJHill
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EJHill

Meghan mentioned the "Midwest" and "lifestyle" in the same sentence... Come and visit us in flyover country!

Clyne
Edited on February 4, 2012 at 6:55am
Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

That lady's not for turning.

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

EJHill: Meghan mentioned the "Midwest" and "lifestyle" in the same sentence... Come and visit us in flyover country! · 8 hours ago

Edited 8 hours ago

I think she needs a budweiser in one hand and some type of impact weapon in the other.

flownover
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flownover

Pseudo Here in flyover country, as is being so colorfully batted about, we use Oakeshott as an impact weapon and we spurn that branch office of a Belgian beer conglomerate and turn to the rough pleasures of a bullshot this early on a Saturday morning. "We prefer the familiar to the unknown,  the tried to the untried, fact to mystery, the actual to the possible, the limited to the unbounded, the near to the distant, the sufficient to the superabundant, the convenient to the perfect, present laughter to utopian bliss."

Edited on February 4, 2012 at 5:13pm
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PJS
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PJS

Eeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!

Duane Oyen
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Duane Oyen

1) I do continue my (innocuous, platonic) crush on Meghan.  Intellect and football, works for the rational and sensible Tevi Troy.... sort of a young Condi Rice type.

2) All of my lefty FB friends who are now Ron Paul enthusiasts essentially like the idea of legalizing drugs and his military isolationism.  They are (temporarily) opposed to Obama's connections with Wall Street and his quiet and discreet embrace of the PATRIOT Act principles.  I detect virtually no sudden convictions about small government nor freedom- in fact they say "In spite of his positions on taxes for the rich and social spending programs.....".

But maybe my sample is skewed.

Troy Senik, Ed.

One minor correction, Duane. Meghan actually works for Yuval Levin. I think you'll agree that we can keep "rational" and "sensible" exactly where they are in that sentence.

Duane Oyen: 1) I do continue my (innocuous, platonic) crush on Meghan.  Intellect and football, works for the rational and sensible Tevi Troy.... sort of a young Condi Rice type.
Grendel
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Grendel

Since you brought it up, oh please do learn to modulate your voices.  The nasal, creaky, tight-throated quacking of young women today is bad enough live, but is completely unsuited for electronic transmission, from phone to podcast.  We are almost back in Jean Hagen territory.

Diane Ellis
Grendel: Since you brought it up, oh please do learn to modulate your voices. 

I'll haul out the East German diver voice more often then.  Or I can try out Buffalo Bill next time.

Duane Oyen
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Duane Oyen

Troy Senik, Ed.: One minor correction, Duane. Meghan actually works for Yuval Levin. I think you'll agree that we can keep "rational" and "sensible" exactly where they are in that sentence. · 9 hours ago

Duane Oyen: 1) I do continue my (innocuous, platonic) crush on Meghan.  Intellect and football, works for the rational and sensible Tevi Troy.... sort of a young Condi Rice type.

I'm having a bad week for mixing up related entities (er, like Nashville universities)- I read both, and agree about the modifiers.  Note that both guys have "v" in the first name.  I plead excessive similarity rather than onset of senility.  (Did Tevi Troy ever write anything for National Affairs?)

You'll need better evidence to prove the early senility.

Chris Campion
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Chris Campion

Speaking of Ron Paul (and thanks for the podcast, it's just about the perfect length for a run, or it was tonight), I'm a wee bit older than the "youngish" guns, at 44.  I have a friend at work who just turned 30, and he's been a big Paul fanatic ever since Paul threw his hat in the ring.  I just don't see it with Paul, and as was discussed on the podcast, the flavor of political philosophy he brings to a House is a good thing, but a really lousy thing in a presidential candidate.  He seems to be half-right on a lot of issues, but the half that's wrong is the really frightening part.  And what seems to appeal to the 30 year old is the one or two issues (like the Fed) that you can really get into conspiracy territory with, or at least become really angry with, if you don't pull back and look at the larger picture.  I hate to say this, but I think the word is "perspective", and most of the Ronulans lack this trait in a Way That Is Large.

Chris Campion
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Chris Campion

(cont):

The Paul supporters also make me a bit uncomfortable because I see myself as a younger man, being just like them, frustrated and angry about where the country's headed.  It's only gotten worse since I was 30; in fact, the rate of catastrophic spending has only accelerated. 

But other, more rational Republican leaders have addressed the spending issue, the budgets, and the insane level of borrowing that's occurring in the current administration - and the fact that the Senate can't be bothered to pass a budget for 1,000 days.  When I think of those things, and the condescension from Pelosi when Obamacare was being rammed down our throats, the younger, more angry man seemed to live not so far away, after all.

So maybe I've got it backwards, but that still doesn't make Ron Paul a viable presidential candidate.  Ever.

Duane Oyen
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Duane Oyen
Chris Campion: Speaking of Ron Paul (and thanks for the podcast, it's just about the perfect length for a run, or it was tonight), I'm a wee bit older than the "youngish" guns, at 44. ....

You appear to be another one of us who listens to mind-engaging talk instead of music while running.  I tried music once about 25 years ago, and every song changed my gait and pace.


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